Arizona Cardinals offseason thread 2022

[SoonerLou]

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[slanidrac16]

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Shocking……

 

[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

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[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

His agent better enjoy the sound of “click.”

 

[wa52lz]

His agent better enjoy the sound of “click.”

HAHA! thanks for the smile on a sad, sad day

 

[TRW]

His agent better enjoy the sound of “click.”

This made me LOL...out loud...

 

[kerouac9]

He had such a good training camp practice tho!

 

[BritCard]

I'd do a straight swap with the Pats for Harry. Not really a Harry fan but both need a change of scene and I'd role the dice on this offense suiting him better.

Plus we need outside depth.

 

[Stout]

He had such a good training camp practice tho!

Haha, right? Who was the joker on here swearing we'd see big things from AI because of training camp? Whoever it was sure shut up fast.

 

[unseenaz]

I'd do a straight swap with the Pats for Harry. Not really a Harry fan but both need a change of scene and I'd role the dice on this offense suiting him better.

Plus we need outside depth.

outside depth is key, and I don't think the cardinals really know how to use slot guys anyways

 

[PACardsFan]

I don’t think the Pats would make that trade Isabella for Harry straight up. Pull it off if you can.

 

[HairZach]

I don’t think the Pats would make that trade Isabella for Harry straight up. Pull it off if you can.

They might. I think Harry might be worse than Isabella. Harry has 172 more yards and 1 more TD than Isabella but he also has 50 more targets and 15 more games started.

 

[BritCard]

They might. I think Harry might be worse than Isabella. Harry has 172 more yards and 1 more TD than Isabella but he also has 50 more targets and 15 more games started.

All true, but scheme fit is a real thing. Take Chidobe Awuzie. Garbage in 2020 in that Mike Nolan defense, had a 52 PFF grade. They let him go in FA and at the Bengals this last year had a 83.4 PFF grade and went to the SB.

Both Harry and Isabella have been stuck in the same systems that don;t suit them. They may also suck and just not be NFL caliber players but I think a straight swap would be fair and actually both might be better in the others system.

I'm not saying Harry is going to be a starter but he would be better depth than Isabella who was out played by every other WR on the roster including Dortch from the PS.

 

[THESMEL]

Dan bickley has lost some perspectives with these limited scenarios. Denny Greene should have had another year.

But cards hired whisenhunt, championship steelers running most coordinator in the nfl, who promptly passed the cards to death.

Then on to championship Steelers run heavy coordinator Bruce Arians, the qb whisperer, who promptly passed the cardinals to death. Forgetting to run effectively in every important game.

Wilkes, crickets chirping.

Kliff,Kingsbury has grown, but did not win until he adjusted and incorporated effective run game, like the air red offense demands. Then He forgets to run all the time, Detroit destroyed us, rams destroyed us with practically no running back Carrie’s in the 1st quarter and beyond.

Of course the worse team in the nfl is going to destroy us epically as will the best. Media, team, fans can ignore this all they want, but teams can not compete for championships one dimensionally. Just like the sun rises and sets, it’s for sure.

So with Arizona Super Bowl next year, can you start over , Bidwill order a rebuild? Nope, cards are 3 years into this mess after Wilkes, remember Wilkes? So Bidwill must push his chips all in on this like the rams did. No cap money means Keim may have to burn through several years of draft picks for quality upgrades. Like the rams niners and Seahawks.

Probably won’t work out because the Pottsville curse or 75 years without a championship. But I will never surrender this fact, we can not win one dimensionally. We wasted a pro bowl effort by James Conner by refusing to run him early, he was the pro bowl back up, reserve - at 1.7 million , starter Chase Edmonds made less then a million. And nobody cares. Nobody values the run game, we finally got a run game coordinator, who made it worse.

I don’t know what the hell others are watching and talking about.Kyler , oline, defense can’t compete against an all,out pass rush every down, against last place Detroit or champion rams.

 

[BritCard]

For what it's worth I do expect the Cards to go "All in" this year.

I don't know if that would necessarily match up with our idea of "All in" because Keim's idea of all in is signing players like Green and Watt instead of OBJ and Miller.

But with the SB in Arizona next year and the last 2 winners winning the SB in their home stadium it's got to be in the FO's mind that this year is the year and that after starting 10-2 last year it's within reach.

So I expect a whole bunch of restructures to free up cap space. I expect they extend Kyler, because they wouldn't want to risk the dream with a disgruntled QB and I expect them to be aggressive in FA. Especially as they have no 4th or 5th round picks.

 

[Stout]

For what it's worth I do expect the Cards to go "All in" this year.

I don't know if that would necessarily match up with our idea of "All in" because Keim's idea of all in is signing players like Green and Watt instead of OBJ and Miller.

But with the SB in Arizona next year and the last 2 winners winning the SB in their home stadium it's got to be in the FO's mind that this year is the year and that after starting 1-2 last year it's within reach.

So I expect a whole bunch of restructures to free up cap space. I expect they extend Kyler, because they wouldn't want to risk the dream with a disgruntled QB and I expect them to be aggressive in FA. Especially as they have no 4th or 5th round picks.

So, our FO will incompetently bumble into even more future trouble in order to pursue a weak sauce "all in" that absolutely fails, and we'll fall on our faces again after mortgaging the future of the roster? Yay?

 

[DVontel]

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[BritCard]

So, our FO will incompetently bumble into even more future trouble in order to pursue a weak sauce "all in" that absolutely fails, and we'll fall on our faces again after mortgaging the future of the roster? Yay?

Probably but it's the NFL. Every year 24 teams have what fans consider a disappointing year.

 

[Ronin]

Saquon Barkley trade odds, speculation with New York Giants includes Arizona Cardinals

Trade speculation is swirling around New York Giants running back Saquon Barkley and the Arizona Cardinals are right in the middle of it. A site recently listed odds for Barkley's Week 1 NFL team in the 2022 season and the Cardinals came in at +1500, fifth on the list. Only the Giants (-200)...

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[Ronin]

Keim: Cardinals Would 'Love' to Bring Back Christian Kirk

Arizona Cardinals receiver Christian Kirk was once thought to be nothing short of gone following the end of his rookie deal with the team. Kirk, a second-round pick in 2018, failed to deliver on his high price tag through the first few years of his career in Arizona. Kirk missed nine games in...

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[Shane]

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While this is possibly true…. We would really never know. There were some grumblings about this already the last 3 years. Even if it were true Fitz is way too classy to admit it and put it out there In the media. Just not his way.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

While this is possibly true…. We would really never know. There were some grumblings about this already the last 3 years. Even if it were true Fitz is way too classy to admit it and put it out there In the media. Just not his way.

He also has no reason to defend Kyler/speak out if it wasn't true. The internet is a big place and that comment could have easily been lost in it.

 

[Shane]

He also has no reason to defend Kyler/speak out if it wasn't true. The internet is a big place and that comment could have easily been lost in it.

He doesn’t have a reason but that’s also not his style regardless he would never do it.

 

[BritCard]

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