Kyler Murray Debate Thread

[SoonerLou]

There is always recency bias, but the game vs Miami might be the best passing game I have seen from Kyler in his career.

Rams 2021

Especially since that turned out to be a Super Bowl defense.
Edit: Sorry you said passing not overall game. Maybe.

 

[602 Native]

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[Ronin]

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Man, what is your point? Are you trying to start a fight?

 

[slanidrac16]

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Let it go dude. You love Kyler. We love Kyler. The only difference is we are emotionally capable of giving an unbiased opinion while evaluating his play.

 

[602 Native]

Man, what is your point? Are you trying to start a fight?

Why would there be a fight?

K1 is a top 10 franchise QB that has captained us to the top of the division.

 

[602 Native]

Let it go dude. You love Kyler. We love Kyler. The only difference is we are emotionally capable of giving an unbiased opinion while evaluating his play.

77 people said get rid of K1 just this season so obviously that is not the case.

I am all for critiquing the dude but wanting to get rid of our best player for the crap in the draft or as a FA is suicide for a franchise that has only had 7 winning seasons in its history of being here in AZ.

Don't cut off your nose to spite your face. K1 is not perfect and no QB is but have some perspective of who this franchise has historically been.

 

[slanidrac16]

77 people said get rid of K1 just this season so obviously that is not the case.

I am all for critiquing the dude but wanting to get rid of our best player for the crap in the draft or as a FA is suicide for a franchise that has only had 7 winning seasons in its history of being here in AZ.

Don't cut off your nose to spite your face. K1 is not perfect and no QB is but have some perspective of who this franchise has historically been.

Okay… but you are not “ all for critiquing “. I can’t recall one instance where you have ever found ANY fault in Kyler’s play.
Brace yourself. If Kyler lays an egg Sunday against the Bears, BTW,a very good defense, he will get “ critiqued “
Again.

 

[BritCard]

There is always recency bias, but the game vs Miami might be the best passing game I have seen from Kyler in his career.

In relation to proper QB play, staying in the pocket, going through reads, staying on time, throwing with anticipation etc, it might well be.

 

[Chopper0080]

Why would there be a fight?

K1 is a top 10 franchise QB that has captained us to the top of the division.

This is always an interesting statement. I am curious how you rank the top 10 franchise QBs.

 

[602 Native]

Okay… but you are not “ all for critiquing “. I can’t recall one instance where you have ever found ANY fault in Kyler’s play.
Brace yourself. If Kyler lays an egg Sunday against the Bears, BTW,a very good defense, he will get “ critiqued “
Again.

K1 rarely lays eggs and the Bears have beaten no one of significance.

Go check the gameday threads I have talked about K1 before.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

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Warner would be proud of how K1 stood in the pocket and took some punishment to deliver that 2nd throw.

 

[602 Native]

This is always an interesting statement. I am curious how you rank the top 10 franchise QBs.

Are there 22 other QBs you would take other than K1 in the NFL?

We know Watson and Trevor lawerence aren't on the board any longer.

There shouldn't be a week to week response to the QB of whether to keep him or get rid of him based on wins/loses.

He ain't going anywhere and JG, MO, and even little Mikey would tell you that.

 

[Chopper0080]

Go look for the needle in the haystack he says...lol

 

[602 Native]

Warner would be proud of how K1 took some punishment to deliver that 2nd throw.

None of the QBs we face take punishment though.

 

[Chopper0080]

Are there 22 other QBs you would take other than K1 in the NFL?

We know Watson and Trevor lawerence aren't on the board any longer.

There shouldn't be a week to week response to the QB of whether to keep him or get rid of him based on wins/loses.

He ain't going anywhere and JG, MO, and even little Mikey would tell you that.

All I asked was how you ranked the top 10 NFL franchise QBs? I am not sure why that question resulted in this response.

 

[slanidrac16]

K1 rarely lays eggs and the Bears have beaten no one of significance.

Go check the gameday threads I have talked about K1 before.

