Suns Pursuing Josh Smith?

[PhxGametime]

Rudy Gay, Josh Smith, and Danny Granger are the SF's I've been interested in. Josh Smith being a FA though, it'd depend on what the Hawks wanted back... Rudy: originally with the Grizzlies needing to clear Luxury Tax, would've probably been the cheapest (Trade package) available??

With the Draft being loaded on SG's - I've been leaning towards Small Forward. Andre Iguodala and Nicolas Batum if available (doubt it) were other options but I'm not exactly an expert with Trade Proposals heh.

I'd be ecstatic if the Suns could keep Goran Dragic and Marcin Gortat, and the Suns own '13 Pick to go along with a SF but I'm not sure what'd it would take...

 

[Folster]

John Gambadoro ‏@Gambo620 @AlexKennedyNBA @ryguyaz I triple checked it, Suns have NO interest in Josh Smith. And have never even had a conversation with ATL about him
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Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA @RyGuyAZ @Gambo620 I stand by what I wrote. I wouldn't have written the article if I didn't have multiple sources saying the same thing.
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John Gambadoro ‏@Gambo620 The stories about the Suns being interested in Josh Smith are ridiculous, there is zero interest there -ZERO!

 

[SunsTzu]

When it comes to the Suns I'd trust Gambo more, so his tweets are reassuring.

 

[cly2tw]

No Josh Smith please! I'd rather have Milsap for the same price.

 

[Phrazbit]

Not really. Without looking it up, I'd say they will have $17-18M to work with next summer even without buying Brown out. If they buy him out, they will have a bit over $20M to work with. That's one max deal Trading Gortat and someone else for the 2nd max contract is feasible.

Dwight and Smith wouldn't be enough to win anything anyway, and there really aren't any other great FAs available next summer, but having available cap space to work with isn't an issue.

I agree that Dwight and Smith wouldnt be enough to win anything, but its really hard to find the math for that kind of cap space.

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/phoenix.htm

Childress' contract is figured into the bottom total, so subtract that in your head... but then add in the salaries for 2-3 1st round picks, and you're basically back at the same number. So we are looking at 6-7 million in space. Buying out Brown only saves 1.7 (half his salary next year is guaranteed). If we trade Gortat and take back no guaranteed money that puts us into a possession to offer one max, or at least close to max, contract. To make room for a 2nd max or anything close to it would require some very creative trades.

This is why I (and others) ranted last year about how colossally stupid the Suns moves to assemble role players on multi-year deals were. 3 million here, 6 million there... it does not seem like much individually but add them all together and it cripples you.

 

[slinslin]

Rudy Gay, Josh Smith, and Danny Granger are the SF's I've been interested in. Josh Smith being a FA though, it'd depend on what the Hawks wanted back... Rudy: originally with the Grizzlies needing to clear Luxury Tax, would've probably been the cheapest (Trade package) available??

With the Draft being loaded on SG's - I've been leaning towards Small Forward. Andre Iguodala and Nicolas Batum if available (doubt it) were other options but I'm not exactly an expert with Trade Proposals heh.

I'd be ecstatic if the Suns could keep Goran Dragic and Marcin Gortat, and the Suns own '13 Pick to go along with a SF but I'm not sure what'd it would take...

Josh Smith is not a SF and will never be one.

Danny Granger hasn't played well in years and is 30.

 

[PhxGametime]

Josh Smith is not a SF and will never be one.

Danny Granger hasn't played well in years and is 30.

Josh Smith would need to play SF until Scola if/was Traded away in offseason... though if the Suns Traded Beasley and Morris (for Smith, as part of package) Scola could easily come off bench. I knew I should've checked Granger's age lol, he's been hurt so really kind of threw him in list, without coming up with ideas on Trade.

I don't see a lot of other options at SF - I really like Ross and DeRozan but IMO, are SG's. I think of Tyreke Evans as SG, Evan Turner would unlikely be available. Deng/Wallace are older... Ilyasova is better at PF.

Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, Chris Singleton, Terrence Jones, Gordon Hayward, and Harrison Barnes are on Rookie deals and those players would likely be available as package deal (for star player) ...

It's just my thinking the Suns have Dragic and Gortat - as solid, cheap 3rd-4rd options that can guard their respective positions. With Suns own 1st Rounder, P.J. Tucker, Lakers pick - being the next best assests, adding to that collection would be how I'd go... though I'd understand if no Team is interested in 6.4 cap space, Jared Dudley, Michael Beasley, Markieff Morris, Shannon Brown, Kendall Marshall, expirings, or Grizzlies 1st/Suns Lottery protected '14.

