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We will never be a dominant team of Bridges and cam are all they will ever be. Both seemed to have plateaued.
 

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Looks like we ran out of gas tonight.

Bridges sucked all the way around tonight. His complete inability to step up without Booker sucks.
 

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I think Paul is the only one who wants to shoot right now. Maybe crowder. Everyone else looks tentative. Not shooting with confidence.
 

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We haven’t seen one strong drive from Cam Johnson this game. Why?

And where are the Bridges back cuts? It’s like we have no offense without Book.
 

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Looks like we ran out of gas tonight.

Bridges sucked all the way around tonight. His complete inability to step up without Booker sucks.
Yeah, I think this is what we got with Bridges. He is who he is going to be. He’s 25, so he’s not a super young guy.
 

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Bridges will never be anything more than a nice role player. I can see him easily becoming overrated as a defender, and while he occasionally gives you a good game on offense, he just doesn't have any consistency with his shot.
 

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Bridges and cam were good rookies. Got a little better, and definitely improved on defense. But otherwise all of their numbers have plateaued. I think this is who they will be for their careers.
 

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Bridges and cam were good rookies. Got a little better, and definitely improved on defense. But otherwise all of their numbers have plateaued. I think this is who they will be for their careers.
Disagree about Cam. I don’t think Monty has done him any favors.
 

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The assets we gave up were nothing, but the contract is an issue, yeah.

First round picks aren’t nothing, IMO. Other teams find guys who can contribute even at the end of the first round. Even on contenders.

Giving him that awful contract just compounded the matter. And yes, for anyone who wants to argue otherwise, a no dimensional player who’s also not a good defender is a bad contract at almost 10 million per no matter what the cap goes up next year because it goes up for everyone.
 

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First round picks aren’t nothing, IMO. Other teams find guys who can contribute even at the end of the first round. Even on contenders.

Giving him that awful contract just compounded the matter. And yes, for anyone who wants to argue otherwise, a no dimensional player who’s also not a good defender is a bad contract at almost 10 million per no matter what the cap goes up next year because it goes up for everyone.
Sorry a first round pick that amounts to almost a 2nd is nothing.
 
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I'm not sure why Ayton passed out.
 

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First round picks aren’t nothing, IMO. Other teams find guys who can contribute even at the end of the first round. Even on contenders.

Giving him that awful contract just compounded the matter. And yes, for anyone who wants to argue otherwise, a no dimensional player who’s also not a good defender is a bad contract at almost 10 million per no matter what the cap goes up next year because it goes up for everyone.
I can see taking a flyer on Shamet to see if he fills a role... although the role he fills was hardly the Suns' greatest need. But the huge extension before he had done literally anything here is what has me dumbfounded. James Jones outsmarting himself, it would seem... at least, so far.
 

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Sorry a first round pick that amounts to almost a 2nd is nothing.

That’s your opinion. I think it’s wrong and we’ve seen guys contribute on good teams from those spots before. Simply saying they’re nothing because you want to defend the move, doesn’t make it so.
 

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You can disagree but his numbers across almost every measure are identical across three years.
Which is why I asked about his minutes. He needs time to improve. He’s improved his defense but if he doesn’t have time to expand his game he’s not going to.
 

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That’s your opinion. I think it’s wrong and we’ve seen guys contribute on good teams from those spots before. Simply saying they’re nothing because you want to defend the move, doesn’t make it so.
We picked Jalen Smith at 10. I’m sorry, a #28 pick means next to nothing.

And let’s get something starlight before you start throwing accusations around. I supported getting a backup SG. I even supported getting Shamet. I have not supported the large extension. These are two different things.
 

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