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My son is 7 and he is a hardcore gamer already. My daughter is 9 and she isn't into gaming as much. However they both were pretty excited about getting this one. I'll let you know how they do with it. I got it because they can both play it together.


I have a 5 yr old son who struggles but plays and a 12 year old daughter who can play pretty much anything well.

Ill most likely let them stick to lego for now but im playing gta5 so I need my 360 back :)


We should make new thread for different games, this thread reminds me of the suns forum.
 
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Young ones will probably really like it. Me, I couldn't play it for more than an hour before and it is going back. Multiplayer is slow; you can't run.

It is definitely different, it just doesn't appeal to me at all. Shame because I thought I would get into it.


surprised they went away from tower defence, it looks like more of a horde mode now?
 

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surprised they went away from tower defence, it looks like more of a horde mode now?

It is just call of duty type modes. (that I could see) If it had tower defense type of campaign, I would be playing that instead of shipping it back.
 

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I have a 5 yr old son who struggles but plays and a 12 year old daughter who can play pretty much anything well.

Ill most likely let them stick to lego for now but im playing gta5 so I need my 360 back :)


We should make new thread for different games, this thread reminds me of the suns forum.

Well I couldn't get the Xbox Kinect Sensor to recognize my daughter last night and totally forgot her password and she got locked out. Then I couldn't remember the email that I used to set her up (so many cuss words were flying last night that I made CoD look tame). I spent way too long trying to figure out her info but finally just gave up and created a new account for her. Thus we didn't have too much time to play after all of that.
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We did play several games of the Co-op split screen mode before she had to go to bed. Basically you and your partner try to protect your garden from increasingly more difficult zombie waves. We had fun and I was able to gain most of the new abilities for almost all of the 4 different plant classes.

One thing that sucks is that only Player 1 gets upgraded/earns coins. Player 2 is pretty much a guest and is limited to whatever Player 1 has unlocked. So if my daughter wants to play today without me, she needs to unlock everything again for her account.

Also it took me a while to figure out where to get the support plants that you can plant in the pots to help you out. Basically you can use the coins that you win at the end of a game to purchase "sticker packs". When you open the packs you get a bunch of special cards that include support plants, customizable items for your plants, etc. The kids really enjoyed buying the packs and opening them up to see what we got.

I did like that it was a team effort with the Co-op mode. My daughter was giggling the entire time as she launched exploding chilli beans and dropped potato mines. For a shooter game it was very tame with all of the cartoonish looking characters.

Not sure if it is worth $40. However with so few games currently on the XBox One that are appropriate for younger kids I didn't mind paying the price for this one.
 
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Well I couldn't get the Xbox Kinect Sensor to recognize my daughter last night and totally forgot her password and she got locked out. Then I couldn't remember the email that I used to set her up (so many cuss words were flying last night that I made CoD look tame). I spent way too long trying to figure out her info but finally just gave up and created a new account for her. Thus we didn't have too much time to play after all of that.
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We did play several games of the Co-op split screen mode before she had to go to bed. Basically you and your partner try to protect your garden from increasingly more difficult zombie waves. We had fun and I was able to gain most of the new abilities for almost all of the 4 different plant classes.

One thing that sucks is that only Player 1 gets upgraded/earns coins. Player 2 is pretty much a guest and is limited to whatever Player 1 has unlocked. So if my daughter wants to play today without me, she needs to unlock everything again for her account.

Also it took me a while to figure out where to get the support plants that you can plant in the pots to help you out. Basically you can use the coins that you win at the end of a game to purchase "sticker packs". When you open the packs you get a bunch of special cards that include support plants, customizable items for your plants, etc. The kids really enjoyed buying the packs and opening them up to see what we got.

I did like that it was a team effort with the Co-op mode. My daughter was giggling the entire time as she launched exploding chilli beans and dropped potato mines. For a shooter game it was very tame with all of the cartoonish looking characters.

