Suns @ Warriors 3-10-19

[Superbone]

T'will be I'm sure, for someone.

Wasn't THAT easy.

 

[Superbone]

this is the first time I've yelled at a Suns game in a LOOOOOOOOOOONG time.

I miss this feeling!

Then you didn't watch the Lakers and Bucks games. I was yelling back to back.

 

[SunnyBaller]

Sun's are 1 win away from not tying their franchises worst season win total!

 

[AzStevenCal]

Wasn't THAT easy.

You're kidding right? Piece of cake, never a doubt, hardly a contest and a few other lies.

 

[WildBB]

Wow, I got home, watched the first quarter, and almost turned the game off. Holy crap, that defense! Oubre and Johnson have changed this team. Bridges was outstanding too, and even Booker and Ayton played some good defense.
It is so bizarre watching the Suns win games with defense. Booker was a beast in the fourth until he started forcing things too. Give the ball to Johnson and run Thompson through some screens.

Don't know if Johnson is going to be the PG next year, but whoever the point guard is, he needs to be a scrappy defensive player. Same goes for every single veteran that they acquire. This defense has me excited!

It really isn't a dead art in the NBA as so many assume. They're figuring out what they need to do on a nightly basis. It opens the whole flow of the game and forces opponents to hit from 3. Much harder to do consistently when your playing from behind, there's just that much more pressure to hit.

But isn't it great to see that the Suns are an uncomfortable matchup against teams right now. All we need to do is add Houston and OKC now to the hit list.

 

[sunsfan88]

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If I was in Vegas and maybe if I was drunk enough then I would’ve put down a pretty good chunk on the Suns in this one.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Johnson defends like a mad man and takes care of the ball on offense. And for all those pg's that have gone before in the last couple years, that's all you had to do. Didn't have to take shots at the end, didn't have to score 20 a night. There are others that probably could have done what Johnson is doing, but chose not to.

 

[Hoop Head]

Yes. Not everyone who asks for rational thinking is slinslin.

I asked a question and you answered, it's that easy. I'm not seeing all these posts heaping praise on Tyler Johnson that have your panties in a bunch though. No one is talking about him being the second coming of Nash or even the PG of the future but apparently saying he's not a great shooter is too much for you to handle after a good win? Ok, that seems odd.

The reason I asked if you saw the game though is because of your comment about Johnson played no role in the Warriors shooting poorly from 3. He was crowding Steph, or whoever he was assigned to, as much as he could. What more is he or any defender supposed to do against the Warriors? So maybe any competent guard could do what he did, is that your point? Because the Suns haven't had a competent guard next to Booker since Bledsoe was dealt until they acquired Tyler. Is it too much to call him competent also? I'd say he's competent and I feel pretty comfortable I'm not alone in thinking that, even if I am I'm more than willing to debate that point if needed.

Someone has an excrement fetish.

Have you turned into BC? Can't get through a post without commenting on my user name, the one I didn't come up with. Ok, I thought you were more mature than that but whatever, my mistake.

What I objected to was the multiple posts saying things like "Johnson isn't the greatest shooter." The high of a big win isn't a license to spout nonsense.

Where are these multiple posts and what is nonsense about what was said? Is it nonsense he wasn't insulted more or that his other shortcomings weren't pointed out? You replied to A post that gave him some credit for how the team has played better with him here and you haven't even tried refuting anything that was posted. You seriously took exception to someone saying "I know he's the not the greatest shooter" and lost it because of that. Everyone knows he can't shoot, or he hasn't been able to as a Sun at least. Where is the nonsense? I'm yet to see it. Is it too much that someone made a post giving him some credit without harping on his shortcomings? I guess it is for you. No one stated he's having a Nash like impact on this team. All that I took from that post was what I've also seen, the Suns look better with Johnson on the team because they don't need to play G-Leaguers next to Booker as much anymore. Not only have the Suns been more entertaining to watch but they're also squeaking out some wins against good teams with gritty defense, that Johnson has contributed to.