 

[slinslin]

Otto Porter is a good SF prospect as are some others.

Josh Smith can't play SF. Josh Smith shoots below 30% from 3 and 50% from the line he also doesn't have the perimeter defense skills anymore to guard other SFs.

We still have Michael Beasley as our long term SF project too.

 

[JCSunsfan]

If Gambo says they have no interest, I tend to believe him.

 

[HooverDam]

If Gambo says they have no interest, I tend to believe him.

Yep, he's an idiot, full of himself and impossible to listen to, but he does seem to have close ties w/ Sarver and other people in the front office, so unless they're just feeding him lies, he's likely right.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

On ESPN Rumors Nick Borges reported this.

UPDATE: Regarding the Suns reported interest in Josh Smith, John Gambadoro of 620 KTAR tweets: "The stories about the Suns being interested in Josh Smith are ridiculous, there is zero interest there -ZERO! ... I triple checked it, Suns have NO interest in Josh Smith. And have never even had a conversation with ATL about him."

 

[95pro]

On ESPN Rumors Nick Borges reported this.

UPDATE: Regarding the Suns reported interest in Josh Smith, John Gambadoro of 620 KTAR tweets: "The stories about the Suns being interested in Josh Smith are ridiculous, there is zero interest there -ZERO! ... I triple checked it, Suns have NO interest in Josh Smith. And have never even had a conversation with ATL about him."

welcome to post #27

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

welcome to post #27

That's cool. Didn't feel like reading the whole thread, but thx.

 

[leclerc]

Please no, what's the point? Tank and get some starters in the draft. Then we can look into signing 30 somethings. We need to get a young core in here before we can entice established players to come here. And in the draft we need to just get the best talent available. Don't think about position at all. That includes Dragic. He can play at the two if needed. Or be the 6th man. Or we could trade him again, hopefully for something better than a water bug.

Update: Yeah, they're not interested now, but people have brought up his name many times before, and I still don't want him. Not then and certainly not now.

 

[sunsfan88]

The best thing the Suns could do right now is stand PAT. We FINALLY have draft picks and decent cap space....lets not ruin that.

 

[HooverDam]

The best thing the Suns could do right now is stand PAT. We FINALLY have draft picks and decent cap space....lets not ruin that.

I halfway agree. I agree with not giving up capspace and draft picks, but not about standing pat. If I were the Suns front office I'd be looking to move Gortat and Dudley for picks and young players/expirings. Once I could, I'd ship Scola to a contender for cap relief/an expiring, et cetera.

 

[JS22]

Interesting Stat. Only 2 players in the league average at least 17/8/4...

Josh Smith and

Spoiler

Lebron James

Still would be iffy on a trade unless it was something ridiculous like Beasley + Frye. Which would never happen.

 

[JCSunsfan]

The issue is the upcoming free agency. There is no point in getting "home team" advantage. He is not a supermax player. So, unless there are assurances that he would resign here at a contract that is reasonable, it would be better to go after him in free agency. Certainly Babby is aware of that.

 

[AzStevenCal]

The issue is the upcoming free agency. There is no point in getting "home team" advantage. He is not a supermax player. So, unless there are assurances that he would resign here at a contract that is reasonable, it would be better to go after him in free agency. Certainly Babby is aware of that.

I'm sure he is but I'm also sure he's aware that money is probably the only thing we have to offer. I'd rather we get worse, not try to get marginally better but I suspect their need to try and sell tickets will overrule what common sense might suggest is the better approach.

Steve

 

[JCSunsfan]

What will sell tickets is promising young players. I remember the night and day turnaround that happened when the Suns traded Larry Nance for KJ, Corbin, West, and the pick that turned out to be Dan Majerle. We need that kind of deal.

 

[devilalum]

What will sell tickets is promising young players. I remember the night and day turnaround that happened when the Suns traded Larry Nance for KJ, Corbin, West, and the pick that turned out to be Dan Majerle. We need that kind of deal.

If we only had a player half as good as Larry Nance it might be possible.

 

[AzStevenCal]

If we only had a player half as good as Larry Nance it might be possible.

Piece of cake then. We have a couple players that are half as tall as Larry Nance. Oh wait, you said half as good. I'll have to think about that for awhile.

Steve