What about the 13th Player?

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How about Rajon Rondo? Nate Robinson? Or for that matter Luol Deng?

I don't know how the Suns are thinking. Are they waiting for a buyout, looking at a FA already out there or perhaps a trade using a second round pick in combination with the TE to bring in a player? The Suns might even use the Atlanta pick for the right player or could even try the 10 day contract on a player until the trading deadline. I don't have the answer and maybe the Suns are justing biding their time but I do think they want a contributor or they could plug anyone into this spot. If the Suns didn't realize it enough already, this is their window. The expectation for a Championship is now with the acquisition of Shaq. Sarver may be more of a gunslinger than the fans thought.
 

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Khryapa would get PT for the Suns now that Marion's gone. IMO he's a bigger James Jones.

I hope the team gave him a call before he boarded that plane back to Russia...
 

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How about Rajon Rondo? Nate Robinson? Or for that matter Luol Deng?
I'm not suggesting Sergio just because we drafted him and traded him away.....I'm suggesting him because we need a backup PG that plays a similar style to Nash, is cheap and probably is available.
 
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Khryapa would get PT for the Suns now that Marion's gone. IMO he's a bigger James Jones.

I hope the team gave him a call before he boarded that plane back to Russia...

We sure agree about this one. Also Khryapa has some nice inside moves which is why he caught my eye in the first place. He is not uncomfortable negotiating in traffic underneath the basket.
 

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I'm guessing it's Bobby Jones or Linton Johnson, and I'm leaning towards the latter right now I think. I'd be just fine with either one of them.

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Wow, Bobby Jones is available too? He's another one of my favorites.

I guess I just suck as an armchair GM. :lol:
 

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I wouldn't mind getting Gelabale, either.

I'm surprised there's been no mention of Quinton Ross.
 

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i don't think ross is available, is he? the clips might want to hold him until livingston comes back. when he does, they can evaluate if he's going to fully recover and what not before they trade ross away. and besides, isn't ross a poor defender?
 

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Ross is a defensive specialist. They always try to match him against Nash when they play Phx.

Right now, he's not playing for them; not sure whether he's hurt or just doesn't fit, now that they need so much offense from their swing spots. Either way, he'll be a free agent at the end of the year.
 

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There is some indication the Suns and Mavs may be interested in Pietrus, but Warriors are not cooperative.

From various articles:
The Suns and Mavericks are among the teams said to be looking for help at the wing positions, and the Heat tried unsuccessfully to trade for Pietrus in the offseason.
Mickael Pietrus is unhappy with his role on the Warriors and wants to be traded. The Suns and Mavericks are among the teams said to be interested, but for now the Warriors are in no rush to move him.
If the Suns were to offer the Hawks pick for Pietrus, would you do it? We don't really have anything else to trade that other teams couldn't better.
 

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Pietrus is in the last year of his contract and is making $3.5 million, which is about the same cost to us with his pro-rated salary & luxury tax costs. I don't think I'd want to trade the Atlanta pick for a 4-5 month rental on Pietrus. If the Suns are really interested then they might be able to sign him for the mid-level exemption ($5.5 mil?) this summer. I'd rather not trade the Atlanta pick because the guy we pick up probably isn't going to play a whole lot. I'd be happy if we could get a guy that could fill a 8-9th spot on the team and push either Pike or Marks to the inactive list.
 
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It is another deep draft, according to scout reports, the top 10 draftees r as good as last year.

Atlanta is currently ranked #11 by worst record, they had a good record in the first half of season, but losing badly recently. My guess they will probably end up at top 10 in draft. It is too valuable to give up.
 

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Atlanta is currently ranked #11 by worst record, they had a good record in the first half of season, but losing badly recently. My guess they will probably end up at top 10 in draft. It is too valuable to give up.
But if the Hawks make the playoffs, that pick can be no higher than 15 regardless of their record.
 

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But if the Hawks make the playoffs, that pick can be no higher than 15 regardless of their record.


They r just #8 seed in the east now, with a couple of teams close behind. They r currently on a losing streak, also panicky, heavy trade rumor. I don't think they can make the playoff.
 

