Why Verizon Wireless is the best. Period.

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Update...this is hilarious (imo). I had the phone less than 24 hours and already had 4 calls dropped. Never had such a problem with Sprint (unless I was at work, where no one gets reception). The phone itself is cool; I've been sick so I haven't really had a chance to dig into everything yet, but found it ironic now that I'm with Verizon my reception is much worse.
 

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Update...this is hilarious (imo). I had the phone less than 24 hours and already had 4 calls dropped. Never had such a problem with Sprint (unless I was at work, where no one gets reception). The phone itself is cool; I've been sick so I haven't really had a chance to dig into everything yet, but found it ironic now that I'm with Verizon my reception is much worse.

Not that big of a surprise. As I sit here typing this I am looking at both my cell phones. My personal sprint phone - 4 bars. My work Verizon - 1 bar.
 
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Update...this is hilarious (imo). I had the phone less than 24 hours and already had 4 calls dropped. Never had such a problem with Sprint (unless I was at work, where no one gets reception). The phone itself is cool; I've been sick so I haven't really had a chance to dig into everything yet, but found it ironic now that I'm with Verizon my reception is much worse.

Haven't played with the Touch Pro 2 yet. One of my employees loves his though.

Sorry for your issues. :-(

My guess is that the phone has something wrong with it. Happens more than people think with Windows mobile.

Almost like my TV. Usually they will break quickly if there is something wrong with it. If it doesn't break quickly, it will probably last a while.
 

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Wish I had the Touch Pro 2; my boss got it; I just have the 1st version. It's pretty cool so far...can't wait to check out the applications, though.
 

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In some rare cases, GSM signal will have better in building coverage based solely on the higher Mhz it operates at. Higher the Mhz, the more penetration it can get.

I'm not sure what brought on this thread of epic, homer-ism, fan-boy proportions on behalf of Verizon Wireless, but if it floats yer boat, go for it.

My one quibble is the info above. It is incorrect. And not that simple.

Just in terms of pure physics, your statement above is backwards. A higher frequency (MHz) radio signal will not penetrate a solid object as well as a lower frequency signal, all other things being equal. The 'other things being equal' part is the key here for purposes of cell phone reception conversations.

Both Verizon and AT&T in North America use 'dual-bands' throughout their networks. Basically, a higher frequency 'PCS' signal (1900MHz) and a lower frequency 'cellular' signal (850Mhz). The technology they use to provide service is different (GSM for AT&T vs CDMA for Verizon), but the frequencies are not.

The higher frequency 1900 MHz has a shorter, more compressed wavelength that does not travel as far distance-wise, and is more easily dispersed by obstacles like building walls. However, it has benefits like lower power requirements to transmit (leading to better battery life on the cell phone) and ability to carry traffic more efficiently in certain configurations.

Basically, quality of service is not about the signal frequency a cell network uses these days - it's about the network design, tuning and management relative to a given physical area and the user load.

That's why all the carriers vary so much across the country in terms of user experience. The local network dynamics and implementation have a HUGE impact on quality of service. Basically, if you are a cell customer of any company and your service stinks in your area, call them and complain. If enough people do in a given area, they have a reason to spend money to fix it.

That's why I don't have a horse in this race. I don't like VZ because of bad experiences with their customer service, and because they nickle and dime vs AT&T for me due to work discounts. On the other hand, while AT&T was solid in the places I went for many years, I have had call quality issues lately (probably due to Iphone data usage overloading the network). So, if it doesn't get better soon, I'll probably switch. If it gets better soon, I'll stay.

The decision is not based on 'Verizon rules and AT&T drools, man!' or vise-versa. It's good to have a competitive cellular industry in the US. The geographic distances in our country make it harder to deploy new tech as fast, and offer services as cheaply, as smaller areas like Europe and SE Asia. I wish things would roll out more quickly and service was cheaper, but it's still pretty impressive stuff even compared to a few years ago.
 

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I resisted the temptation to point that out myself.

I still remember wave tank experiments and watching longer wavelength waves ignoring the obstructions that are less than 1/2 the wavelength.

Higher frequency = shorter wavelength = more easily blocked.
 
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I resisted the temptation to point that out myself.

I still remember wave tank experiments and watching longer wavelength waves ignoring the obstructions that are less than 1/2 the wavelength.

Higher frequency = shorter wavelength = more easily blocked.
Yeah, your both right... I was an idiot and got that wrong. I apologize.

Has anyone seen the new "We got a map for that" commercials? It aired for the first time last night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2t94e_f0Ec

Whats funny is that if you go to AT&T's website.... Search 3G coverage.... They dont give you a map. They give you a city list.
Here it is: http://www.wireless.att.com/coverageviewer/popUp_3g.jsp#PA

If you click on the coverage viewer then click on the data link at the top it shows 2G and 3G data combined. When you click on the mobile TV link at the top of the page then you get a closer depiction of their 3G network.




