Suns trade for Beal

[Yuma]

I remember Nash supposedly insisted the Suns get back draft picks from LA to agree to trade to Lakers. He showed real loyalty to us.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Ayton has one until July by rule on his resigning.

“By rule” - that’s not a contractual clause without duration.

 

[Mainstreet]

The Suns are essentially the test case for the new CBA 2nd tax apron, which I believe stood at about $179.5 million.

Other teams are watching.

 

[Yuma]

“By rule” - that’s not a contractual clause without duration.

True, but it's still a no trade clause.

 

[Zobaczcie suki]

Also, she may not understand the Suns blew right past the financial constraints and didn't even pause at the stop sign.

Reminds me of the Vanishing Point movie from the 70's, with Ishba playing the role of Kawolski...

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[Proximo]

Also, she may not understand the Suns blew right past the financial constraints and didn't even pause at the stop sign.

Yeah, that's all well and good for this year - but it sounds like our ability to do almost anything with a roster is over starting July 1st.

If you are over the 2nd apron as I understand it - you can not do multiplayer for 1 player trades. You can't take back a penny more in contract value in a one for one deal. You can't sign buyout players. You get no exceptions of any kind.
So if we don't trade Ayton before July 1st, we can only take back one player who makes less money than him.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I remember Nash supposedly insisted the Suns get back draft picks from LA to agree to trade to Lakers. He showed real loyalty to us.

In many aspects nash was a real anomaly.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

True, but it's still a no trade clause.

Technically it’s not because it’s not likely a “clause.” It’s not likely actually anywhere in his contract. It’s a league rule.

 

[Proximo]

The Suns are essentially the test case for the new CBA 2nd tax apron, which I believe stood at about $179.5 million.

Other teams are watching.

People say the cap is going to go up anyway this probably won't be a big deal in a couple years - yeah but will the cap go up more than the escalators in Beal, KD, and Booker's contracts? I don't think so. We are very likely to be stuck over the 2nd apron for the next 3 years.

 

[Mainstreet]

Reminds me of the Vanishing Point movie from the 70's, with Ishba playing the role of Kawolski...

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Btw, anyone seen Mat Ishbia lately?

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

I don't think they realize Chris Paul was already out the door and the Suns get two players in return, one a top 30 player.

Additionally, the Suns still have Deandre Ayton. Most playoff teams only have an 8-man rotation.

Denver who just won the title had a 7-8 man rotation as well. We currently have 5-6 of the 8 on the roster (assuming Ayton stays). Just need to find a few decent free agents and we should be okay at least come playoff time.

 

[BirdGangThing]

So if we don't trade Ayton before July 1st, we can only take back one player who makes less money than him.

I think I'd be okay with that, especially if the incoming player made A LOT less money

I don't want a bunch of scrubs in a trade for Ayton - I want Ayton's contract gone so we can have some flexibility to pick and choose our incoming players

 

[Mainstreet]

Yeah, that's all well and good for this year - but it sounds like our ability to do almost anything with a roster is over starting July 1st.

If you are over the 2nd apron as I understand it - you can not do multiplayer for 1 player trades. You can't take back a penny more in contract value in a one for one deal. You can't sign buyout players. You get no exceptions of any kind.
So if we don't trade Ayton before July 1st, we can only take back one player who makes less money than him.

So it's important the Suns stock up now, say for the next 6 years or whatever.

Seriously, the Suns are already well past the sound barrier, so all we can do is watch.

They need to make friends with the NBPA for some test cases.

 

[Mainstreet]

Denver who just won the title had a 7-8 man rotation as well. We currently have 5-6 of the 8 on the roster (assuming Ayton stays). Just need to find a few decent free agents and we should be okay at least come playoff time.

Hopefully, James Jones has put more thought into how to build the roster this season.

Keeping Payne, Ayton, Landale, Saban Lee, Bazley (?) and Goodwin is already a nice start without even looking at veteran minimum players.

 

[Mainstreet]

Chris Paul on finding out about the trade.

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[ajcardfan]

I know lots of people are excited by this. But I have my doubts it works. We will see.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I know lots of people are excited by this. But I have my doubts it works. We will see.

I think everyone has doubts - that said, our options at this point were exceedingly limited. Considering these constraints, getting Beal is about the best case scenario we could have hoped for.

 

[Dback Jon]

I think everyone has doubts - that said, our options at this point were exceedingly limited. Considering these constraints, getting Beal is about the best case scenario we could have hoped for.

This

 

[Mainstreet]

I know lots of people are excited by this. But I have my doubts it works. We will see.

There are no guarantees about anything, but the Suns went shopping at the dollar store and brought home a top 30 player in Bradly Beal.

It makes one wonder what they could do if they decided to trade Deandre Ayton.

 

[SeattleCardinal]

Ric Bucher and Colin Cowherd really going at it on Cowherd's show on Fox Sports this morning. Bucher is pessimistic about the "top heavy" Suns next season, while Cowherd has a much more favorable view. Bucher says that the Suns are not a top 5 team, which seems weird to me (although I respect Bucher's knowledge).

It will be interesting to see how the Suns fill out the roster.

 

[JerkFace]

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More bodies!

 

[Mainstreet]

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More bodies!

The Suns get a 21-year-old power forward. I like it. Send more players.

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[Mainstreet]

Ric Bucher and Colin Cowherd really going at it on Cowherd's show on Fox Sports this morning. Bucher is pessimistic about the "top heavy" Suns next season, while Cowherd has a much more favorable view. Bucher says that the Suns are not a top 5 team, which seems weird to me (although I respect Bucher's knowledge).

It will be interesting to see how the Suns fill out the roster.

The Suns are already better than their playoff team last season. Did they look at the Suns roster in game 6 against the Nuggets?

 

[Mainstreet]

The Suns look to be in phase 2 of shock and awe, and the media can't handle it.

What happens when they switch to phase 3?

 

[Mainstreet]

These comments by Devin Booker in 2018 sound prophetic.

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