Not sure if it is worth $40. However with so few games currently on the XBox One that are appropriate for younger kids I didn't mind paying the price for this one.


thanks for the review, maybe ill let them stick to lego until this goes on sale.

I have been having issues with gamertags suddenly asking for passwords too, whats up with that? I have a random guest account I made and a neighbor kid was over and I signed him into that and have no idea what the password is. Thankfully I know the password to our main 4 accounts.
 

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I have been having issues with gamertags suddenly asking for passwords too, whats up with that? I have a random guest account I made and a neighbor kid was over and I signed him into that and have no idea what the password is. Thankfully I know the password to our main 4 accounts.

Yeah it must have been a new patch or something. I have no idea what I made my kids passwords or their bogus emails that I created for their accounts. That was way back in November and I can barely remember my own passwords.

I did notice that I was able to create a new account for my daughter on the XBox without an email address for her this time around.



As for Plants vs Zombies. As expected my daughter got home last night and tried to play it with her friend and it asked for her Origin account info to sign in. Obviously she doesn't have that so I now have to make her one. Kind of a pain in the a$$ and yet another account and password I have to deal with.
 
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Yeah it must have been a new patch or something. I have no idea what I made my kids passwords or their bogus emails that I created for their accounts. That was way back in November and I can barely remember my own passwords.

I did notice that I was able to create a new account for my daughter on the XBox without an email address for her this time around.



As for Plants vs Zombies. As expected my daughter got home last night and tried to play it with her friend and it asked for her Origin account info to sign in. Obviously she doesn't have that so I now have to make her one. Kind of a pain in the a$$ and yet another account and password I have to deal with.


for stuff like this that doesnt need to be secure, use your mobile number as the password. That way you can give it to guests without concerns. I do this with my wifi as well.

Worst case ill just make a new guest account.
 

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for stuff like this that doesnt need to be secure, use your mobile number as the password. That way you can give it to guests without concerns. I do this with my wifi as well.

Worst case ill just make a new guest account.

Yeah I made easy passwords that we won't forget for the kids. The Passwords weren't a problem when the Kinect sensor always recognized the kids when they walked into the room. It was just recently that it started asking for their passwords that we hadn't used since I set the system up. Not sure what changed but I just had the same issue with my sons account. Maybe my kids are growing too fast.
 
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Yeah I made easy passwords that we won't forget for the kids. The Passwords weren't a problem when the Kinect sensor always recognized the kids when they walked into the room. It was just recently that it started asking for their passwords that we hadn't used since I set the system up. Not sure what changed but I just had the same issue with my sons account. Maybe my kids are growing too fast.


I changed rooms for my xbox and it never seems to recognise anyone anymore. Maybe something changed in the update too. I thought it was just the room but I have used the i wasnt recognized thing like 6 times now and it still doesnt recognise me.
 

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Update on "Plants Vs Zombies"

OK, after I got the kids accounts (Xbox and Origin) all sorted out, they can now get into the game with no issues.

It's now my 7 year old boys favorite game and even my 9 year old girl is having fun with it. I've played the split screen co-op mode with him several times over the weekend and it was pretty fun. He is obsessed with unlocking new "Sticker Packs".

When I don't play with him he plays online doing the "Garden Ops" mode. Basically it's like the Split Scren Co-op mode but with up to 3 other people On-line.

We haven't tried the Multi-Player mode yet.
 

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Wife bought me one on Saturday. Got 2 games: Ryse and Thief. Took Ryse 2 hours to load on the machine.

I noticed on the official XBOX site that they were having connectivity issues with the network that day. Think that would impact the load times? Especially since I had bought the discs?
 
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Wife bought me one on Saturday. Got 2 games: Ryse and Thief. Took Ryse 2 hours to load on the machine.

I noticed on the official XBOX site that they were having connectivity issues with the network that day. Think that would impact the load times? Especially since I had bought the discs?