Here are some stories for your perusal:

The Android army: Verizon Wireless, Google ink collaboration pact; Google Voice support on tap

http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=25460
From add campaign article above.....

The fine print also is worth checking out. It reads: "Browse the Web and download music and apps, at 3G speed, in five times more places than the nation's number two wireless carrier. Before you pick a phone, pick a network." As the exclusive carrier of the iPhone, AT&T has won new customers. But the network certainly has its fair share of critics, many who complain about dropped calls, missing text messages and other problems.
In fact, AT&T was recently ranked the worst wireless network in the west. (Tied with Sprint Nextel).

Click the link under the "recently ranked" words for another article....



Once again... Unemotional.... Verizon is dominant.
 
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I'm not sure what brought on this thread of epic, homer-ism, fan-boy proportions on behalf of Verizon Wireless, but if it floats yer boat, go for it.
Honestly, it's because they are leaps and bounds ahead of the pack. But in most isolated instances anything can be shined up to look pretty. Sprint, AT&T, iPhone users.... whoever. Seriously..... The battle is NOWHERE near close from a national perspective.

When you take emotions out of the equation, and you look at things from a 3000 foot view.... There really is no question who the best is.
 

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I'm convinced. Verizon wireless is the best. If a salaried member of their staff says so, it has to be true.
 

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Honestly, it's because they are leaps and bounds ahead of the pack. But in most isolated instances anything can be shined up to look pretty. Sprint, AT&T, iPhone users.... whoever. Seriously..... The battle is NOWHERE near close from a national perspective.

When you take emotions out of the equation, and you look at things from a 3000 foot view.... There really is no question who the best is.

Your right....Sprint. :D
 
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He does have a very valid point.

It would be valid if all I did was spout my opinion....

I am letting JD Power... Consumer Reports..... and the talking heads at all of the major tech websites do it for me.

I am just relaying an overwhelmingly powerful message.


as for the iPhone..... it is a rumor that we might next year. I honestly think the Android partnership might hurt those chances though.


Five reasons Google Android smartphones will beat iPhone, BlackBerry, WinMo

http://blogs.zdnet.com/gadgetreviews/?p=8126


iPhone Market Share Could More Than Double When Apple Drops AT&T Exclusivity (AAPL)

http://www.businessinsider.com/ipho...uble-when-apple-drops-att-exclusivity-2009-10
 
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Some more stuff folks.....

Triumphant In Customer Service, Coverage And Call Quality – PCMag.com, September 15, 2009
Verizon Wireless was recognized by PCMag.com readers as the leader in the magazine’s 2009 Cellular Service Providers Service & Reliability Survey. The Survey was based on the wireless provider’s traditional strengths of customer service, coverage, and call quality. Verizon Wireless was rated either better or significantly better than average on most measures.

Best In Call QualityJ.D. Power and Associates, August 27, 2009[FONT=&quot] [/FONT]
Verizon Wireless was recognized for the “Highest Call Quality Performance Among Wireless Cell Phone Users” in the Northeast, Mid-Atlantic, Southeast, Southwest and West regions in the J.D. Power and Associates 2009 Wireless Call Quality Performance StudySM, Volume 2. The study measured seven criteria that impact overall carrier performance: dropped calls; static/interference; failed connection on the first try; voice distortion; echoes; no immediate voicemail notification; and no immediate text message notification.

Best In Customer CareJ.D. Power and Associates, August 13, 2009
Verizon Wireless was recognized for providing the industry’s highest ranking customer care by J.D. Power and Associates in its 2009 Wireless Customer Care Performance StudySM, Volume 2. The Customer Care Performance Study, based on responses from more than 12,000 wireless subscribers who contacted customer care by phone, in stores or online within the past 12 months, provides a detailed report card on a semi-annual basis of wireless provider customer care performance.

Leader In Customer LoyaltyRedOrbit.com, August 6, 2009
For the nineteenth consecutive quarter, Verizon Wireless led the wireless industry in customer loyalty, according to data released by the nation’s largest wireless carriers. Verizon Wireless, the leading wireless company with the nation’s largest and most reliable wireless network, reported the lowest customer churn (turnover) in the second quarter of 2009.

Verizon Wireless MiFi 2200 Included In “Best Back-To-School GadgetsTime, July 31, 2009
Time Magazine included the MiFi 2200 from Verizon Wireless in its top 25 Back-to-School gadgets list. The article refers to the MiFi as students’ solution when in any “hotspot-free” zone.

