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I would not argue the point because I think arm length is important as well. The rebounding may be a reflection.
Who is the Star the Suns could get or event want?
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I would not argue the point because I think arm length is important as well. The rebounding may be a reflection.
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I'd love to get Young. He's one that I've been talking about as well. If we could do a trade just between us and Philly or even add in Houston in a 3 way. I'd love to be able to get Hawes as well, especially if a trade costs us Frye. Hawes would help alleviate any loss of Frye would cause.
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He's listed as a SF though he has been listed as a PF at times, too. I'd expect him to start at SF and play PF when Hornacek wanted to go small.
His rebounding has been the same as a SF and PF... so you can look at him as a great rebounding SF or slightly subpar rebounding PF
His rebounding has been the same as a SF and PF... so you can look at him as a great rebounding SF or slightly subpar rebounding PF
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Do you know how many rebounds Frye averages per game?
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If the Suns really are after Young they must see him as an upgrade in some capacity because even if they get him for a pick and Okafor he's gonna take 30 minutes a game from somebody. Young seems more like Morris than Frye.
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You pose this question as if I support the idea that Frye is a legit 4.
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If he's not a PF what is his natural position?
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That's been the question that has followed him throughout his college and NBA career. He's definitely a tweener forward. A good one but I'm not sure you can win consistently with him starting at either forward spot. He'd be a great weapon in the right situations (off the bench and spot starts) but I'm not sure he sees that in his future.
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I don't think he'd quibble over his role at this point.
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Does anyone see Young as the answer to our backup C problem or our weakish rebounding? I sure don't and I can't imagine McD does either. If the trade is the three way: Frye -> Asik -> Young, then it hurts us at C and is a wash for rebounding. I don't think McD would do that trade unless he had another move in mind. The move could be Okafor returning to active duty and maybe even betting on Len, but those seem remote possibilities.
My guess is that we don't push the button on that trade but it will be interesting to see what McD pulls out of the hat if he does it.
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My guess is that we don't push the button on that trade but it will be interesting to see what McD pulls out of the hat if he does it.
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he is a PF, i just don't think he's a very good one. thus, the reason I said "legit" PF.
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bingo. his role on the 2010 Suns WCF team was perfect until Lopez went down. Very good big man off the bench. mediocre at best starter.
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Although I'd say almost the same thing about Frye, I was actually talking about Young. Neither one of them can play power forward in a traditional offense/defense in the long run. But Frye fits our current style very well and in a way that Young cannot. He's considered a stretch 4 but he's not the 3 point shooter that Frye is. I think the phrase "I like him BUT" applies to both Young and Frye. I'd rather see us get bigger and stronger than simply swap one quasi-PF for another.
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No, not in the least. He would give us one more weapon, one more matchup problem which is hardly a bad thing. But you're right, we need a backup center that can really play the position. Ideally it would be one that could push Plumlee, perhaps inspire him to play with high intensity every night.
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that's why I'm not crazy about getting Young either.
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For those with League Pass, Minnesota is playing the Sixers, which may be interesting to watch- Young vs. Love, etc.
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You don't win championships by overpaying good but not great talent. The only legit star available is Love, other than that, keep our assets and wait until we can acquire a real star.
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How about something like a Bledsoe/Okafor for Carmelo trade? A starting lineup of Dragic, Green/Tucker, Melo, Frye and Plumlee would be potentially formidable. It would give us a good mid-range shooter, add inside scoring, increase our free points from the line and help with our rebounding. I don't really want to cheer for Carmelo and I find his style of offense boring but I can see how someone might see it as a great idea for us. I actually wouldn't hate the deal strictly from a win/loss perspective. What I would hate is giving up multiple draft picks and/or Goodwin for a player that might not want to stay with us for very long. I like Bledsoe a lot but unlike many here I'm not at all convinced we'll be able/willing to sign him. It WILL take the max.
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I would never want to see Melo on this team. He's a ball stopper. He's not what we're about. I just don't see him fitting into the vision that McDonough and Hornacek have for this team.
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Cross Luol Deng off the list. Well he was an All "Star".
Anyway, he's traded to CLE for Bynum and a 1st round pick along with two 2nd rd picks.
Anyway, he's traded to CLE for Bynum and a 1st round pick along with two 2nd rd picks.
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I like him in the sense that he can space the floor and run hard and is athletic enough for the team we are. He also has more of an offensive game than Frye. He has much more of an inside game than Frye and can drive in effectively. But defensively and rebounding wise, he really isn't much of an upgrade. And he's probably going to cost more than Frye when he opts out after next season so I don't know if I would trade anything valuable for him. If he can consistently put up 20pts+ a night then I wouldn't mind the defense and rebounding I guess.
I definitely wouldn't include Goodwin in any trade for him though.
I'll trust McDonough to make the right decision.
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Sixers tried to trade Evan Turner to draft Goodwin?
That's a trade I'd make pretty quickly. And I like Goodwin.
That's a trade I'd make pretty quickly. And I like Goodwin.
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That is interesting. They already have a guy in Tony Wroten whose game is pretty similar to Goodwin's
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