I can only participate in game day chats at commercial breaks since lag time puts me about 30-40 seconds behind.
The Bears have not played the toughest schedule but I believe they have held opponents under 21 points for like 13 games in a row and going into Sunday lead the league in turnovers.
Let’s not forget the held the Pigskins to 9 pts aside from the fluke play.
That’s the same team that laid a 40 burger on us. Don’t sleep on the Bears.

 

[DaHilg]

I can only participate in game day chats at commercial breaks since lag time puts me about 30-40 seconds behind.
The Bears have not played the toughest schedule but I believe they have held opponents under 21 points for like 13 games in a row and going into Sunday lead the league in turnovers.
Let’s not forget the held the Pigskins to 9 pts aside from the fluke play.
That’s the same team that laid a 40 burger on us. Don’t sleep on the Bears.

The bears will be as tough to beat as any team that we have beaten this year. That D is real, and they have the weapons on offense to expose us

 

[602 Native]

Go look for the needle in the haystack he says...lol

Im not the one making the claim.

 

[BritCard]

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Dude he has about 5 good quarters of passing all season and I can count good games on two hands (probably one hand TBH) since week 10 2021.

He literally just had the 2nd game of his career with over 300 yards, 2 TD's and 0 interceptions in year 6. Something Patrick Mahomes did in his first 4 starts in the league and 16 times by this stage of his career. Something it took even Gardner Minshew only 19 games to achieve.

He had a great 2nd half on Sunday, but you're dreaming if you think he's a top 10 franchise QB because of one game. If he plays like that the rest of the season then yeah, but Kyler's problem is that he's wildly inconsistent.

 

[slanidrac16]

Dude he has about 5 good quarters of passing all season and I can count good games on two hands (probably one hand TBH) since week 10 2021.

He literally just had the 2nd game of his career with over 300 yards, 2 TD's and 0 interceptions in year 6. Something Patrick Mahomes did in his first 4 starts in the league and 16 times by this stage of his career. Something it took even Gardner Minshew on 19 games to achieve.

He had a great 2nd half on Sunday, buy your dreaming if you think he's a top 10 franchise QB because of one game. If he plays like that the rest of the season then yeah, but Kyler's problem is that he's wildly inconsistent.

Stop Brit. All you’re going to get in response is the talent around Kyler is lacking.

 

[602 Native]

I can only participate in game day chats at commercial breaks since lag time puts me about 30-40 seconds behind.
The Bears have not played the toughest schedule but I believe they have held opponents under 21 points for like 13 games in a row and going into Sunday lead the league in turnovers.
Let’s not forget the held the Pigskins to 9 pts aside from the fluke play.
That’s the same team that laid a 40 burger on us. Don’t sleep on the Bears.

The Redmanders were by far the better team. The officiating was absolutely putrid in the game and kept the Bears in it.

No game is easy but we have faced way better teams this season than the Bears. My main concern is our defense because they do have weapons and can run the ball and we let QBs setup picnics on pass plays.

Hoping MHJ now has confidence. You know Trey and Conner will show up.

 

[602 Native]

Dude he has about 5 good quarters of passing all season and I can count good games on two hands (probably one hand TBH) since week 10 2021.

He literally just had the 2nd game of his career with over 300 yards, 2 TD's and 0 interceptions in year 6. Something Patrick Mahomes did in his first 4 starts in the league and 16 times by this stage of his career. Something it took even Gardner Minshew on 19 games to achieve.

He had a great 2nd half on Sunday, buy your dreaming if you think he's a top 10 franchise QB because of one game. If he plays like that the rest of the season then yeah, but Kyler's problem is that he's wildly inconsistent.

So when should we trade or cut him?

 

[Chopper0080]

Im not the one making the claim.

Fair.

Since you made the claim about Kyler being a top 10 franchise QB...where is your list?

 

[BritCard]

So when should we trade or cut him?

When his dead cap hit isn't crippling, unless he gets more consistent as a passer.

 

[slanidrac16]

Here we go again.
Can we just enjoy Sundays win along with Kyler’s performance this week?