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Herm Edwards said it best. 'YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME" not kick a fg and tie it. DA and Hall lost this game

Not with 2:15 on the clock...Even if we score there....does anyone think here we wouldn't have let them march down the field? It is called clock management!!!! It is called take your time and throw a draw in there to keep their defense honest...Even Tampa had 6 players back on middle coverage hence the INT......Jesus we had 2 To's and the 2 min warning...why force the plays so fast and then abandon the run when we had an eternity of time????

You play to win the game...But you must use your head while doing it. Ask ND coach how many people think he is SMART?????
 

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Minus Hypens 30 yard run.

YPC 3.1

LOl You cant take away a run and then use it to make stats...ROFL....Take away CALIFORNIA and NEW YORK and the DEMOCRATS USUALLY LOSE THE ELECTION. Love how people add and subtract to make their own stats.
 

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Herm Edwards said it best. 'YOU PLAY TO WIN THE GAME" not kick a fg and tie it. DA and Hall lost this game

I wanted a TD, too, but surely a run there wouldn't hurt. Plus, that pick was out of the shotgun and the way DA stares down his reciever, thats a disaster waiting to happen.
 

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Not with 2:15 on the clock...Even if we score there....does anyone think here we wouldn't have let them march down the field? It is called clock management!!!! It is called take your time and throw a draw in there to keep their defense honest...Even Tampa had 6 players back on middle coverage hence the INT......Jesus we had 2 To's and the 2 min warning...why force the plays so fast and then abandon the run when we had an eternity of time????

You play to win the game...But you must use your head while doing it. Ask ND coach how many people think he is SMART?????

We did try to run it. Hightower got 1 yard on the play. There was no running game. He had to throw to try and score. DA is well, DA.

My disappointment is that DA keeps trying to force to Fitz with 3 guys covering him....uuuggh
 

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Yes but lets get the game to 38-38...and then lets see who makes first mistake...But we dont throw the ball....Tampa was making all the mistakes hence why we came back from 17 points....we gave them the game by acting like we are a good passing team.
 

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LOl You cant take away a run and then use it to make stats...ROFL....Take away CALIFORNIA and NEW YORK and the DEMOCRATS USUALLY LOSE THE ELECTION. Love how people add and subtract to make their own stats.

You really saw a running game out there today? Where? Hypens run? ...where else? Hightowers one yard run or Wells 3 ypc?

Did yuo watch the game? really?
 

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Not with 2:15 on the clock...Even if we score there....does anyone think here we wouldn't have let them march down the field? It is called clock management!!!! It is called take your time and throw a draw in there to keep their defense honest...Even Tampa had 6 players back on middle coverage hence the INT......Jesus we had 2 To's and the 2 min warning...why force the plays so fast and then abandon the run when we had an eternity of time????

You play to win the game...But you must use your head while doing it. Ask ND coach how many people think he is SMART?????

Well said & my thoughts exactly!!!
Yeah me & a buddy laughed our ass off yesterday as the Irish had the same thing happen...it wasn't so funny today. Stupid playcall, stupid throw into triple coverage!!!
 

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Yes but lets get the game to 38-38...and then lets see who makes first mistake...But we dont throw the ball....Tampa was making all the mistakes hence why we came back from 17 points....we gave them the game by acting like we are a good passing team.

Ok, I get it....we go for a tie. Puhhlease.

You'd be the first one bitching had we had 3 straight runs for 5 yards and had to kick the FG.....:mulli:
 

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Well said & my thoughts exactly!!!
Yeah me & a buddy laughed our ass off yesterday as the Irish had the same thing happen...it wasn't so funny today. Stupid playcall, stupid throw into triple coverage!!!

agreed...It almost defies logic too...I mean why? And what is worse the coaches think it was the right call. Kelly said.."Hey get use to it..we are going for the win" uhh ok...so kicking a fg with the best kicker in ND history isnt going for the win.

WHen Kelly made that statement..."I wish a reporter would have said" Great...well we will be use to losing and asking you why you make dumb decisions.
 

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Ok, I get it....we go for a tie. Puhhlease.