“Fast And Consistent” 3G Service – PCWorld.com, June 28, 2009
PCWorld.com tested the major 3G services across the United States and reported that Verizon Wireless had the fastest download speeds in seven of the 13 test markets, more than any other carrier. Verizon Wireless’ speeds were described as “fast, consistent” and the service “showed a combination of speed and reliability.”

More Businesses Prefer Verizon WirelessJ.D. Power and Associates, May 21, 2009
Verizon Wireless ranked highest in both home office and small/midsize business customer satisfaction with wireless voice and data service in the J.D. Power and Associates 2009 Business Wireless Satisfaction StudySM. The study surveyed 2,618 U.S. businesses regarding overall customer satisfaction. In both the home-based business and small/midsize business segments, Verizon Wireless performed particularly well in five of six factors: performance/reliability, sales reps/account executives, billing, offerings/promotions and customer service

Survey Says Our Customers Are The Most Satisfied – ACSI, May 19, 2009
For the sixth consecutive year, Verizon Wireless led the industry in customer satisfaction in wireless phone service satisfaction in the American Customer Satisfaction Index (ACSI) survey. A powerful economic indicator, ACSI tracks trends in customer satisfaction and provides valuable benchmarking insights of the consumer economy for companies, industry trade associations, and government agencies.

We’ve Got The Best Full QWERTY PhonesInfoSync World.com, March 25, 2009
InfoSync World.com ranked “The Best Full QWERTY Phones for Consumers” and among those included on the list were the Verizon Wireless’ LG Versa, LG Voyager, Palm Centro, LG enV2, Samsung Glyde, and Blitz.

Best In Call Quality In The West J.D. Power and Associates, March 18, 2009
Verizon Wireless was recognized for the “Highest Call Quality Performance Among Wireless Cell Phone Users in the West Region,” in the J.D. Power and Associates 2009 Wireless Call Quality Performance Study SM – Volume 1. Verizon Wireless tied for first in this region, which includes Arizona, California, Colorado, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, Oregon, Utah, Washington and Wyoming. The study measured seven criteria that impact overall carrier performance: dropped calls; static/interference; failed connection on the first try; voice distortion; echoes; no immediate voicemail notification; and no immediate text message notification.

This one is my favorite.
Top Employer for Women in ArizonaArizona Woman Magazine (AZ), March 2009
Verizon Wireless was the only wireless carrier on Arizona Woman Magazine’s “Top 25 Workplaces for Women in Arizona” list. This is the company’s second consecutive year making the list.

Best Wireless Service In Tucson, ArizonaTucson Lifestyle (AZ), February 2009
Tucson Lifestyle’s “Best of Tucson Readers Picks 2009,” named Verizon Wireless “Best Wireless Service” provider in Tucson, Arizona.
 
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Had one of these in my hands today. Amazing. Simply Amazing. Since I have held both devices they seemed rather close to each other. I enjoyed the web browsing and the ability to really customize my desktop. The camera was crisp and the Car Mount made it turn into a GPS looking device. That was really cool.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/174609/verizon_droid_5_standout_features.html

Verizon Droid: 5 Standout Features

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Well, gang, it's official: Verizon's Motorola Droid smartphone is on its way into the world. The Droid, unveiled Wednesday, will hit store shelves on November 6 with a $199.99 price tag, after a $100 mail-in rebate and with a new two-year contract.
The phone is the first to run Google's brand new Android 2.0 operating system, and it packs plenty of punch not previously seen on the smartphone market. Not surprisingly, plenty of people are already speculating whether it'll put a dent in the sales of that other high-profile device (you know, the one whose manufacturer is occasionally compared to a communist regime).
 
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Nice Review Here:

http://www.pcworld.com/reviews/product/324707/review/droid.html

Motorola is quick to point out that the Droid's 480-by-854-pixel display offers 409,920 pixels, more than double the 153,600 pixels that the 480-by-320-pixel, 3.5-inch screen on the iPhone 3GS offers. The Droid's resolution also compares well against that of Android 1.6-based phones such as T-Mobile's myTouch 3G, which has a 3.2-inch, 480-by-320-pixel display.

The phone provided excellent call quality, even in a New York hotel lobby full of noisy Phillies fans headed to Yankee Stadium for the World Series. Parties on the other end of my calls reported no problems.
Especially snappy is the Droid's Web browser, which loads images quickly thanks to the powerful 550MHz processor and speedy hardware-accelerated graphics. Though you are at the mercy of your 3G high-speed data network coverage, once you're in it, Web surfing is breezy and smooth. Video from sites such as YouTube looks equally impressive; the playback of a high-definition YouTube cartoon ("Sita Sings the Blues") was excellent, with no stalling or audio dropouts. Audio also sounded great piped through a pair of high-quality headphones. The straightforward music player supports playlist building, album art, and shuffle and loop playback modes. You can purchase DRM-free music at the Amazon MP3 store via the preloaded app on the device.

