Your Arizona Cardinals now hold the 16th pick in the 2025 NFL Draft

[Harry]

Here is my list of options at #16. No particular order here. Some of these guys will very likely be selected before 16. This may be a little high for some of the players, but it is early in the process.

DL
Mason Graham - Michigan
Kenneth Grant - Michigan
Walter Nolen - Ole Miss
Derrick Harmon - Oregon
Omar Norman-Lott - Tennessee
Shemar Stewart - Texas A&M

EDGE
Abdul Carter - Penn St
James Pearce Jr - Tennessee
Jalon Walker - Georgia
Mike Green - Marshall
Mykel Williams - Georgia
Princely Umanmielen - Ole Miss

EDIT: Point of note. I don't rate any of the OL options as better options. They may rank similarly, but the current roster and positional value bumps them. Same with WR and CB. Also, Malaki Starks and Ashton Jeanty could be available when the Cardinals picks and would be better prospects but not an option IMO.

I like your top 3 DTs. I’d put Harmon before Nolen who’s mostly an anchor. I think Umanmielen is the most undevalued Edge; most versatile.

 

[DVontel]

Shemar Stewart @Chopper0080

 

[BirdGangThing]

Here is my list of options at #16. No particular order here. Some of these guys will very likely be selected before 16. This may be a little high for some of the players, but it is early in the process.

DL
Mason Graham - Michigan
Kenneth Grant - Michigan
Walter Nolen - Ole Miss
Derrick Harmon - Oregon
Omar Norman-Lott - Tennessee
Shemar Stewart - Texas A&M

EDGE
Abdul Carter - Penn St
James Pearce Jr - Tennessee
Jalon Walker - Georgia
Mike Green - Marshall
Mykel Williams - Georgia
Princely Umanmielen - Ole Miss

EDIT: Point of note. I don't rate any of the OL options as better options. They may rank similarly, but the current roster and positional value bumps them. Same with WR and CB. Also, Malaki Starks and Ashton Jeanty could be available when the Cardinals picks and would be better prospects but not an option IMO.

are we concerned about graham/grant and walker/williams benefiting off each other?

 

[Chopper0080]

are we concerned about graham/grant and walker/williams benefiting off each other?

I would be with Walker and Williams over Graham and Grant. Just having watched them.

 

[Chopper0080]

Shemar Stewart @Chopper0080

Looks a lot like a Darius Robinson clone with maybe a bit more burst. I like him as I liked DRob last year. I don't know about having two guys that similar on the same line. Seems like it would make you very light up front. Shemar is a bit frustrating to watch because he really struggles to finish sacks.

 

[Chopper0080]

Sheduer Sanders
Kyle McCord
Kenneth Grant
Nick Nash
JImmy Horn Jr
Luke Lachey
Nazir Stackhouse

are all on the East/West Shrine game roster. a nice group to watch next week.

 

[TheCardFan]

Sheduer Sanders
Kenneth Grant

Seems weird they didn't get invited or didn't accept invite to Senior Bowl vs East/West

 

[Chopper0080]

Seems weird they didn't get invited or didn't accept invite to Senior Bowl vs East/West

I was surprised as well.

 

[DVontel]

If Kyzir walks

And I’m usually opposed to ILB in the first two rounds


But if Carson Schwesinger is there in the 2nd, which he most likely will be


I would really have to think about it

 

[CardNots]

If Kyzir walks

And I’m usually opposed to ILB in the first two rounds


But if Carson Schwesinger is there in the 2nd, which he most likely will be


I would really have to think about it

as much as the team has failed at identifying a stud LB talent I would love one or two

 

[Stout]

If Kyzir walks

And I’m usually opposed to ILB in the first two rounds


But if Carson Schwesinger is there in the 2nd, which he most likely will be


I would really have to think about it

Man, that would be high for an ILB. I don't know the prospect but, if YOU like a high pick ILB, I'm figuring he must be legit. It would be peak Monti to let Kyzir walk, do little to nothing to replace him in FA, and then force our hand in the draft. Of course, with the D, he might just ignore it altogether lol

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Mock from SI that has Pearce from TN coming to the desert.

2025 NFL Mock Draft 5.0: First-Round Predictions for Every Team

Titans, Giants upgrade at quarterback, Patriots get an explosive wide receiver, and the Jaguars add one of Colorado’s stars.

www.si.com

Interesting that SI lists our biggest needs as Edge, DL, and..... WR? wow...

 

[Stout]

Mock from SI that has Pearce from TN coming to the desert.

2025 NFL Mock Draft 5.0: First-Round Predictions for Every Team

Titans, Giants upgrade at quarterback, Patriots get an explosive wide receiver, and the Jaguars add one of Colorado’s stars.

www.si.com

Interesting that SI lists our biggest needs as Edge, DL, and..... WR? wow...

Sanders going before Hunter makes me lol

 

[TheCardFan]

Sanders going before Hunter makes me lol

Agreed. It feels like Carter and Hunter are the two best players by far and should go #1 and #2.

 

[Chopper0080]

Agreed. It feels like Carter and Hunter are the two best players by far and should go #1 and #2.

