The 2018-2019 Around the NBA thread

[Ronin]

Bobby Marks‏Verified account@BobbyMarks42 3h3 hours ago
Clippers needed to trade/waive 2 players on guaranteed contracts based on the roster consisting of 16 guaranteed and the non/guaranteed of Patrick Beverley. Still need one more to shed before the start of the regular season.

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Cleveland has a $5.8M trade exception from the Kyrie Irving trade of last year to acquire Dekker without sending back a player.

 

[Chaplin]

Both Morris twins signed with Klutch Sports, because... of course.

 

[Hoop Head]

Both Morris twins signed with Klutch Sports, because... of course.

We really got out from their contracts at the right time. While both could be productive neither are that good and surely they won't be worth their asking price next offseason. I wonder if they'll try taking a discount to play together somewhere again though, or if Rich Paul would even let them try do that.

 

[JCSunsfan]

We really got out from their contracts at the right time. While both could be productive neither are that good and surely they won't be worth their asking price next offseason. I wonder if they'll try taking a discount to play together somewhere again though, or if Rich Paul would even let them try do that.

Any GM that does that is fool.

Magic? Lakers, here we come. Can you imagine that? The Morris twins on that squad.

 

[Hoop Head]

Any GM that does that is fool.

Magic? Lakers, here we come. Can you imagine that? The Morris twins on that squad.

With the squad the Lakers have assembled this year the Morris brothers would seem like good fits. I hope to see it happen only so I can laugh at another team.

 

[Errntknght]

With the squad the Lakers have assembled this year the Morris brothers would seem like good fits. I hope to see it happen only so I can laugh at another team.

Las Vegas says you won't be laughing much - they've pegged the Lakers over-under at 48.5 games, while rating us at 28.5

 

[AzStevenCal]

Las Vegas says you won't be laughing much - they've pegged the Lakers over-under at 48.5 games, while rating us at 28.5

I expect us to comfortably beat the other but I'd be very surprised if the Lakers weren't well above us.

 

[Hoop Head]

Las Vegas says you won't be laughing much - they've pegged the Lakers over-under at 48.5 games, while rating us at 28.5

That actually sounds like a good way to bet, really. Bet the over on the Suns and under on the Lakers. I would think you're winning one. As a Suns fan, if I don't make money out of it, I'll be ok. If I can hit on both though I'd be extremely happy. Headed to Vegas at the end of August so I hope the line doesn't change much.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Zhaire Smith with a foot injury. The curse of the Sixer rookies continues.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/250923/Zhaire-Smith-Suffers-Foot-Injury

Smith--foot, unknown
Fultz--shoulder, lost the year
Simmons--foot, lost year
Okafor--meniscus, lost months, remainder of year
Embiid--back, foot, lost two years.
Noel--knee surgery, lost year

 

[AzStevenCal]

Zhaire Smith with a foot injury. The curse of the Sixer rookies continues.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/250923/Zhaire-Smith-Suffers-Foot-Injury

Smith--foot, unknown
Fultz--shoulder, lost the year
Simmons--foot, lost year
Okafor--meniscus, lost months, remainder of year
Embiid--back, foot, lost two years.
Noel--knee surgery, lost year

Yeah, I don't see how all those name get tied to a curse unless you're talking about the curse of drafting an injured player.

 

[Mainstreet]

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Zhaire Smith with a foot injury. The curse of the Sixer rookies continues.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/250923/Zhaire-Smith-Suffers-Foot-Injury

Smith--foot, unknown
Fultz--shoulder, lost the year
Simmons--foot, lost year
Okafor--meniscus, lost months, remainder of year
Embiid--back, foot, lost two years.
Noel--knee surgery, lost year

It's so bad I don't even want to talk about the 76ers.

 

[Mainstreet]

Some more details on the Dekker trade. I'm not sure who these other guys are.



Shams Charania‏Verified account@ShamsCharania 35m35 minutes ago


Sources: Along with Sam Dekker, the Clippers have sent draft rights of Renaldas Seibutis and cash to the Cavaliers for rights of Vladimir Veremeenko.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Yeah, I don't see how all those name get tied to a curse unless you're talking about the curse of drafting an injured player.

Eh did smith, Okafor or Simmons come with any injury concerns? I don’t recall any with them.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Eh did smith, Okafor or Simmons come with any injury concerns? I don’t recall any with them.

Not that I'm aware of. I was just questioning the inclusion of Noel, Embiid and perhaps even Fultz in "the curse". As I said, not "all" of them fit.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Not that I'm aware of. I was just questioning the inclusion of Noel, Embiid and perhaps even Fultz in "the curse". As I said, not "all" of them fit.