You'd be the first one bitching had we had 3 straight runs for 5 yards and had to kick the FG.....:mulli:

No I wouldn't not after throwing 3 INT's already and 2 for pick 6's. ...and again I didnt say run 3 straight times! I said run some! Meaning run twice and then throw a safe pass.....like the previous TD.....Fitz screen.
 

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Ok, I get it....we go for a tie. Puhhlease.

You'd be the first one bitching had we had 3 straight runs for 5 yards and had to kick the FG.....:mulli:
Its called smart football, we would have won the game by 3 points if he takes the points instead of passing the ball with horrible QBs.
 

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This is the freaking NFL, which stands for NOT FOR LONG if you don't get basic game management down.

IT'S BASIC GAME MANAGEMENT that when you have a chance to tie, you don't screw that up, you go ahead and try to score, you can do many things there, BUT YOU DON'T THROW A PICK OR CALL A PLAY THAT HAS THAT HIGH OF A CHANCE OF ONE HAPPENING.


You just don't, not unless you're stupid.

Maybe Whiz made a safe call and DA just did that on his own, in that case bad on DA, but I think that was one of the options on that play, in which case the entire playcall was stupid.

Maybe a sideline route sure, maybe a screen, wouldn't do it personally but maybe, or a draw there, out of the gun, again I'd of just lined up and ran it once at least there on 1st down but I would not EVER let someone like DA throw the ball over the middle THERE in that situation, EVER.
 
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At least in the coming week the media will talk about Favre and not about how bad the Cards are.
 

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Its called smart football, we would have won the game by 3 points if he takes the points instead of passing the ball with horrible QBs.

I dont disagree on the 4th down call early in the game. Should have taken the points there.

As frar as the end of the game goes, you have to go with what is working (or in the Cards case, what is suckiing less) and thats the passing game.

Sorry, but you guys shd be pissed at DA or Hall, not Whiz.
 

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This is the freaking NFL, which stands for NOT FOR LONG if you don't get basic game management down.

IT'S BASIC GAME MANAGEMENT that when you have a chance to tie, you don't screw that up, you go ahead and try to score, you can do many things there, BUT YOU DON'T THROW A PICK OR CALL A PLAY THAT HAS THAT HIGH OF A CHANCE OF ONE HAPPENING.


You just don't, not unless you're stupid.

1000% agree....I mean I wish these coaches and players got paid for winning and losing...Meaning you get paid based on stats and if you win or not.

Because if you have 50,000 guaranteed if you dont lose the ball but you could win 500,000. You play safe so you dont lose the 50,000 but you try to win the 500,00...But you do it smartly.
 

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Howd we get those first downs again? Our vaunted running game? No PASSING THE BALL!


I won't argue with that...but you don't PASS THE BALL into triple coverage with the game on the line...correction, never PASS THE BALL into triple coverage
 

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I dont disagree on the 4th down call early in the game. Should have taken the points there.

As frar as the end of the game goes, you have to go with what is working (or in the Cards case, what is suckiing less) and thats the passing game.

Sorry, but you guys shd be pissed at DA or Hall, not Whiz.

Who called the play? Nuff said. A turnover prone QB on 1st down...I take my chances on a fade on 3rd down. If not kick the FG. Your logic makes no sense. Again, the outcome is what it is, a game ending Int.
 

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His playcalling was fine. 2 pick sixes and DA's int at the end was what killed us. Cards dont have a running game (as judged by Beanies 3.1 ypc) and you dont play for a tie to kick a field goal at the end of the game...you try and win it.

We averaged over 4 YPC, Beanie wasn't great but Hyphen was.

I agree you don't play for the FG at the end but you also have to consider the time on the clock. You want to score a TD with very little time on the clock for TB. So just abandoning the run there was bad.

DA is only effective when the defense doesn't know it's a pass.
 

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I won't argue with that...but you don't PASS THE BALL into triple coverage with the game on the line...correction, never PASS THE BALL into triple coverage

I agree, but how do you blame whiz for that? Not you, but the board? Thats DA
 

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