Suns vs Lakers - The Return of the Marshall

[Phrazbit]

Complete BS all around.

Don't let the door hit ya on your way out Stern!

I dislike Stern as much as the next guy but all in all the Suns got off pretty easy there.

 

[jbeecham]

I'm late to the party here, but I wanted to share a nickname mockery that I read online...

Swaggy P ---> Saggy P-nis... because he's soft (open handed push punch).


As far as the play goes, it was a hard foul by Len and he deserved to get tossed... plays like that cause injuries way too often when someone falls wrong. Young made a punk retaliation... Suns players were coming to help him up and he jumps in their faces & shoves them. Then he moves away from the Morris Bros & throws an open handed punch at Dragic (smallest Suns guy on the court).

Marcus shoved him twice so he got a $25k fine...which is really weak (escalation I guess, but it was initially self defense)... I read that Young didn't get any additional monetary fine and will only lose $10k for his 1 game suspension so he loses less money than Len or Morris (although hurts his team more by missing the game).

 

[Catlover]

I'm late to the party here, but I wanted to share a nickname mockery that I read online...

Swaggy P ---> Saggy P-nis... because he's soft (open handed push punch).


As far as the play goes, it was a hard foul by Len and he deserved to get tossed... plays like that cause injuries way too often when someone falls wrong. Young made a punk retaliation... Suns players were coming to help him up and he jumps in their faces & shoves them. Then he moves away from the Morris Bros & throws an open handed punch at Dragic (smallest Suns guy on the court).

Marcus shoved him twice so he got a $25k fine...which is really weak (escalation I guess, but it was initially self defense)... I read that Young didn't get any additional monetary fine and will only lose $10k for his 1 game suspension so he loses less money than Len or Morris (although hurts his team more by missing the game).

If Len did it on purpose it was a cheap shot not a hard foul. It is possible his timing was off from his injury and the slight push-off from Young. But if it wasn't on accident, Swaggy P's reaction was far more justified than the foul itself or the big shove from Marcus. The league handled it correctly.

 

[sunsfan88]

Green said he was going to take care of rookie center Alex Len if the league took any action on him for his flagrant foul 2 on Wednesday.

Len said that was before he found out how much the fine was.

Len was fined $15,000 and Marcus Morris was fined $25,000. Green said he talked to Len and that Len was going to pay his own fine but Green pledged to help with Morris’ fine as a veteran move. Green and Len each make $3.5 million while Morris makes $2.1 million.

Classy move by Green.

 

[Phrazbit]

I dont mind if Len did it on purpose... because the sight of a Laker getting decked always makes me happy, however, it looked to me like he knew he had no play on the ball and just swung at Young's face.

You can almost see him reach for the block, realize he wont get there and then decide to just do a two handed swat on Young's grill. I think if it was a Suns player who got laid out like that we'd be calling for the dude to get a game or two suspension.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I dislike Stern as much as the next guy but all in all the Suns got off pretty easy there.

Really? If Nick Young had just gotten up off the floor, Len would have been charged with a flagrant 1 and it would all be over. Len got fined because of the reaction.

No biggee. I have no problem with the ejection just because I think players should be ejected for plays that end up being dangerous--even if it was in the heat of the moment and not premeditated. But the league hasn't been doing this that much. Anyway. Moving on.

 

[95pro]

Len should have been tossed as well as young. Young should get another fine for striking Dragic.

 

[Chaplin]

Young, who will lose $10,063 in salary for his one-game ban, thought the suspension was fair. Len was fined $15,000 and Suns player Marcus Morris was fined $25,000 for his involvement.

Other than missing out on the game, looks like the guy who threw the punch got off the easiest.

 

[Mainstreet]

Other than missing out on the game, looks like the guy who threw the punch got off the easiest.

This is NBA equality. I would like to see the monetary amounts explained.

 

[sunsfan88]

This is NBA equality. I would like to see the monetary amounts explained.

It will never be explained under Stern.

 

[sunsfan88]

I still wanna know why Hornacek didn't get to pick a shooter for the Lakers when Young got ejected.

Does that rule only apply in Madison Square Garden?

 

[Mainstreet]

The Suns should at least make a token effort at guarding the basket.

 

[Mainstreet]

Dragic can take over a game at times, like he is now.

 

[Mainstreet]

I always felt like Vince Carter coasted when he played for the Suns.

 

[SirStefan32]

I always felt like Vince Carter coasted when he played for the Suns.

Wrong thread?