Hunter is a bit interesting when you consider how he would need to be utilized to justify that investment.

 

[Ronin]

Daniel Jeremiah's 1st mock draft has pass rusher headed to Cardinals

Check out what player the Cardinals get in Daniel Jeremiah’s first mock draft of the year.

cardswire.usatoday.com

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Um we were eliminated against Carolina. So yeah, weird.

We technically were not eliminated with the Carolina loss, but we pretty much were.

 

[Cheesebeef]

We technically were not eliminated with the Carolina loss, but we pretty much were.

What are you talking about? We were eliminated from the playoffs after we lost technically, literally and any other way, shape or form.

If you don’t believe me, take it straight from the Cardinals mouth:

Cardinals See Playoff Hopes End With Loss In Carolina

“Yet there was a palpable sting resonating in the visitors locker room Sunday at Bank of America Stadium, after the Cardinals unexpectedly and frustratingly lost to the Panthers, 36-30, in overtime to see their playoff hopes end. The Rams had already won in in New York against the Jets, a combination that killed off any postseason talk.”

The Rams won their game before ours ended in a L in OT. The moment we lost, the playoffs were a complete and utter impossibility in every way.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

What are you talking about? We were eliminated from the playoffs after we lost technically, literally and any other way, shape or form.

If you don’t believe me, take it straight from the Cardinals mouth:

Cardinals See Playoff Hopes End With Loss In Carolina

“Yet there was a palpable sting resonating in the visitors locker room Sunday at Bank of America Stadium, after the Cardinals unexpectedly and frustratingly lost to the Panthers, 36-30, in overtime to see their playoff hopes end. The Rams had already won in in New York against the Jets, a combination that killed off any postseason talk.”

The Rams won their game before ours ended in a L in OT. The moment we lost, the playoffs were a complete and utter impossibility in every way.

I'm fully willing to admit that I might be wrong here, but I thought at the time, there was albeit rare scenario in which all 3 teams (Us, Rams, Seahawks) could have had a record of 9-7. Seattle would have been eliminated first out of the tiebreaker due to only have a 3-3 division record. We then would have had the tiebreaker against LA if we beat them both times.

 

[kerouac9]

I'm fully willing to admit that I might be wrong here, but I thought at the time, there was albeit rare scenario in which all 3 teams (Us, Rams, Seahawks) could have had a record of 9-7. Seattle would have been eliminated first out of the tiebreaker due to only have a 3-3 division record. We then would have had the tiebreaker against LA if we beat them both times.

Then you should do so. Just to show the board you can.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I'm fully willing to admit that I might be wrong here, but I thought at the time, there was albeit rare scenario in which all 3 teams (Us, Rams, Seahawks) could have had a record of 9-7. Seattle would have been eliminated first out of the tiebreaker due to only have a 3-3 division record. We then would have had the tiebreaker against LA if we beat them both times.

You’re wrong.

I mean… did you even read the quote in my post that literally came from the link posted where the Cardinals website said they were eliminated from any post-season possibility after losing to the Panthers. It’s there… quoted in black and white in my post and backed up with the link to the article straight from the Arizona Cardinals website.

It doesn’t say pushed to the brink of elimination. It says ELIMINATED. This was only six weeks ago or so. You don’t remember how pissed/morose everyone was because we HAD to win that game to have any prayer of ending up in a three way tie and it was now impossible, knocking us out of the playoffs?

Here’s another link from profootballnetwork.com that shows who’s still in the hunt and who’s eliminated the week after the Panthers game and before the Rams game in Week 17:

NFL Week 16 Playoff Bracket and Standings: AFC and NFC Picture Starting To Take Shape

The NFL playoff bracket is updated in real-time with the most recent results and standings across the AFC and NFC.

www.profootballnetwork.com

Here another link from Sporting News for the same week showing us eliminated:

NFL standings: Updated AFC, NFC playoff pictures after Week 16 of 2024 season | Sporting News

Here's where every NFL team stands in both conferences in the race to make the playoffs after Week 16.

www.sportingnews.com

Here’s another from NBC sports showing us mathematically eliminated.

NFL Playoff Picture 2024: Updated AFC and NFC Standings, bracket, tiebreakers for Week 16

The Chiefs have the lead for the AFC No. 1 seed, the Lions have the lead for the NFC No. 1 seed, and there's still plenty to be determined beyond that.

www.nbcsports.com

Do you still need more proof that you’re wrong?

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Then you should do so. Just to show the board you can.

I do it all the time. I have no problem doing it, unlike some people.

I'm wrong.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Do you still need more proof that you’re wrong?

Nope, but I didn't need any more proof of your crappy attitude either.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Nope, but I didn't need any more proof of your crappy attitude either.

You’re right. I do have a crappy attitude when someone is demonstrably proven wrong (like you were with the Cardinals link/quote I posted the first time) and they still won’t admit it until so much redundant proof is offered to them that they have no choice to finally admit fault.

Having to pull teeth and nails before someone gets to the point of admitting they’re wrong is a massive failing of society at this point, so when I see that, it makes me sad and pisses me off.

 

[Cardinal88]

Cheese/Dream… are you guys fighting nice?