Trade talks & rumors

[Mainstreet]

McD is collecting assets for a future big trade which is coming soon. What to do with Ennis, Goodwyn, Zoran, Warren and now Bullock? All could be involved in a blockbuster along with one or two big pieces but for who?

It's a coming. Green may be a likely piece.

 

[Ronin]

The Suns moves have been noticed by Zach Lowe

Zach Lowe ‏@ZachLowe_NBA 43s43 seconds ago
Suns out here just mooching interesting players/prospects from teams doing weird stuff.

 

[StreetTruckinTitan]

It's a coming. Green may be a likely piece.

I agree. Green, along with maybe one of the Morris brothers and probably IT, or Bledsoe. The anticipation is killin me!

 

[Mainstreet]

The Suns moves have been noticed by Zach Lowe

I agree. Green, along with maybe one of the Morris brothers and probably IT, or Bledsoe. The anticipation is killin me!

The Suns are on the move and McDonough is dealing the cards.

 

[Chaz]

Caught the end of the Babby interview today.
They aren't going to make moves just to try and make the playoffs at the expense of the future. They want long term prospects at this point not veteran rentals.

Looks like they got Reggie Bullock for Randolph today. Good move for a young SG. Randolph became expendable after they acquired Wright.

 

[Mainstreet]

Caught the end of the Babby interview today.
They aren't going to make moves just to try and make the playoffs at the expense of the future. They want long term prospects at this point not veteran rentals.

Looks like they got Reggie Bullock for Randolph today. Good move for a young SG. Randolph became expendable after they acquired Wright.

Do you have a link to the Babby interview?

 

[Chaz]

Do you have a link to the Babby interview?

http://arizonasports.com/?nid=243&auto=1&aid=309776

 

[AzStevenCal]

I agree. Green, along with maybe one of the Morris brothers and probably IT, or Bledsoe. The anticipation is killin me!

I don't think we'll move Bledsoe and I'd be very surprised if we split up the twins.

Steve

 

[Mainstreet]

http://arizonasports.com/?nid=243&auto=1&aid=309776

Thanks so very much.

 

[elindholm]

McD is collecting assets for a future big trade which is coming soon.

It's hilarious to me that this is the board's response to literally everything McDonough does. He could crap his pants while lighting his necktie on fire, and we'd immediately get half a dozen posts about how it's all about laying the groundwork for a big trade.

 

[Griffin]

I like the move. It certainly didn't cost the Suns anything, as Randolph wasn't going to get off the bench with Wright here.

But, there is such a thing as too many prospects on a single NBA roster. For players like Bullock, Ennis, Warren or Goodwin, all recent mid to late-first round picks, to accumulate real trade value, they have to play and start showing some real progress. Being on the same team, they won't get to all play, and being on a playoff-aspiring team with more established players ahead on the depth chart, they might not get to play at all, as has been the case thus far.

Bullock was just an afterthought in a trade where the main piece is not even an established player himself, but was a higher draft pick. And he won't be much more to another team than an intriguing trade filler, unless the Suns give him some playing time and allow to develop, which isn't likely with the current roster makeup. Same can be said about the others.

 

[SirStefan32]

It's hilarious to me that this is the board's response to literally everything McDonough does. He could crap his pants while lighting his necktie on fire, and we'd immediately get half a dozen posts about how it's all about laying the groundwork for a big trade.

That is so true! I just want to see how many years he'll be able to ride that wave ("I am collecting assets for a big trade.")

 

[82CardsGrad]

It's hilarious to me that this is the board's response to literally everything McDonough does. He could crap his pants while lighting his necktie on fire, and we'd immediately get half a dozen posts about how it's all about laying the groundwork for a big trade.

I agree... Of course, perhaps it's merely a disconnect in terms of the definition of "big". What player(s) out there would fit the term "big"?? And then, how likely is it that that player(s) would ever end up in a Suns uniform? Harden? Cousins? Wall? Paul? Curry? Lillard? I guess those types of names would be considered "big"... But would they ever be seen in a Suns uniform?

I think McDonough is merely doing the job he believes needs to be done in order to make this team a consistent post season player.
He has certainly built a decent foundation up to this point and it appears to me that he is adding bit and pieces to ensure he has options at his disposal. Options that would allow him to continue to have the needed currency to snag additional parts wherever and whenever he feels it's appropriate. But a "big" deal? I don't see it...