I would say a new disc install usually takes under 30 minutes, if not about 10 minutes as it typically lets you start gaming before the disc is actually installed. If it took longer that could simply be an xbox issue that day or possibly a weak wifi connection to your xbox.

I assume the install time is what you are talking about.
 

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I would say a new disc install usually takes under 30 minutes, if not about 10 minutes as it typically lets you start gaming before the disc is actually installed. If it took longer that could simply be an xbox issue that day or possibly a weak wifi connection to your xbox.

I assume the install time is what you are talking about.

I surely doesn't install to the hard drive wirelessly, so the WIFI connection can't be the reason. (unless it was installing some Xbox updates, but I doubt that is the reason either.

2 hours seems really long. Like BRR said, it will let you play the game off of the disc after a small portion has been installed.

I wonder if you have that problem with Thief.
 
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I surely doesn't install to the hard drive wirelessly, so the WIFI connection can't be the reason. (unless it was installing some Xbox updates, but I doubt that is the reason either.
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good call, didnt even consider that.

Also, if issues persist, hold down the power button on the front of the box for 30 seconds to do a full reboot, that seems to fix most problems that come with the box.

Different games have different install sizes, Ryse's could simply be massive.

Hopefully they fix the issue in the future but its very annoying to pick up a new disc, throw it in and have to wait to play.
 

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Also, if issues persist, hold down the power button on the front of the box for 30 seconds to do a full reboot, that seems to fix most problems that come with the box.

I have to do this almost daily to fix the various issues that occur with this system (doesn't recognize tv input, sometimes tv just blacks out but can I still here sound, kinect powers on and off for no reason, kinect won't accept voice commands, won't read discs-this happens way too much, etc). I can live with some of the problems for now, as I know the technology is new and ever changing. However, the fact that my machine has so many issues reading discs is concerning for me since I had to replace 4 or 5 360's for the same reason.
 
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I have to do this almost daily to fix the various issues that occur with this system (doesn't recognize tv input, sometimes tv just blacks out but can I still here sound, kinect powers on and off for no reason, kinect won't accept voice commands, won't read discs-this happens way too much, etc). I can live with some of the problems for now, as I know the technology is new and ever changing. However, the fact that my machine has so many issues reading discs is concerning for me since I had to replace 4 or 5 360's for the same reason.


the black screen with sound issue is a known bug since the last update so hopefully they are working on that already.

I have not run into those other issues you mentioned except once the kinect wouldnt power on and that was a month or two ago. The kinect doesnt hear me all the time but I also noticed if you dont do xbox turn off, than xbox on wont work. is had to be in sleep mode vs off for it to work.

It also stopped recognising me lately but I think it may also be a glitch with the new february update. There is already a march update too so hopefully things keep improving. While they dropped the ball as far as being as savvy as the 360 was, they seem to really be on the ball with updates and improving the user experience so heres to hoping that keeps up!!!

I thought the consoles would sell out and dissapear for 6 months and then be scarce like the last launch did. If there is anything this launch taught me its that manufacturing is far ahead of where it was ten years ago and you dont HAVE to preorder new consoles to get them in the first 6 months.

Also, I havent had a disc issue but hopefully your warranty covers that if it remains. My buddy at work got a 3 year warranty on his for extra costs after buying it from the microsoft store. May be something you should look into as well. I only have 2 discs but neither one has given me any problems.
 

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I thought the consoles would sell out and dissapear for 6 months and then be scarce like the last launch did. If there is anything this launch taught me its that manufacturing is far ahead of where it was ten years ago and you dont HAVE to preorder new consoles to get them in the first 6 months.

At Costco yesterday there was an entire pallet of them for sale.
 

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At Costco yesterday there was an entire pallet of them for sale.

I was at Taget over the weekend and they had a bunch, but no PS4s. I am not sure how stock is elsewhere, but a guy walked up and asked for a PS4, the sales rep said they were out and was not sure of the next drop ship, so the guy walked out with a XBox One.
 

