Kyler Murray Debate Thread

[ASUCHRIS]

I didn't say it was an excuse for a loss. I said it'll mean more when we win.

I guess. You bring up the extreme example of the Niners, but nearly every team is dealing with at minimum the level of injuries the Cards are dealing with at this point.

Winning will show this team is a team headed in the right direction.

I don't see this either - winning this will show again that they're capable of beating the dregs of the league, something we're all aware of anyway.

Unfortunately we've lost to every playoff level team we've played. Beat the Rams next week, and that will mean something.

 

[DVontel]

Unfortunately we've lost to every playoff level team we've played. Beat the Rams next week, and that will mean something.

Eh I mean did beat both of the LA teams(& have a chance to sweep the LA team in our division for the first time since…..2014? Damn.)

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Eh I mean did beat both of the LA teams(& have a chance to sweep the LA team in our division for the first time since…..2014? Damn.)

C'mon...you're not seriously going to say the Rams team we're facing next week is what we saw earlier in the year.

 

[DVontel]

C'mon...you're not seriously going to say the Rams team we're facing next week is what we saw earlier in the year.

Chris…

Please read my initial post one more time. Or a couple more times.

I just said “we have a chance”. Am I not allowed to say that?

Nowhere did I compare & contrast this Rams’ team from earlier to this current one.

Reading comprehension seems to be a huge problem with some posters here. I do/did not expect you to be one of them.

 

[kerouac9]

Eh I mean did beat both of the LA teams(& have a chance to sweep the LA team in our division for the first time since…..2014? Damn.)

To be fair if we beat the Rams next week they won’t be a playoff team. If they beat us, they will be. Can only confirm the thesis.

 

[DVontel]

To be fair if we beat the Rams next week they won’t be a playoff team. If they beat us, they will be. Can only confirm the thesis.

This is true.

Still stands for the Chargers unless they have a catastrophic meltdown, lol.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

Kyler Murray was so confident he could play in cold weather until learning this week's forecast

At face value, it wouldn't be shocking to learn Kyler Murray isn't used to cold-weather football. He's a Texas native. He played college football in Oklahoma. He plays professional football in the giant desert known as the state of Ar

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[kerouac9]

This is true.

Still stands for the Chargers unless they have a catastrophic meltdown, lol.

I think the accurate thing to say is that we haven't beaten a team with a winning record? No. It looks like the Chargers were 3-2.

My operating theory right now is that Gannon is probably a third-tier head coach -- will beat bad teams, go .500 or so against mediocre teams, and get boatraced by superior talent. Maybe I'll put together an NFL coaching tiers list before Black Monday.

Are you still standing by your belief that Monti did the right thing in stripping down the roster? It sure seems like Denver, Minneapolis, the Chargers, and the Commies were able to bounce back pretty effectively.

 

[DVontel]

I think the accurate thing to say is that we haven't beaten a team with a winning record? No. It looks like the Chargers were 3-2.

My operating theory right now is that Gannon is probably a third-tier head coach -- will beat bad teams, go .500 or so against mediocre teams, and get boatraced by superior talent. Maybe I'll put together an NFL coaching tiers list before Black Monday.

Are you still standing by your belief that Monti did the right thing in stripping down the roster? It sure seems like Denver, Minneapolis, the Chargers, and the Commies were able to bounce back pretty effectively.

Bounce back? How many years did it take the Commanders & Broncos to “bounce back”?

 

[DVontel]

I think the accurate thing to say is that we haven't beaten a team with a winning record? No. It looks like the Chargers were 3-2.

Trying too hard here & you specifically know this.

 

[Shane]

Kyler Murray was so confident he could play in cold weather until learning this week's forecast

At face value, it wouldn't be shocking to learn Kyler Murray isn't used to cold-weather football. He's a Texas native. He played college football in Oklahoma. He plays professional football in the giant desert known as the state of Ar

www.yahoo.com

I mean Oklahoma gets cold as hell.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I mean Oklahoma gets cold as hell.

I am going to be really interested how he plays

 

[kerouac9]

Bounce back? How many years did it take the Commanders & Broncos to “bounce back”?

The commies were 8-8 two years ago. The Broncs hadn’t exactly stockpiled talent before Payton arrived.

 

[oaken1]

Wouldn't the cap hit also be very large restricting any possible FA signings?

We would still have around 45m to spend.... no threat of Mikey letting MO run up on that

 

[602 Native]

I mean Oklahoma gets cold as hell.

All this cold talk it’s supposed to be like 40° or 45°. It ain’t that cold

 

[DVontel]

I am going to be really interested how he plays

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I’m interested when & who these games were against.

 

[DVontel]

The commies were 8-8 two years ago. The Broncs hadn’t exactly stockpiled talent before Payton arrived.

Commies made the playoffs two years ago?

Wonder why does one trade for Russell Wilson if that’s the case. Surely it couldn’t have been they thought they were just a QB away/had enough talent.

 

[oaken1]

But I never see them just sitting and pouting or throwing up their arms like kylers signature moves. That’s not leadership man. It’s anti-leadership. And that’s what we are talking about. It’s not the lack of “rah rah,” it’s the negativity. It’s a kyler trait unfortunately. I can’t recall any QB we’ve ever had that has that sour countenance.

Oh sure ya can...and he took this poo seriously too

 

[SoonerLou]

Key for the last 3 games is can Kyler physically overwhelm a team.

Injuries or not he should physically overwhelm the Panthers.

Can he make those great escape plays vs the Rams again.

Can he take one to the house vs the 49ers (or just a run game)

This isnt the Lions, Bills, Eagles, etc etc.

Its time to see if he can physically beat teams late at the end of the season. 2020 he broke down against the Rams/49ers. 2021 was a blunder obvs. Time to fix that.

 

[AZ Native]

I believe Kyler will come through this and he will win this game for us. Then the real work begins.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I believe Kyler will come through this and he will win this game for us. Then the real work begins.

I hope you are correct

 

[BritCard]

This is an interesting watch for anyone that hasn't seen it.

It's based on his 2022 season, and while I think he's improved in some of these areas it explains why he's not where he should be. Only about 20 games separates Kyler from this film.

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[602 Native]

K1 gets a call out this week

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[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Oh sure ya can...and he took this poo seriously too

Who?

 

[BirdGangThing]

i don't need km to be patrick maholmes - josh allen - russell wilson - i need kyler murray to be kyler murray tomorrow cuz i aint seen him in over a month - and with me being me i have to look at the timeline

only thing that stands out - only things "out of his control" were the consecutive brutal blind sides coming from untouched defenders in back to back games - first one hurt - and one is going to happen from time to time but it's clear they worked all week yet kyler got crushed again - right around when lawrence got knocked the **** out too

fool me once shame on me - fool me twice shame on petzing and froholdt too - what's kyler supposed to do? trust this line? when paris has fallen and it's been nothing but the frozo the clown show since the bye?

still tho - it doesn't excuse kyler's inability to read the blitz or the decision making during it - most elusive quarterback my ass - i see fear - there's buying time and then there's running for your life - buying time requires a clear mind

it's not our defense or our running game - they've been playoff caliber - probably just wildcard or bad division caliber but still dangerous - but not kyler

anything you do in life - you're either in control or you're just doing it - murray hasn't been in control for some time now