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(02-11) 23:50 PST Oakland -- Nobody's backing down in the Warriors' standoff with Mickael Pietrus as they approach the Feb. 21 trade deadline. Pietrus' agent, Bill McCandless, says that Golden State remains unreceptive to potential deals despite interest in his client from around the league.
"We quietly requested a trade prior to the first date on which he could be traded this season, and we've repeated this request many times," McCandless said. "There are several teams who would like to acquire Mike, and several offers have been made.
"We thought he was traded last week, but the trade was nixed at the 11th hour. Three days ago, Mike met with Chris (Mullin), and two days ago, Mike met with coach (Don) Nelson, both times repeating the trade request."
Problem is, Golden State has little incentive to make a deal it doesn't like, and its executives still view Pietrus as an important part of the team, if he can return to last season's level of play. Nelson has moved the 6-foot-6 forward, who has been playing out of position at power forward, back down to the 3-spot as Stephen Jackson's primary backup.
"Mike has been asked to play out of position for all of this season," McCandless added. "He does not want to play the 4 and the 5. Mike doesn't want to be a corner spot-up shooter for whom no offensive plays are run. He simply feels he can contribute much more on both ends of the floor for another team. He truly hopes to be traded tomorrow."
The Suns and Mavericks are among the teams said to be looking for help at the wing positions, and the Heat tried unsuccessfully to trade for Pietrus in the offseason.

This is interesting. If we offer our trade exception, it is the best deal GSW can get financially, the Mavs and the Heat have can only give expiring contracts. Really like Pietrus to join us.
 

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This is interesting. If we offer our trade exception, it is the best deal GSW can get financially, the Mavs and the Heat have can only give expiring contracts. Really like Pietrus to join us.

but we don't want to pay double money for Pietrus' servise. And Mavs are too loaded at 2/3 anyway so that I don't think they'd be giving up any of their players to get him.
 

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Pietrus:
Outstanding athletism.
Very Good defender. I saw him as a future lockdown defender but it looks like his willing to be considered as a legitimate offensive option make him less focus on defense (his biggest mistake IMO).
He can use his athletism to grab a fair amount of rebounds.
On offense, he is a consistent corner 3s shooter. his athletism makes him a very good open court player. In the half court he is not very good. He is an average (to poor) ballhandler and passer.
His midrange game is very limited.
Unable to create his own shot.
Low basketball IQ.

I believe he should try to become a "Bruce Bowen" kind of player (Defense and 3s + finish in transition). If he accepts that, he could turn into a really valuable player.
 

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Living in the bay area for five years, that is a very accurate assessment of Pietrus.
 

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Does anyone find it oddly coincidental that as soon as the word is out that Shawn Marion is traded to Miami (and Phoenix is looking for a defensive minded 3)

that,

Artest misses a practice and reiterates his desire to be traded,
Khryapa agrees to a disadvantageous buyout,
Pietrus, demands a trade.

?????
 

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Does anyone find it oddly coincidental that as soon as the word is out that Shawn Marion is traded to Miami (and Phoenix is looking for a defensive minded 3)

that,

Artest misses a practice and reiterates his desire to be traded,
Khryapa agrees to a disadvantageous buyout,
Pietrus, demands a trade.

?????
Well, Pietrus wants a buyout because he is not getting enough minutes to be able to get a big contract from someone in the off season. He wants to increase his market value, and I don't know if he can do that in Phoenix unless he gets 20 minutes a game. Khryapa already signed a four-year contract with Moscow. You'd think that if he wanted to come to Phoenix, he would have waited a little bit. And Artest will be looking to go to a team that will potentially re-sign him to that $14M/year contract he is looking for. I doubt he would mind stopping in Phoenix for a title run, but he would be gone in the off season and the Suns are mainly looking for a backup to Hill, not a starter.
 

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How to get Artest without much money.

Trade a pick and 3 million cash for a second rounder in 2020.
Sac waives Artest. We pick him up for the minimum.

Everyone gets something. Most importantly, we don't pay 8 million in lux tax for him. Its really no different than what Dallas is doing with Stackhouse.
 

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How to get Artest without much money.

Trade a pick and 3 million cash for a second rounder in 2020.
Sac waives Artest. We pick him up for the minimum.

Everyone gets something. Most importantly, we don't pay 8 million in lux tax for him. Its really no different than what Dallas is doing with Stackhouse.
Do you have Kerr's direct phone line? Get it.
 
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