Another nice touch is how the Droid interacts with its accessories. When you place it in its car-window mount (sold separately; price not yet announced), the Droid automatically enters "Car Home" mode, in which it looks more like a stand-alone GPS device. Large icons labeled View Map, Navigation, Voice Search, Contacts, Search, and Home fill the screen, and the display rotates as needed.
 
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Not really sure I can fully answer that question. There are definately thousands of apps.

Today, in training, we went the the App marketplace and it was HUGE. Most for free, some for a buck or so.

Some were dumb fun, some were instructional, and some were freaking amazing.

Anyone heard of Google Sky?

I played with the new ABSOLUTELY FREE GPS system loaded on the Moto Droid. Crazy cool.

How cool you ask? Check this out... http://www.electronista.com/articles/09/10/28/google.maps.helps.gps.maker.stock.crash/

Garmin, TomTom stock tanks due to Android, results

Maps Navigation is so far ready only for Android 2.0 smartphones but is already expected to have a significant impact on sales of dedicated GPS units. While high-end GPS units often have much larger screens and other features that would be impractical for smartphones, sales of low-end mapping devices risk being cannibalized as more frugal buyers opt to use their smartphones instead. Verizon's heavy promotion of the Motorola Droid, which has a dedicated driving mode known as Car Home, is expected to spur demand for the free option; Google has already said it plans to integrate Maps Navigation into the iPhone.
Apple was about to launch a GPS feature for the iPhone. Word is, it would cost about $100 for this accessory that would turn the iPhone into a GPS unit. Apparently Apple would get 30% of the profits from the accessory sales. Well, Google's free GPS announcement cost Apple MILLIONS in revenue now that there is a free option on the table.

When Google announced what is clearly the best car navigation application on any mobile today, it didn't just take a swipe at GPS navigation companies such as Garmin and TomTom. It took a swipe at Apple.
Beyond the advanced features of the Google Maps Navigation app (voice search, crowdsourced traffic data, Street View navigation), what makes the app noteworthy is that it launched on Google's own Android phones first rather than on the iPhone. By doing so, Google is putting Apple on notice that it is no longer reserving its best apps for the iPhone.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/28/AR2009102804124.html

Google is changing the face of open development.

Also... The voice google search tool on any android phone is FRAKING FAST DUDE. I hit the button, it said speak now, I said, "Pizza (spoke zip code)" and it brought up all the pizza joints in my area. I hit the address of the local domino's.... In less than 5 seconds google maps was up, and it was asking me if I wanted to nav to it. Or call it. Or send it an email. Or go to domino's website and place an online order. SICK.
 
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Look at that GPS MAPPING APP SCREEN SHOT!!!

ARE YOU FREAKING KIDDING ME????!!!!!!??????!!!!

There is a video embedded in this link.... WATCH IT!
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/10/2...ps-navigation-google-maps-navigation-android/

If you weren’t sure about switching to an Android phone in the near future, this might put you over the edge. Google Maps Navigation is an absolutely killer app. And it is only available for Android 2.0 phones. Today is Droid day
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, and for the most part Google is taking a backseat and letting their partners get most of the attention. But Droid is the first Android phone to run Android 2.0, and Google Maps Navigation is clearly the early trophy app for those devices.
The application is also completely free. So all those paid navigation apps (Navigon, TomTom
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and Sygic Mobile) are at an immediate disadvantage.
But even if Google charged for this app, it would still win hands down. The features include easy search (no need for address), voice search, traffic information (from data sources and crowd sourced from app), and street view close up pictures when you get near your destination. And the car dock mode gives bigger, simpler icons and auto-voice mode (see video):
 

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I am convinced that anytime has a similar man crush with verizon as the late poster known as andrew has with shaq. I know u work for them and think they are the best and post a million articles about how they are the best that I would be surprised if anyone on here even reads but isn't there a line that has been crossed with your undying love for verizon??
 
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It's not undying. Trust me. I have many issues.

The tide is turning on what might be the most over rated piece of marketing trash in the history of electronics.

And the evidence is more than overwhelming. From the 3000 foot view. There is no better service in America. Period.

I am just amazed that the homers attack me instead of proving me wrong. The iPhone seems to have people in some sort of comatose state.

And of course, price is an issue as well (some people live with Sprint & T-mobile for this reason). My main points are to accost iPhone users with fact. And then watch them attack with emotion.

The "Map for That" campaign strikes at the core of what I have been saying for months.

Choose your network before you choose your device.
 
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