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Just needs to catch better thats all.

something he had no problem doing in college so I will say the kid is overwhelmed coming from a small school & very nervous. He will be a good one in a few years.
 

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You guys talking about Roberts getting cut are nuts. Won't happen gentlemen. This was one preseason game. This kid definitely has the ability to be a Steve Smith (NYG) type receiver in this league.

I agree with you at this point in the preseason. However, Whiz has shown he's willing to cut a third round pick if he has to. Roberts needs to pick it up a bit to be safe.
 

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he had an uncanny ability to be open. Just needs to catch better thats all.

You guys talking about Roberts getting cut are nuts. Won't happen gentlemen. This was one preseason game. This kid definitely has the ability to be a Steve Smith (NYG) type receiver in this league.

I agree with both of you. He made a big jump from the Citadel to the NFL and I'm confident he'll be just fine once he settles in.
 

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I lke the guy but Adams should not make the team unless we are willing to keep him JUST for SPT.

Very disapointed in our Roberts. But he will make this team and I dare say will improve over time. It looks like the game is a tad fast for him now and that he has no comfort level at all.

All CB's not named DRC or Tolar all though Jorick Calvin made some plays in the game .

Jay feely Only kicked one into the end zone, if it wasn't for the very good plays of our very fast ST guys it wouldn't have been pretty.

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You guys talking about Roberts getting cut are nuts. Won't happen gentlemen. This was one preseason game. This kid definitely has the ability to be a Steve Smith (NYG) type receiver in this league.

+1

Unless Roberts pulls a Buster Davis, he stays with the team.

But it's not out of the realm of possibility that S. Williams suppliants him on the depth chart at WR if he continues to play out of his mind
 

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I agree with you at this point in the preseason. However, Whiz has shown he's willing to cut a third round pick if he has to. Roberts needs to pick it up a bit to be safe.

Buster got cut for being a d*ck and thinking he knew more than the coaches. Rashad Johnson showed NOTHING last year, but had a positive attitude, and thus was kept around. You guys do realize that Roberts
was targeted that many times because he was juking his man out of his shoes all night right?? He's halfway there. The kid has shown that he has great hands before. You can see in his eyes he is just a little starstuck right now IMO.
 

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You guys do realize that Roberts
was targeted that many times because he was juking his man out of his shoes all night right?? He's halfway there. The kid has shown that he has great hands before. You can see in his eyes he is just a little starstuck right now IMO.

There are 2 problems with this argument.

1) Fist off Roberts was drafted as a PR, and all I have seen him do is drop punts in training camp, or fair catch. I have yet to see him return one.

2) S. Williams and Komar don't seem to have hands issues. The UDFAs seem to be outperforming him at this point.
 
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One of my problems with Roberts is he seemed to be surprised when the ball was thrown to him.

It could just be the speed of the game but he seemed to have that "There's the ball, I can't believe it" look.

Or better yet " I didn't think there would be a defender there" look.
 

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There are 2 problems with this argument.

1) Fist off Roberts was drafted as a PR, and all I have seen him do is drop punts in training camp, or fair catch. I have yet to see him return one.

2) S. Williams and Komar don't seem to have hands issues. The UDFAs seem to be outperforming him at this point.

I don't understand where people get the idea that Roberts was drafted only to return punts. The kid was drafted as a receiver, who could also return punts.
 

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I don't understand where people get the idea that Roberts was drafted only to return punts. The kid was drafted as a receiver, who could also return punts.

Yes, you are correct and I didn't really state my post well.

The idea was that Roberts was drafted to be a receiver that could also return punts, so that Breaston could focus on being the #2.

He had really good days and really bad days if you read the camp reports.

Shane, Chris, you ever see this guy return one in a Cards Uniform?
 

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Most wrs take 2 to 3 years to develop as it is quite a change from college to the NFL. Roberts will be fine.
 

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Yes, you are correct and I didn't really state my post well.

The idea was that Roberts was drafted to be a receiver that could also return punts, so that Breaston could focus on being the #2.

He had really good days and really bad days if you read the camp reports.

Shane, Chris, you ever see this guy return one in a Cards Uniform?

THIS!!!!!!!!!

Yes Andre Roberts was not drafted just to be a punt returner, but his ability to return punts was one of the reasons for his perceived value as a pick.

I am sorry to say this, but if you are drafted to be a receiver and a punt returner, and you can't return punts or catch a football, you are a disappointment no matter your potential. Do I think that he gets cut? Not yet. But I of the mind that unless he starts to show improvement, the Cards may try and sneak him onto the practice squad. We are too deep at wide receiver, and have too much unproven talent at more important positions to keep a guy who isn't showing that he can play.
 
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It's already been said a couple times, but seeing that scud of a field goal attempt by Feely gave me a real sinking feeling in my gut

Feely tends to choke in the clutch much like Rackers did, but great when the games not on the line.

If I recall, the reports on Feely were that he doesn't have the BIG leg but that he was dependable from about 40-45 yards and in. And could make those clutch kicks. The missed field goal was about a 50 yarder.

:shrug:
 

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If I recall, the reports on Feely were that he doesn't have the BIG leg but that he was dependable from about 40-45 yards and in. And could make those clutch kicks. The missed field goal was about a 50 yarder.

:shrug:

It was more like 51.5 yards.
 

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THIS!!!!!!!!!

Yes Andre Roberts was not drafted just to be a punt returner, but his ability to return punts was one of the reasons for his perceived value as a pick.

I am sorry to say this, but if you are drafted to be a receiver and a punt returner, and you can't return punts or catch a football, you are a disappointment no matter your potential. Do I think that he gets cut? Not yet. But I of the mind that unless he starts to show improvement, the Cards may try and sneak him onto the practice squad. We are too deep at wide receiver, and have too much unproven talent at more important positions to keep a guy who isn't showing that he can play.

Well, I'm of the mind... that it is simply too early to tell.
 

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I will tell you who had a bad game. The people I was sitting next to at the game. You can really tell who the front runners are or who got free tickets and borrowed a cards fans jersey from. And there was a ton of them.

Some of the lines I heard that night -

"What number is Matt?"

"I heard that Dan Henderson guy is pretty good and is better then Matt?"

During the Cox question of the game of who was our 1st rounder "Andre Roberts"

That was just the tip of the iceberg.

We definitely have a lot more front-runner and casual fans than in years past. It's kind of obnoxious, but what can you do? At least they are cheering for the home team.

Yes, you are correct and I didn't really state my post well.

The idea was that Roberts was drafted to be a receiver that could also return punts, so that Breaston could focus on being the #2.

He had really good days and really bad days if you read the camp reports.

Shane, Chris, you ever see this guy return one in a Cards Uniform?

Yeah, he looked pretty bad in camp. I hope you guys that are saying he will do better once he settles down are correct. Personally, I am not optimistic. He fair caught a lot of balls last night and, while I was glad he actually caught them, I was surprised he didn't take a chance on actually returning a few. Those footsteps he heard were not as close as he might have thought.

Right now, Williams looks like a much better keeper than Roberts.
 
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Shane, Chris, you ever see this guy return one in a Cards Uniform?

Honestly, I was suprised he could execute a fair catch, that is how awful he is.

I haven't seen such awful hands since Bryant Johnson. Seriously he was so bad the coach called him out. That is awful.

I don't care that he could catch at Citadel. Everyone can play at college. That is why they get drafted.
 
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