This team still has a huge hole at PG, and if we're going to talk about their future, I see no advantage in glossing over that.

No one was claiming he's the answer long term or that he should start next year, if you saw that I'd like for you to point it out because I've gone over this thread and I can't find that. We are stuck with him and most everyone knows it. I think there is less a sense of urgency to get him off the roster then there was when we acquired him but I didn't see anyone claim the search is over for a PG. Talk changed quickly in this thread to signing D'Angelo Russell and last I checked I don't think anyone has ever confused him for Tyler Johnson or vice versa. I really don't know what you saw people claiming but I've gone through this thread a couple of times and unless it's from one of the 2 people I have blocked, and I highly doubt it was it either of them, then I don't see these posts talking about Tyler Johnson as the long term answer to our PG woes.

 

[Willie D]

OMG, reading this thread of like watching an episode of "Mama's House."

Look, the SunS played Gun Shot Wound, They won. (Get it? GSW). OK, I was at ISM Raceway all afternoon and didn't catch the game. But they won. Who in the F'ing F has spent the last 14 pages of this website boiling their bottoms off about that? And FWIW, I don't think a guy who goes on the internet with the handle "Poop Head" is really defecationally challenged. Maybe ask Vic Tayback to kiss yer grits.

Like earlier, it's a win against a quality team. Enjoy it for what it is. Are the SunS gonna win the NBA this year? Doubtful. Are they going to make the playoffs? Doubtful. But is a win over GSW fun to rejoice in for a few hours? YES!!!!

I think I'm gonna go drop a deuce right now.

 

[Phrazbit]

You're kidding right? Piece of cake, never a doubt, hardly a contest and a few other lies.

I was driving during the much of the 4th, when the Suns went up by like 11, I texted some of my fellow hard core Suns fans with a simple "HOLY SMOKES!", needless to say the Warriors promptly cut the lead to 3 over the next few minutes and, despite not believing in jinxes, I knew that I was going to get a lot of grief if we lost.

Furthermore, Al McCoy is still an amazing play by play announcer. The Warriors crowd is about as loud as they come and he was spewing out the play by play just as quickly as their groans and cheers were broadcasting the outcomes.

I really hope he keeps going a few more years.

 

[Russ Smith]

Cause ******** refs

The 4th quarter was reffed very poorly. There was the play where Curry getting over Ayton's screen got elbowed by Tyler Johnson without a call, the shot missed, Ayton went over the back no call, then 2 Warriors fouled Ayton on an airballed hook shot no call. It was like one makeup no call after another. There was a play where I think Oubre drove in and Green clearly fouled him without a call. I think refs get caught up in the storyline and at that point it looked like the Warriors were making one last run and were going to catch up so they stopped calling fouls.

 

[Bufalay]

The high of a big win isn't a license to spout nonsense. .

I violently disagree.

 

[Western Font]

I watched the condensed game because I figured on a Warriors rout. Wish I'd committed to the whole thing!

Tyler Johnson is a huge in-season improvement, especially replacing an equally expensive non-factor in Anderson. He is too expensive to keep specifically for the second unit, but if the Suns can't sign the right FA starter or draft a PG, I'm happy keeping him around until the right trade comes along. Q: would you rather keep Melton, Okobo, or neither?

Oubre is just...involved. I'm always aware of him on the court. I could see him being the heart of the team. Would love to see him re-signed.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I violently disagree.

I tend to avoid people that "violently disagree" but that's probably from years of living in Southern California.

 

[Mainstreet]

Fortunately it didn't really detract from the win itself as there was only 5 or 6 minutes left when it happened.

This is true but for the casual NBA observer they may think otherwise.

I think we have our answer, even an average point guard can do wonders for the Suns and greatly enhance the coaching of Kokoskov. We know how to fix the Suns. Of course a power forward needs to be added as well.

