Kyler Murray Debate Thread

[DVontel]

I just dislike it takes a 26/36 307yards, 2 TD performance just to win by 1 point. C’mon Monti

 

[AZfaninMN]

He had 3 batted passes before the half and about 70 yards passing. Must be a new definition of bad I missed.

8/14 for 76 and 8 yards rushing. The rest of the offense had 27 total yards. I should have said “he wasn’t the problem” instead of not bad. The offense all together was bad

 

[urs]

The reason he gets so many batted passes has nothing to do with his height (as Warner has explained before) it's that his line is pushed so far back into the pocket that they are all right there. He also needs to find throwing lanes better and learn how to put touch on screen passes over defenders

 

[TRW]

The reason he gets so many batted passes has nothing to do with his height (as Warner has explained before) it's that his line is pushed so far back into the pocket that they are all right there. He also needs to find throwing lanes better and learn how to put touch on screen passes over defenders

I agree with most of this, except SOMETIMES it is his height. Not a lot, but it does come into play occasionally. Just sayin'.

 

[BritCard]

I just dislike it takes a 26/36 307yards, 2 TD performance just to win by 1 point. C’mon Monti

After a 2 point safety too

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I agree with most of this, except SOMETIMES it is his height. Not a lot, but it does come into play occasionally. Just sayin'.

Reasonable opinion.

 

[urs]

I agree with most of this, except SOMETIMES it is his height. Not a lot, but it does come into play occasionally. Just sayin'.

Yeah I was being a bit hyperbolic I guess. Good point!

 

[SoonerLou]

I just dislike it takes a 26/36 307yards, 2 TD performance just to win by 1 point. C’mon Monti

Good to see he's still capable of it though.

What do you think we need to add specifically?

I know next season we need to add a downfield speed threat on offense. Even if he's just a #3. Threat of Waddle/Hill makes life a lot easier for Tua.

 

[K1Day1]

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He had 3 batted passes before the half and about 70 yards passing. Must be a new definition of bad I missed.

That's why the game doesn't end at halftime lol.

 

[Redsz]

Broadcast mentioned that Kyler sat down with Marv to simplify things and get him his favorite routes. That's what a good QB does. Paid off today.

 

[DVontel]

Good to see he's still capable of it though.

What do you think we need to add specifically?

I know next season we need to add a downfield speed threat on offense. Even if he's just a #3. Threat of Waddle/Hill makes life a lot easier for Tua.

We need at least 2 game-changers on the front 4

 

[BritCard]

That

That's why the game doesn't end at halftime lol.

I know. But fair to say bad first half, great second half.

 

[bankybruce]

This was the most "Kyler with reckless abandoned" since his great run in 2021. Throwing balls up for MHJ, running towards thr crowd, staying in the pocket longer on long downs. He made two game saving throws on that final drive.

All of it.

 

[Chopper0080]

Just finished the game. Really good day from Murray. Receivers caught the ball today. Protection was good enough. Nice resilience. 2nd GW drive by Kyler in two weeks. Tough game with the defense being what it was, but the offense stepped up. Most encouraging sign of the year so far.

 

[bankybruce]

I agree with most of this, except SOMETIMES it is his height. Not a lot, but it does come into play occasionally. Just sayin'.

I think it was more early in his career and he's learned from it. Every season his batted stats have improved. I haven't checked this year yet though.

Edit! This doesn't count today yet.

He played 11 games in 22, 8 games last year abd this year shows 7 games.

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[BritCard]

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[Crimson Warrior]

MVP

 

[unseenaz]

If he played like today every week we wouldn’t even have this thread. He was lights out. Impressive game all around on offense. I gotta be honest, I thought Petzing called a good game as well.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

A part of his game that appears to be improving, and something that even I have been critical of for Murray previously.

He seems to be getting a little more clutch.

Now obviously he still hasn't won an NFL playoff game, or even a late season playoff clinching game.

But the kid was icy, icy cool again today in an unimaginably pressure packed game winning drive. With the season essentially on the line.

This version of Murray is a little tougher, a little more poised than previous versions. He's grown up some since the knee.

 

[BritCard]

He had a good game today, but the reason this thread exists is because this below is a pretty common stat and it's been 5 years.

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[BritCard]

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[GeorgiaCard88]

A part of his game that appears to be improving, and something that even I have been critical of for Murray previously.

He seems to be getting a little more clutch.

Now obviously he still hasn't won an NFL playoff game, or even a late season playoff clinching game.

But the kid was icy, icy cool again today in an unimaginably pressure packed game winning drive. With the season essentially on the line.

This version of Murray is a little tougher, a little more poised than previous versions. He's grown up some since the knee.

I could rag on him for the first half but you hit it crimson- when the game was on the line and he had a chance to put it away- he was awesome and hella CLUTCH.

We won today, and it was because of Murray. As stoked as I am, to make me a Murray convert though- I want to see consistency.

 

[Stout]

I just dislike it takes a 26/36 307yards, 2 TD performance just to win by 1 point. C’mon Monti

Yep. This defense is awful. We need a couple edges and strong interior DL play.

 

[Stout]

I could rag on him for the first half but you hit it crimson- when the game was on the line and he had a chance to put it away- he was awesome and hella CLUTCH.

We won today, and it was because of Murray. As stoked as I am, to make me a Murray convert though- I want to see consistency.

Same. I'm glad I was watching on a delay so I couldn't post in-game, because I'm over the Kyler batted balls/batted ball INTs. But I couldn't post in game and I am over the moon with his second half. I think the difference is that he was willing to sling it. He risked it a bit, and we got some biscuits because of it. The confidence and swagger that goes along with that is also great.

 

[Redsz]

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My god that perfect throw to Marv between three defenders!