Got it

 

[Hoop Head]

The Rockets have officially signed Carmelo now. They're apparently working on a deal with Atlanta for Kent Bazemore for Ryan Anderson. For some reason Atlanta is fine with taking Anderson's contract back in return but they want a young player and a pick in addition to him. That will help Houston make up for the loss of Ariza and Mbah a Moute but Bazemore is being paid around $19 million a year for this season and next, so it's comparable to Anderson's contract. Surprised Atlanta is ok with taking another salary dump like that though. They already took on Melo's deal and managed to get out from under Schroeder's deal in the process but it doesn't seem they care about even looking competitive right now. We'll see if that deal goes anywhere though.


http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/...re-milwaukee-bucks/1etphk1iokhg917ka8iqte99zz

 

[Yuma]

With the squad the Lakers have assembled this year the Morris brothers would seem like good fits. I hope to see it happen only so I can laugh at another team.

I would like to see them with the Big Baller brand! And travel to China! Maybe shoplift while there......

 

[Mainstreet]

The Knicks will likely end up stretching Noah's contract.

Assuming general manager Scott Perry continues to be unable to find a trade that includes Noah, the Knicks will use the NBA's waive-and-stretch provision to release Noah sometime after September 1, league sources said.

Noah, 33, has two years and $37.8M left on his contract, and waiting until September to stretch it allows the Knicks to spread the balance of his remaining contract into smaller cap hits over the next two years.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24323522/new-york-knicks-david-fizdale-plan-part-joakim-noah

 

[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

Knicks Rumors: Joakim Noah Likely to Be Released If NY Fails to Trade Him

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...ikely-to-be-released-if-ny-fails-to-trade-him

 

[GatorAZ]

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[Ronin]

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He mentions his time in Phoenix. I am not sure who he is referring to “that got mad at him for messing things up?”

I think the fans were mad at the GM, not at IT.

 

[Hoop Head]

He mentions his time in Phoenix. I am not sure who he is referring to “that got mad at him for messing things up?”

I think the fans were mad at the GM, not at IT.

I was trying to figure that out also. It could have meant a few things though. He played great off the bench and upset the chemistry of the team and I think fans blamed him for Dragic wanting out but I would be surprised if McD did. With how open McD was about Dragic at that time, if he wanted to throw in a jab at IT I think he would have.

Was there anything said by Sarver or Hornacek about IT upsetting Dragic? McD might have even said something in that regard, that Dragic didn't like playing with IT so they tried trading him but Dragic didn't care at that point. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that Hornacek had problems with IT considering the issues he's had with a number of players since then. Whatever IT means by that, I don't believe what he's talking about became public. That period was such an ugly week for the Suns though, I can't remember.

 

[Ronin]

I was trying to figure that out also. It could have meant a few things though. He played great off the bench and upset the chemistry of the team and I think fans blamed him for Dragic wanting out but I would be surprised if McD did. With how open McD was about Dragic at that time, if he wanted to throw in a jab at IT I think he would have.

Was there anything said by Sarver or Hornacek about IT upsetting Dragic? McD might have even said something in that regard, that Dragic didn't like playing with IT so they tried trading him but Dragic didn't care at that point. It wouldn't surprise me to learn that Hornacek had problems with IT considering the issues he's had with a number of players since then. Whatever IT means by that, I don't believe what he's talking about became public. That period was such an ugly week for the Suns though, I can't remember.

This article is the only thing I could find. In this article Ryan McDonough calls the IT trade a mistake.
So like you said there was probably something going on behind the scenees with the coaches and team.

Suns GM McDonough: Trading Isaiah Thomas was a mistake

https://www.si.com/nba/2016/02/25/phoenix-suns-isaiah-thomas-trade-mistake-ryan-mcdonough

 

[Ronin]

Thomas later apologized for the comments, claiming he didn’t mean what he said. “I shouldn’t have said that. That was my fault. Cleveland was actually cool, it was all right,” Thomas said. “The situation just wasn’t the best. I apologize for saying it was a s—h—. It wasn’t a s—h—. The team was dope, the players was filthy. My guy Gio. Training staff was cold. “Nah, Cleveland was cool. I shouldn’t have said that, that was my bad. I was just talking on IG Live, I didn’t think it was gonna get to where they’re posting it. It’s like damn, my bad.”

Read more at: https://nesn.com/2018/08/nuggets-isaiah-thomas-blasts-s-hole-cleveland-issues-apology/