It's awesome that we do not have to worry about hiring a new coach. Perhaps the same applies to the General Manager position. It's hard to deny what James Jones has accomplished in adding Oubre and Johnson.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I watched the condensed game because I figured on a Warriors rout. Wish I'd committed to the whole thing!

Tyler Johnson is a huge in-season improvement, especially replacing an equally expensive non-factor in Anderson. He is too expensive to keep specifically for the second unit, but if the Suns can't sign the right FA starter or draft a PG, I'm happy keeping him around until the right trade comes along. Q: would you rather keep Melton, Okobo, or neither?

Oubre is just...involved. I'm always aware of him on the court. I could see him being the heart of the team. Would love to see him re-signed.

He is also too expensive to move. There is no easy way to NOT have Johnson next year except waiving and stretching him an Indone think that is going to happen.

 

[Covert Rain]

Fortunately it didn't really detract from the win itself as there was only 5 or 6 minutes left when it happened.

Five to six minutes is plenty of time for one of the most dominate players on that team and the league to takeover a game. Yes, it does detract from it but it was still a good win for a young Suns team that looks like it's gaining some confidence.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Five to six minutes is plenty of time for one of the most dominate players on that team and the league to takeover a game. Yes, it does detract from it but it was still a good win for a young Suns team that looks like it's gaining some confidence.

Agreed. Though I would argue that in those circumstances it was an accomplishment to even be in a one possession game at that point in the game.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Five to six minutes is plenty of time for one of the most dominate players on that team and the league to takeover a game. Yes, it does detract from it but it was still a good win for a young Suns team that looks like it's gaining some confidence.

Well, sure, if it detracts from your perspective, fine. It doesn't for me though. There was 6.5 minutes left to go, the score was tied but we had momentum and the ball. Durant is a great player and easily could have changed the outcome but he'd already had 30 minutes to make his mark so no excuses and nothing to detract from the performance or outcome AFAIC. And we did this on the road following a short turnaround from the Portland game the night before.

 

[Superbone]

I was driving during the much of the 4th, when the Suns went up by like 11, I texted some of my fellow hard core Suns fans with a simple "HOLY SMOKES!", needless to say the Warriors promptly cut the lead to 3 over the next few minutes and, despite not believing in jinxes, I knew that I was going to get a lot of grief if we lost.

Furthermore, Al McCoy is still an amazing play by play announcer. The Warriors crowd is about as loud as they come and he was spewing out the play by play just as quickly as their groans and cheers were broadcasting the outcomes.

I really hope he keeps going a few more years.

I wonder if this Suns run might postpone his retirement? I'd have loved to have heard him during this run.

 

[devilalum]

That team won a title without Durant. His absence for a few minutes diminishes nothing.

 

[Mainstreet]

I wonder if this Suns run might postpone his retirement? I'd have loved to have heard him during this run.

Or keep McCoy in some other capacity. This guy is a legend. He needs to remain with the Suns in some manner.

 

[Covert Rain]

Well, sure, if it detracts from your perspective, fine. It doesn't for me though. There was 6.5 minutes left to go, the score was tied but we had momentum and the ball. Durant is a great player and easily could have changed the outcome but he'd already had 30 minutes to make his mark so no excuses and nothing to detract from the performance or outcome AFAIC. And we did this on the road following a short turnaround from the Portland game the night before.

Not trying to take anything away from the Suns. However, KD has probably been their most consistent players and down the stretch he is usually one of the guys that takes it home for GS even when that team isn't hitting on all cylinders.

That would have been like remove Ayton or Booker for the last 6.5 minutes.

 

[Sunburn]

Not trying to take anything away from the Suns. However, KD has probably been their most consistent players and down the stretch he is usually one of the guys that takes it home for GS even when that team isn't hitting on all cylinders.

That would have been like remove Ayton or Booker for the last 6.5 minutes.

Not really. GS has multiple all stars to pick up the slack whereas losing one of our guys would have a more magnified impact.

 

[devilalum]

The Warriors without Durant could still win 60 games if they wanted to.