2012 Free Agency news

[Mainstreet]

Houston is offering him more than they wanted to give Dragic, which is pretty telling on multiple levels.

I'd pay Lin more as well. He would be perfect in a Suns uniform with his style of play. Perhaps the trade can be configured to get him yet.

 

[Mainstreet]

The Bucks have a five year contract offer on the table for Ersan Ilyasova. He is probably the top FA prospect I was hoping the Suns could get. I wonder what he commands in salary.

 

[Mainstreet]

Here is a tidbit from the Paul Coro blog dated 7-4-12. See link below.

The Phoenix Suns apparently are envisioning a lineup for next season that looks something like this: Raymond Felton, Eric Gordon, Michael Beasley, Channing Frye/Markieff Morris and Marcin Gortat.

That is what you would have to take from the Suns' hope to find agreeable contract terms today with Beasley during his Valley visit. Beasley's visit comes two days after the Suns met Beasley in Los Angeles, a day after Gordon's commitment to sign a four-year, $58 million offer sheet and the day before Felton visits in search of his fifth team in four seasons.

http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/PaulCoro/165847

 

[elindholm]

Felton is 28, and a reasonable projection for his numbers as the starting PG in Phoenix would be 14 and 7 on shooting in the low 40s. Not exciting.

 

[Folster]

I'm interested in looking at the cap figures once the Suns finish their signings. I'm hopeful that even with all of the salary additions Babby would be planning on having room for one max contract next year with the combo of Warrick expiring and Childress being amnestied.

 

[Mainstreet]

Felton is 28, and a reasonable projection for his numbers as the starting PG in Phoenix would be 14 and 7 on shooting in the low 40s. Not exciting.

I'm thinking Felton would be the starter while Marshall hopefully develops with Telfair somewhere in the mix. Felton successfully ran an uptempo offense in NY. Ultimately I do not think Felton is considered as the long term replacement for Nash. Maybe Marshall develops as a starter... maybe he doesn't. If I were looking for a possible long term solution at PG (that may be available) it would be Lin.

 

[PDXChris]

Here is a tidbit from the Paul Coro blog dated 7-4-12. See link below.



http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/PaulCoro/165847

As a Bulls fan who is looking forward to the 2013-2014 season with Rose out for most is not all of next year and Deng missing the first 3 months, I would enjoy watching that Suns team and would even pay to see it. I think that would be a fun athletic team to watch.

 

[elindholm]

Felton successfully ran an uptempo offense in NY.

But I thought the whole point was for the Suns to start focusing more on being a half-court team? They don't have the personnel for an up-tempo offense, or at least certainly not for a good one, with or without Felton.

 

[SunsTzu]

Felton is 28, and a reasonable projection for his numbers as the starting PG in Phoenix would be 14 and 7 on shooting in the low 40s. Not exciting.

Yeah, that line up has no appeal at all. I stopped going to games after the KT trade and if that's the foundation they're laying after the slow dismantling a competing team I'll probably stop watching outside the occasional game.

 

[overseascardfan]

Here is a tidbit from the Paul Coro blog dated 7-4-12. See link below.



http://www.azcentral.com/members/Blog/PaulCoro/165847

I'd be okay with those pick ups and that lineup. Let's face it people this lineup is not built to win a championship but its better than what we have currently which ain't saying much. The purpose of fielding this team is to start the rebuilding and secure a lottery pick next year that we can pair with Gordon and continue to build for the future by grooming Marshall behind fellow Tar Heel Felton.

 

[Mainstreet]

But I thought the whole point was for the Suns to start focusing more on being a half-court team? They don't have the personnel for an up-tempo offense, or at least certainly not for a good one, with or without Felton.

I guess I never believed that a running team can't play defense. However, the Suns supposed starting lineup does not seem built for defense. I do think a proposed starting lineup of Felton, Gordon, Beasley, Frye/Morris and Gortat can score a lot of points. However, I'm not sure there are many answers in free agency that can do both well that the Suns can acquire. I think Foster said it well somewhere, that if the Suns keep keep enough CAP space to acquire another max player next season and keep their options open long term I will be satisfied. Then the Suns need to draft well.

 

[Joe Mama]

I really can't believe so many of you are excited about all of this. We are spending a bunch of money to put together a team that will be damn lucky to make the playoffs at all. Whatever they pay Michael Beasley is going to be two or three times more than he's worth in another year. Eric Gordon healthy isn't a $15 million shooting guard. What's worse is that we won't quite be bad enough to get the top three draft picks we need for the next year or two if we are really going to build something.

I would be happier if we could get Shumpert in a sign and trade and then see if we could get young, athletic, cheaper guys to fill out the other spots. Skip Eric Gordon, avoid Michael Beasley unless you can get him cheap on a really short deal.

I'm sorry, but this is just stupid.

Joe

 

[Cheesebeef]

I really can't believe so many of you are excited about all of this. We are spending a bunch of money to put together a team that will be damn lucky to make the playoffs at all. Whatever they pay Michael Beasley is going to be two or three times more than he's worth in another year. Eric Gordon healthy isn't a $15 million shooting guard.