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My buddy at work got a 3 year warranty on his for extra costs after buying it from the microsoft store. May be something you should look into as well. I only have 2 discs but neither one has given me any problems.

Good point. I am going to see if I can do this and what the cost is.
 

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good call, didnt even consider that.

Also, if issues persist, hold down the power button on the front of the box for 30 seconds to do a full reboot, that seems to fix most problems that come with the box.

Different games have different install sizes, Ryse's could simply be massive.

Hopefully they fix the issue in the future but its very annoying to pick up a new disc, throw it in and have to wait to play.

I dont remember it taking more than about 20 minutes to install Ryse.
 
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we were out of town for a week and when we got home my daughter wanted to play xbox. every single game she clocked on needed an update and by the time games were updated so she could play it was time to eat and get ready for bed.

They should really fix that. It seems quite often I turn on my box to get in a quick session and instead everything you want to play needs a 10 minute update before it lets you play.

We also didnt have the system update and it forced that on us right away. (I unplug everything when i leave so it couldnt do it while the xbox was powered down)
 
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The first XBOX ONE game worth of my money since my launch purchases. According to Metacritic Titanfall is burning up the reviews. Average score of 87 right now.

http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/titanfall


My experience with it told me that it is a solid game and will do well. I'm sticking with COD and GTA for now but if you want a new game, titanfall is worth the price of admission.
 

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Played the beta version on PC. Fun, but vastly overrated. While we all know companies hype stuff, the hype for this game is so unrealistic. Phil Spencer is quoted as saying..

TF will set a MP look/feel/gameplay bar the rest of us will be trying to match for some time.

Graphics wise it uses the source engine (think Valve/Steam and Half Life 2, Team Fortress 2, Left 4 Dead). So basically the graphics are pretty crappy. The art direction is quite nice, which make the last gen feel a bit better. There are some cool little nooks and crannies to jump onto with some interesting pathways around the map, so that's pretty good. So if you can stand 'next' gen looking like last gen at slightly better graphics and resolution then previous gen consoles, that's what this is. But if you've played a PC game from 2008 or newer you've seen much, much, much better looking graphics.

The PC version has better graphics, but again, since it uses the source engine, it still looks like a game from 2007 or so. It has higher resolution options, better framerate, and an 'insane textures' option. You won't need a powerful computer to run this game at some level.

This game will run on this sort of PC, which is really old tech.
According to Zampella, Titanfall will run on Windows PCs equipped with and AMD X2 2.8GHz or Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz, 4GB of RAM, 512MB of video RAM, and a Radeon HD 4770 or GeForce 8800GT graphics card.

The Xbox One version runs the game at 792p (most likely 1408x792), medium textures, and has some pretty serious framerate issues. When the beta was tested it ranged from 34-60 FPS, and some are reporting that the final version was seen having rare moments of framerate drop in or near the singe digit territory. An absolute travesty of a performance considering the dated engine and being on a new console, but the Xbox One will never be confused as powerful by anyone and you know what you get if you buy one.

Digital foundry will probably do a framerate analysis like they did with the beta, so if you're interested watch their video on this when they've done it. But if 60 FPS is necessary for you in a competitive first person shooter game, and for many it is, and with reason, then the PC version is the only option.

Unfortunately because it uses a modified version of the 2004 Source Engine, there are no destructible environments. Which is a big bummer. Also you can't shoot through walls (like think bullet penetration in CoD...none of that), but can shoot through holes or openings and hit people inside.

There are also issues with the 'cloud' as sometimes there are hitches in the AI and they appear and disappear in different locations from time to time...at least I saw it fairly often in the PC beta. The cloud is very unimpressive at least with the beta.

They promised wall-running, but it isn't wall running but parkour like Mirror's Edge where you run up the side of the wall sideways like for a max of a couple of seconds. This was a big letdown. But there are uses and you can chain the parkours together along with a double jump and get to those nooks and crannies I mentioned earlier. But this isn't Saints Row, Assassin's Creed wall running/climbing in any way.