 

[Chaz]

I like the move. It certainly didn't cost the Suns anything, as Randolph wasn't going to get off the bench with Wright here.

But, there is such a thing as too many prospects on a single NBA roster. For players like Bullock, Ennis, Warren or Goodwin, all recent mid to late-first round picks, to accumulate real trade value, they have to play and start showing some real progress. Being on the same team, they won't get to all play, and being on a playoff-aspiring team with more established players ahead on the depth chart, they might not get to play at all, as has been the case thus far.

Bullock was just an afterthought in a trade where the main piece is not even an established player himself, but was a higher draft pick. And he won't be much more to another team than an intriguing trade filler, unless the Suns give him some playing time and allow to develop, which isn't likely with the current roster makeup. Same can be said about the others.

Depends on your time frame. These young guys are under contract for years to come. They may not get playing time this year but that doesn't mean the Suns are just biding their time to trade them.

I think they acquired all of these guys with the thought that they could contribute at some point. If they get an offer it would have to add value from the Suns perspective and not just be a lateral move of swapping assets to fit some kind of idea of an ideal team composition.

I think the Suns wanted Bullock all along. They were able to piggy back on another trade to acquire a player that they liked, very much like the Bledsoe trade.
It is smart maneuvering by the Suns and I think they are very wisely being patient and keeping their options open for the right opportunity.

 

[Absolute Zero]

Caught the end of the Babby interview today.
They aren't going to make moves just to try and make the playoffs at the expense of the future. They want long term prospects at this point not veteran rentals.

Looks like they got Reggie Bullock for Randolph today. Good move for a young SG. Randolph became expendable after they acquired Wright.

Just announced the same thing on 98.7 FM. Honestly, I have never heard of this guy, but we'll see. We have a lot of young talent and no minutes to give them.

 

[sunsfan88]

What's going on here guys? Who the hell is Reggie Bullock? Never heard of him before personally but looks like a former 1st rd pick prospect with some potential?

Is he a 3 & D type guy or what?

This guy couldn't beat out the likes of Jared Dudley & Matt Barnes for minutes.

Looks like we're gonna have even more young guys behind Warren, Goodwin & Ennis?

 

[sunsfan88]

It's hilarious to me that this is the board's response to literally everything McDonough does. He could crap his pants while lighting his necktie on fire, and we'd immediately get half a dozen posts about how it's all about laying the groundwork for a big trade.

That is so true! I just want to see how many years he'll be able to ride that wave ("I am collecting assets for a big trade.")

I think this is what we call "The Honeymoon Period".

Nobody will criticize his moves for 2-3 years unless these moves pay off.

 

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[SirStefan32]

What's going on here guys? Who the hell is Reggie Bullock? Never heard of him before personally but looks like a former 1st rd pick prospect with some potential?

Is he a 3 & D type guy or what?

This guy couldn't beat out the likes of Jared Dudley & Matt Barnes for minutes.

Looks like we're gonna have even more young guys behind Warren, Goodwin & Ennis?

Pretty much. Imagine if Tucker was more athletic but not quite as strong. Perhaps a slightly better shooter too. That described Reggie pretty well.
I don't think he has a really high ceiling (like Len, Warren, or even Goodwin), but he will be a very good role player if given a chance.

 

[elindholm]

I agree... Of course, perhaps it's merely a disconnect in terms of the definition of "big". What player(s) out there would fit the term "big"?? And then, how likely is it that that player(s) would ever end up in a Suns uniform? Harden? Cousins? Wall? Paul? Curry? Lillard? I guess those types of names would be considered "big"... But would they ever be seen in a Suns uniform?

I think everyone is remembering the trade that brought Garnett to Boston.

That trade needed two things to be possible: a perennial All-Star who clearly needed a change of scenery, and a potential star talent, on his rookie contract, coming the other way. Garnett was about to go on a killing spree in Minnesota, and Boston had Al Jefferson, who was then a promising, if inconsistent, big man. (Amusingly, the one and only Gerald Green was also sent from Boston to Minnesota in that trade.)

Until recently, the Suns didn't have anyone who could fit the "potential star talent" role. But Len is now intriguing enough that someone might bite. You can bet that, if an established star were to come on the market right now and Phoenix got involved in the talks, the other side would be asking about Len first and foremost.

There are four obvious candidates for "All-Star on the move":

Carmelo Anthony, who most of this board does not want.