I would be happier if we could get Shumpert in a sign and trade and then see if we could get young, athletic, cheaper guys to fill out the other spots. Skip Eric Gordon, overweight Michael Beasley unless you can get him cheap on a really short deal.

I'm sorry, but this is just stupid.

Joe

agreed. it's exactly what I feared. we're going to become the Detroit Pistons.

 

[Mainstreet]

Here is the quote my Foster to which I referred.

I'm interested in looking at the cap figures once the Suns finish their signings. I'm hopeful that even with all of the salary additions Babby would be planning on having room for one max contract next year with the combo of Warrick expiring and Childress being amnestied.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

I really can't believe so many of you are excited about all of this. We are spending a bunch of money to put together a team that will be damn lucky to make the playoffs at all. Whatever they pay Michael Beasley is going to be two or three times more than he's worth in another year. Eric Gordon healthy isn't a $15 million shooting guard. What's worse is that we won't quite be bad enough to get the top three draft picks we need for the next year or two if we are really going to build something.

I would be happier if we could get Shumpert in a sign and trade and then see if we could get young, athletic, cheaper guys to fill out the other spots. Skip Eric Gordon, avoid Michael Beasley unless you can get him cheap on a really short deal.

I'm sorry, but this is just stupid.

Joe

Totally agree, killing flexibility to be fighting for a playoff spot is really dumb. I'm fine signing the Beasleys/Terrance Williams/Hicksons of the world to short term contracts to see if they can get it together.

Overspending on guys like Gordon is what keeps bad teams down.

 

[Mainstreet]

I really can't believe so many of you are excited about all of this. We are spending a bunch of money to put together a team that will be damn lucky to make the playoffs at all. Whatever they pay Michael Beasley is going to be two or three times more than he's worth in another year. Eric Gordon healthy isn't a $15 million shooting guard. What's worse is that we won't quite be bad enough to get the top three draft picks we need for the next year or two if we are really going to build something.

I would be happier if we could get Shumpert in a sign and trade and then see if we could get young, athletic, cheaper guys to fill out the other spots. Skip Eric Gordon, avoid Michael Beasley unless you can get him cheap on a really short deal.

I'm sorry, but this is just stupid.

Joe

You have the right to be skeptical and rightfully so. What I see is the Suns trying to put a young team together to go forward in Gordon, Beasley, Morris, Shumpert (hopefully) and Marshall. The Suns need to start somewhere. The Suns cannot depend on being a top three team in the draft or even getting the right player if they land there. We do agree the Suns need to be acquiring young, reasonably priced talent and keeping room under the CAP to go forward. Also the Suns need to continue to draft well.

 

[overseascardfan]

People are getting ahead of themselves. We will not get Gordon, he'd give us a good piece to move forward with. Don't worry people who feel the max is too much for him, NO will match. Mayo should be the target, hopefully PHO can get him in for a visit. Maybe sign Terrence Williams and there will be perimeter defense on the wings.

 

[jagu]

People are getting ahead of themselves. We will not get Gordon, he'd give us a good piece to move forward with. Don't worry people who feel the max is too much for him, NO will match. Mayo should be the target, hopefully PHO can get him in for a visit. Maybe sign Terrence Williams and there will be perimeter defense on the wings.

Why should he be the target again?

 

[Folster]

Hmm...

https://twitter.com/#!/ESPNSteinLine

Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine Sources w/knowledge of Suns' plans say PHX now making hard push to sign free agent Goran Dragic. Raps also trying to sign PG away from HOU

 

[Mainstreet]

Hmm...

https://twitter.com/#!/ESPNSteinLine

Things are moving too fast.

 

[overseascardfan]

Why should he be the target again?

Should be cheaper, provides the scoring Gordon would, a little bigger than Gordon at 6'4, not as injury prone, oh yeah and it won't be a waste of time which is not the case with Gordon and NO's ability to match.

 

[Griffin]

Why would you try to sign Dragic now? He's asking $10/year. They wouldn't give that to Nash on a shorter deal. They just drafted a PG.

 

[KloD]

You just know when the dust settles that the only signing the Suns will end up with is Dragic @ $10m a year. A guy we gave away last year because they didn't see him as the PG of the future.

It's nice to see Nash did what he could to help the Suns, be it worthless draft picks. The effort is appreciated. I can never root for Steve playing w/ the Lakers though. I hate that team almost as much as I hate their fans.

Well, the Suns are finally rebuilding which is what most of us wanted a few years ago. Let's hope they don't screw the pooch this time around.

 

[slinslin]

Why would you try to sign Dragic now? He's asking $10/year. They wouldn't give that to Nash on a shorter deal. They just drafted a PG.

Yes it just doesn't make sense. They would have been better off signing Nash for the money they gave Dragic. That would have been better for Marshall too.

 

[95pro]

wow, Thunder pick up Thabeet