They promised maps with lots of verticality, but that's simply not the case. You can get up on buildings and such but it's more like buildings that are 2-3 stories high, maybe a tad higher, (so basically like any other last gen shooter) but nothing like say Battlefield 4 where you can get up on huge buildings, which also are destructible (and planes/choppers fly above those even).

So compared to BF3/BF4 maps, the buildings are like 1/10th the height with no areas to fly planes or anything like that. So again this was a letdown. If you are on top of the buildings you can use the buildings (and how they're indestructible) to more easily kill titans with your solider's anti-titan weapon.

So I can see what they were saying, and by running up high you are less likely to killed by titans or even confront other players, but it should've been worded differently because the maps are not big or have much height. Again this was a big let down as I was expecting some big buildings an environments, and it simply isn't.

The mechs don't hover. Yeah that was another big letdown. So you walk or run (boost) around a map and can't hover over buildings or anything. Most games with mechs I've ever seen have them with either outright flying capability or at least some sort of boost, so this part sucks. Hawken has better mechs and more of them and it's a free to play game.

You can imagine when I heard wall running, verticality, and mechs the game was completely different and inferior to what I and many people were thinking as each of these aspects is quite different then advertised.

They ripped off the rodeo (jumping on a Mech and damaging it) from Binary domain, but it's a cool feature nonetheless and helps keep pilots on foot another ability to take out mechs. So it's a cool addition.

The AI is dumb as dirt, and then suddenly with your back turned they start shooting you after standing around doing nothing for a long time. There is an aspect that if you have a hack tool you can hack one kind of them. They can then help you.

But for the most part the AI is utterly useless and completely stupid in a game like this. Lots of times you'll be shooting them, and someone real sees you and you die a cheap death. Or vice versa you see someone distracted by them and you get a cheap kill. They're a distraction and absolutely dumb as dirt. In the end you'll try to simply learn how to spot them quickly and just avoid them. But sometimes that too gets in the way because you'll ignore a human. They keep saying the AI is only possible with the power of the cloud, and that's just complete nonsense. (especially again the hitches in gameplay caused by the cloud lagging and bots not being where they should be all of a sudden)

6v6 is also not good. I can like big and small games. I like 32-64 in Battlefield but prefer the smaller amount of players like in Killzone. But in a game such as this the low playercount really hurts as if most players are in titans, you have a venerable wasteland of few human players on the ground.

Many times during the beta I went running around capping hardpoint after hardpoint and no one stopped me. Eventually someone in a Titan might show up to spoil the party, but it seemed quite lifeless many times and this game would have been much better served with a higher playcount that limited the number of mechs at any given time. So like 10v10 or 12v12 but only 6v6 max Titans at any given time.

So it sucks when people are farming bots, some are setting up as snipers, and others are in mechs, it really does sometimes leave a wasteland. Perhaps some of the other maps make this less of an issue, perhaps even more so. We'll see.

Also the Xbox One version suffers from screen tearing, which is absolutely horrible. Screen tearing makes it really hard to see, but the PC version has vsync which stops this. This too is a big reason to get the PC version.

The reviews are absolutely padded horsecrap. It's like they feel sorry for XB1. It's like they feel it's good to get people who gave up on first person shooters another chance to enjoy the genre and are rewarding them. It's sad though these fake journalists don't mention or don't discount the game's review scores and overlook these MAJOR issues and flaws with the game, whereas in other games they will crucify the score of other games for any ONE of these issues, and Titanfall has a bunch as I've laid out. Double standards aren't good.

Respawn said 'framerate is king', but a first person shooter that can't maintain 60 FPS, especially with such a dated engine and unimpressive visuals should easily be discounted because not having 60 FPS in a competitive multiplayer game is the biggest sin there is. They are even still saying there might be a 1080p patch for the XB1, but that is a pipe dream when it doesn't even run well on at 792p on the XB1.