Chris Bosh, who most of this board does not want.

Kevin Love, but it's probably too soon for Cleveland to pull the plug on that experiment.

DeMarcus Cousins. Unquestionably the most tantalizing player in the league among those who might be available. Like Barkley did before being traded from Philadelphia, Cousins has a reputation for being troublesome; maybe he's also like Barkley in that he'd settle down if he got to play for a good team. Or maybe not.

The Kings are going nowhere and have some dead weight that they would do well to clean out. If they give up on Cousins, the Suns could make a serious bid, but only if they'd be willing to include Len. We can dream about getting Cousins and salary ballast for Bledsoe, Morrises, and picks, but it's not happening -- if Cousins goes on the market, one of the other 28 teams in the league will beat that offer.

So, do you ship Len off for Cousins, or not? That's what it comes down to.

 

[SirStefan32]

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Ahahaha!

 

[Mainstreet]

It's hilarious to me that this is the board's response to literally everything McDonough does. He could crap his pants while lighting his necktie on fire, and we'd immediately get half a dozen posts about how it's all about laying the groundwork for a big trade.

I listened to the Lon Babby interview on the radio. He says as the Suns move towards the trade deadline they will be looking to make moves, some may be small moves and some may be a big move as the opportunities present themselves. However, he will not do anything to jeopardize the Suns future. You can laugh as much as you like but the Suns have done a great job of putting themselves in position to take advantage of a trade opportunity that can help the team. What can be considered a big trade now or in the future can be debated. I like what McDonough has done, e.g., trading for Bledsoe and drafting Len.

http://arizonasports.com/?nid=243&auto=1&aid=309776

 

[sunsfan88]

I would abslurely trade Len for Cousins.

But honestly, I can't imagine Sacramento trading Cousins especially within the division.

I don't think there's a damn thing on our roster or draft picks that could net him.

 

[82CardsGrad]

I think everyone is remembering the trade that brought Garnett to Boston.

That trade needed two things to be possible: a perennial All-Star who clearly needed a change of scenery, and a potential star talent, on his rookie contract, coming the other way. Garnett was about to go on a killing spree in Minnesota, and Boston had Al Jefferson, who was then a promising, if inconsistent, big man. (Amusingly, the one and only Gerald Green was also sent from Boston to Minnesota in that trade.)

Until recently, the Suns didn't have anyone who could fit the "potential star talent" role. But Len is now intriguing enough that someone might bite. You can bet that, if an established star were to come on the market right now and Phoenix got involved in the talks, the other side would be asking about Len first and foremost.

There are four obvious candidates for "All-Star on the move":

Carmelo Anthony, who most of this board does not want.

Chris Bosh, who most of this board does not want.

Kevin Love, but it's probably too soon for Cleveland to pull the plug on that experiment.

DeMarcus Cousins. Unquestionably the most tantalizing player in the league among those who might be available. Like Barkley did before being traded from Philadelphia, Cousins has a reputation for being troublesome; maybe he's also like Barkley in that he'd settle down if he got to play for a good team. Or maybe not.

The Kings are going nowhere and have some dead weight that they would do well to clean out. If they give up on Cousins, the Suns could make a serious bid, but only if they'd be willing to include Len. We can dream about getting Cousins and salary ballast for Bledsoe, Morrises, and picks, but it's not happening -- if Cousins goes on the market, one of the other 28 teams in the league will beat that offer.

So, do you ship Len off for Cousins, or not? That's what it comes down to.

Agree with all of that... And I would not cough up Len for Cousins. I think Len's value and performance will ultimately be greater than whatever ceiling Cousins hits - if has not already hit that ceiling.

 

[82CardsGrad]

I listened to the Lon Babby interview on the radio. He says as the Suns move towards the trade deadline they will be looking to make moves, some may be small moves and some may be a big move as the opportunities present themselves. However, he will not do anything to jeopardize the Suns future. You can laugh as much as you like but the Suns have done a great job of putting themselves in position to take advantage of a trade opportunity that can help the team. What can be considered a big trade now or in the future can be debated. I like what McDonough has done, e.g., trading for Bledsoe and drafting Len.

http://arizonasports.com/?nid=243&auto=1&aid=309776

I don't think anyone is questioning the shrewdness of McDonough... The issue seems to about that with every move he makes, many here read into it and believe it's all about prepping for that one "big trade"... As I mentioned earlier - "big" needs to be defined...