 

[Mainstreet]

Wrong thread?

I'm not sure why. Perhaps you can explain. When Vince Carter played for the Suns in 2010-11, I felt he had more in the tank than what he gave to the Suns. His presence on the court for the Mavs is a reminder.

 

[Catlover]

I still wanna know why Hornacek didn't get to pick a shooter for the Lakers when Young got ejected.

Does that rule only apply in Madison Square Garden?

That is the rule. The opposing coach can choose any of the four players that were already in the game.

 

[Mainstreet]

Wrong thread?

I see what you mean now about it being the wrong thread as it is the Suns versus Lakers thread instead of the Suns versus Dallas.

I took a wrong turn and just kept going.

 

[SirStefan32]

I see what you mean now about it being the wrong thread as it is the Suns versus Lakers thread instead of the Suns versus Dallas.

I took a wrong turn and just kept going.

So did the Suns!

 

[slinslin]

Marshall is averaging 11ppg 9+apg and 45%FG. Not bad for a 2nd year player eh?

Funny what some confidence and opportunity can actually do for players rather than reading over and over how stupid blogs or fan message boards rip a rookie apart for nothing.

 

[BC867]

Marshall is averaging 11ppg 9+apg and 45%FG. Not bad for a 2nd year player eh?

Funny what some confidence and opportunity can actually do for players rather than reading over and over how stupid blogs or fan message boards rip a rookie apart for nothing.

Quite often it is about a player being, or not being, at the right place. A team where his shortcomings are not priority.

That is logistics. Referring to it as "stupid" or "ripping a rookie apart" or "for nothing" are dramatic, but do not solve the problem.

What was he, the Lakers fourth or fifth choice for Point Guard? The Lakers extreme needs are better off with him and the Suns are better off without him. 'Nothing personal about that. It is more about team balance.

 

[Catlover]

Marshall is averaging 11ppg 9+apg and 45%FG. Not bad for a 2nd year player eh?

Funny what some confidence and opportunity can actually do for players rather than reading over and over how stupid blogs or fan message boards rip a rookie apart for nothing.

Was someone ripping him for his passing skills? He still can't defend and even though he's shooting well from the arc he's still a below average shooter for a starting guard. Teams are leaving him wide open from distance and so far he's been making them pay but we'll see what happens when they start guarding him.

He's in the ideal situation for him. He's playing for a coach that doesn't care about defense and a team that desperately needs someone that can run an offense and pass the ball. It also helps that wins and losses are afterthoughts because so far the team appears to be worse with him than without him. They are 2 - 10 since he joined the Lakers.

 

[Errntknght]

Kendall needed an attitude adjustment and I think being traded then waived gave him just that. On one hand it was break for him to wind up with the Lakers but on the other its not going to help his career a lot to get away with not defending under D'Antoni. For one thing, I don't believe Mike has much more time in the league ahead of him.

 

[Mainstreet]

Kendall needed an attitude adjustment and I think being traded then waived gave him just that. On one hand it was break for him to wind up with the Lakers but on the other its not going to help his career a lot to get away with not defending under D'Antoni. For one thing, I don't believe Mike has much more time in the league ahead of him.

I agree. This is what Marshall needed.

 

[JustWinBaby]

Kendall needed an attitude adjustment and I think being traded then waived gave him just that. On one hand it was break for him to wind up with the Lakers but on the other its not going to help his career a lot to get away with not defending under D'Antoni. For one thing, I don't believe Mike has much more time in the league ahead of him.

Why does everyone have to take a cheap shot at D'Antoni whenever they mention his name?

If he doesn't play his bench or rookies it is because he won't play them.

If he does play them, he allows everyone not to play defense.

This is after most players under his coaching not named Melo, Gasol or Howard have enjoyed their best years while playing for him. Of course Melo is a confirmed A hole, Gasol is over the hill and Howard could not stand Kobe or LA.

All of the constant bashing of him makes absolutely no sense.

Name the player that he has ever coached that has become a defensive juggernaught under a different coach?

I expect the Lakers would be contending for a Title this year if Phil Jackson were their coach with that superlative roster they have.

If he would sit Marshall due to his poor defense whom should he play at the PG spot that is currently healthy and would make them a better team?

I got it. Every time one of his teams lose, it is his fault. When they win it is because of the great players he has.

I wish Phil Jackson would have taken the LA job and Nash would have stayed healthy. I am sure Stevie would have challenged for the defensive player of the year under Phil's coaching. That would have solidified Steve's place in history.