Also the game is online-only with no multiplayer, yet at full $60 price, and no one docked it for this as well.

This game is a 5-6 on Xbox One and a 7 tops on PC (because the screen tearing, the crappy framerate, and higher resolution and textures aren't there if you have a decent system build in the last five years). Not to mention all the flaws and limitations by utilizing the Source engine when other FPS use much more modern engines that add quite a bit to the gameplay that this game lacks.

But that doesn't mean it's not fun. It is sort of fun, and in some ways quite good. I enjoyed the beta. I bought it. I am preloading it now for PC, but it's sickening people are either willfully ignorant of the issues or are outright lying for one reason or another about the game being 'the best ever', 'revolutionary', and 'setting a new bar'. Complete bs. I enjoyed BF4, CoD, and KZ alot more then Titanfall, but since I like FPS/TPS it's worth a spot in the rotation.

Games can be 4-5 and I/others can enjoy them, and yet the reviews are rightly critical that they are 4-5, and this game should be one of those games that is decent fun, but has yet to be viewed or scored critically.

Groupthink based on hype is influencing the scores. This game is rightly a 5-7 depending on platform. With such a score, it can still be very enjoyable for some people, but when you look at the game and all its warts, its warts should be graded like any other game is. It's false to have a double standard and this game has one. Because yes, this game could of been a lot better, and a lot more fun if they didn't have so many things holding it back.

It's also on the 360 but we haven't seen any screens. Is that because it's a far poorer version? Maybe. Is it because it might not be that much more inferior from the XB1 version? Perhaps. We'll find out in a couple of weeks what's up with it.

There are some good things with the game as well. Mech combat is pretty satisfying. I mentioned the nooks and crannies you can get to, which is nice. There are nice sightlines, especially with the mechs in mind.

Maps are creative and nicely laid out, (the beta ones at least), but the 10 year old tech running the game REALLY holds them back. There's 15 maps, and that's a nice number of maps these days, but with no single player there should be extra maps. There's supposed to be dinosaurs or monsters, but they weren't in the beta. This could be cool. There's ziplines and stuff, so that's cool. Mechs still have some decent things going on with them, and mech battles are generally fun. Shooting out of a mech and landing on another and rodeo'ing them is pretty cool.

I like how if your team loses you try to evacuate, and I guess there is supposed to be maybe some more aspects of that.

This game definitely can improve in later iterations if they fix what's wrong and make the sequel on Source 2 engine or Frostbite 3 or Cryengine 3 or Unreal 4 Engine. It's a good first outing, with some pretty major quirks and drawbacks, but it definitely will be a new IP that has a number of sequels coming after it. The best is yet to come, it's just sad they over-promised and under-delivered, and reviewers are ignoring reality.

Overall if you have an XB1, and no PC. Buy the XB1 version. If you have a choice. Get the PC version. If all you have is an 360, well, we'll see. But if it ends up being not much worse, just buy it on the 360.

The game is decent fun, but in no way revolutionary. BF3 was a major leap forward compared to CoD, and Titanfall simply can't compete with it on so many levels. But it's fun and worth a purchase on some platform. I just don't suggest buying a new console specifically for it. This is no Halo game.

Enjoy the game though, and if you play the PC version, perhaps we'll play against each other some time :)

(oh and if you have an Nvidia card, the new 335.23 drivers are out and are the first ones that officially support the game, so don't forget to update them)
 

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OK. Way too much for me to read. You pretty much summed it up here "The game is decent fun, but in no way revolutionary." and "But it's fun and worth a purchase on some platform.". LOL.

Just a couple points. Resolution gate is crap. It's the game play that matter no matter which console or platform you use. That's why the game is getting high scores. You are entitled to your opinion but many reviewers rated higher.

Also, PC gaming has many virtues but it has many headaches you don't have to worry about with console gaming. I love PC gaming as well but bottom line is if you are getting a console, your not buying it to compete with a high end gaming rig anyway.
 

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