Butler Denied Permission, Horton Expected to be Next DC

[Longcolts]

I thought Rob Ryan was the Cowboys new Def Coordinator?

 

[Hypothesis]

Now reports have Horton going to the Cowboys as the DC.

Did they happen to fire Rob Ryan?

 

[desertdawg]

Whiz is starting to look a little dumb now if there is no Butler or Horton..

 

[Longcolts]

He's been reported as being Hired as Defensive Assistant

 

[Shane]

Whiz is starting to look a little dumb now if there is no Butler or Horton..

How so?

 

[AzCardzFan]

What's plan C??? SMH.....

 

[asuhoopsnut]

I thought Rob Ryan was the Cowboys new Def Coordinator?

Sorry ...... corrected my post. The Cowboys are hiring Horton as a defensive assistant.

 

[TopGun]

Now this is beyond ridiculous..Now Horton going to the Cowgirls???And the Steelers did have a clause in Butlers contract.
The Steelers reportedly blocked the Cardinals from interviewing LBs coach Keith Butler for their defensive coordinator job.
The Rooney family is simply protecting its investment here. After handing Butler a hefty raise in response to the Cardinals' and Dolphins' interest last season, they placed a clause in his contract allowing them to deny permission for an interview elsewhere.
Source: XTRA 910 Phoenix

 

[joeshmo]

Whiz is starting to look a little dumb now.

Why? Because Steelers didn't grant him permission on Butler?

We don't even know where Horton fits on his wish list. They asked for permission on 3 coaches - Butler, Moss, and Horton according to Somers.

We don't even know what rumors out there right now are for real yet. Yet we can safely assume what Wiz wants or has asked for?

The only thing we can be sure of is Butler considering we tried two times prior to this.

 

[Longcolts]

Now this is beyond ridiculous..Now Horton going to the Cowgirls???And the Steelers did have a clause in Butlers contract.
The Steelers reportedly blocked the Cardinals from interviewing LBs coach Keith Butler for their defensive coordinator job.
The Rooney family is simply protecting its investment here. After handing Butler a hefty raise in response to the Cardinals' and Dolphins' interest last season, they placed a clause in his contract allowing them to deny permission for an interview elsewhere.
Source: XTRA 910 Phoenix

They didn't need a clause for that. If a coach is under contract a team must be given permission to interview someone for a position unless that position is as a Head Coach.

 

[desertdawg]

Why? Because Steelers didn't grant him permission on Butler?

We don't even know where Horton fits on his wish list. They asked for permission on 3 coaches - Butler, Moss, and Horton according to Somers.

We don't even know what rumors out there right now are for real yet. Yet we can safely assume what Wiz wants or has asked for?

The only thing we can be sure of is Butler considering we tried two times prior to this.

I hope Moss is still a option.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

http://arizona.sbnation.com/arizona...er-ray-horton-may-be-out-for-cardinals-dc-job

 

[joeshmo]

Now this is beyond ridiculous..Now Horton going to the Cowgirls???And the Steelers did have a clause in Butlers contract.
The Steelers reportedly blocked the Cardinals from interviewing LBs coach Keith Butler for their defensive coordinator job.
The Rooney family is simply protecting its investment here. After handing Butler a hefty raise in response to the Cardinals' and Dolphins' interest last season, they placed a clause in his contract allowing them to deny permission for an interview elsewhere.
Source: XTRA 910 Phoenix

Horrible wording by that source. They didn't need to add a clause. It is in every coaches contract. Unless its a HC job any team can deny permission.

That clause in that source is not the same clause as the "coordinator in waiting clause" hat has been discussed. Of which the man himself said he did not have.

 

[Brian]

My only concern with Horton is that if the Steelers had one weakness on defense, it was the secondary.

 

[TopGun]

per JasonLaCanfora on Twitter

1. Need to clear up last tweet. Ray Horton has offers on table to be Dallas DBs coach, and also has offer to be Arizona's D coordinator ...

 

[Longcolts]

They had McFadden, what would you expect?

 

[NashDishesDimes]

Horton hears a job offer from the Cowboys

Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on February 8, 2011, 3:50 PM EST

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Just minutes after a radio report surfaced in Arizona that the Cardinals were ready to hire Steelers secondary coach Ray Horton as their coordinator, there is news that Horton has a job offer with the Cowboys.
Jason La Canfora of NFL Network reports Horton has left to take a position with the Cowboys, presumably under coordinator Rob Ryan. (UPDATE: La Canfora has corrected his initial report, saying Horton has an offer on the table from both the Cowboys are Cardinals.) We mentioned earlier that there were conflicting reports about the Arizona hire.
The Cardinals reportedly requested permission to speak with Horton, Steelers linebackers coach Keith Butler, and Packers inside linebackers coach Winston Moss. Kent Somers of the Arizona Republic has confirmed the Steelers denied the Cardinals permission to speak with Butler.
UPDATE II: Somers says there’s “no way” Horton is going to Dallas. He’s scheduled to interview with the Cardinals on Wednesday.

 

[TopGun]

This just in from JasonLacanfora on twitter:

1. More Horton: Ray Horton has an interview scheduled with the Cards. The Cowboys are pursuing him. A third team could be involved as well

 

[PDXChris]

kentsomers Kent Somers
Ray Horton could take Cardinals job as soon as Wednesday. http://bit.ly/dVFbrX

I am happy with this.

 

[kerouac9]

My only concern with Horton is that if the Steelers had one weakness on defense, it was the secondary.

Ike Taylor is very good, as are Polumalu and Clark. McFadden was a problem, but what I like about it is that if you are going to coach safeties, then you have to understand what pretty much every position on the offense and defense are doing, and be able to make a diagnosis and a response immediately.

It's a much more cerebral position (safety) than any other except for offensive center and QB, IMO.

 

[redheat]

If Butler really wants us he can just resign and let us sign him...

 

[earthsci]

If Butler really wants us he can just resign and let us sign him...

No he can't. That is the idea of a contract.

 

[Totally_Red]

This just in from JasonLacanfora on twitter:

1. More Horton: Ray Horton has an interview scheduled with the Cards. The Cowboys are pursuing him. A third team could be involved as well

Hopefully the Cardinals finally win one of these pursuits. If Ray-Ray is in this much demand is he really such a lousy option? Or is this just his agent pumping up the price? Or both?

 

[Hypothesis]

If Butler really wants us he can just resign and let us sign him...

No...if he resigns he'll have to sit out the year.

On a side note, it was apparently Steelers ownership that told Butler he can't interview, not Steelers coaches per Jurecki.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

IMO, Whis's continuing reliance on former Steeler assistants will be what ruins his future in Arizona, and possibly as a head coach with another franchise.

Agreed. It is concerning.