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There’s no defensive improvement over a 22 game sample size
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Cardinals at Packers gameday thread 10-13-24
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Crimson Warrior
Dangerous Murray Zealot
I'm referring to designed run plays. I think at least five of his rushing attempts today were QB scrambles. Those are more hit or miss.
I'm talking about run plays schemed with blocking for the QB, or schemed to be deceptive (or both, like a QB draw).
Crimson Warrior
Dangerous Murray Zealot
He didn't have a 97 QBR.
He had a 97.7 efficiency rating.
His QBR was a more pedestrian 55.8
But who played better than Murray on offense today though Ouchie? McBride maybe? PJJ? Not Conner. Not Dortch.
K1 didn't take a sack despite ***** pass pro, didn't turn it over, and completed almost 70% of his passes with no true WR1 on the field.
You get that Ouchie right? You get that we don't have a WR1 on the team right now and how that might affect a QBs play?
Isn't it weird how in 2020 when Dhop joined the team Murray all of sudden became a much more prolific passer?
Be patient please my friend. MHJ will get there and then the offense will be better.
GatorAZ
feed hopkins
Kyler doesn’t WANT to run. He’s said numerous times that he doesn’t NEED to run. Ppl criticized Kliff for the same thing meanwhile Jayden Daniels is on pace for 175 rushing attempts.
Crimson Warrior
Dangerous Murray Zealot
You don't know that man.
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You mean until he STUNK down the stretch in 2020… and down the stretch in 2021.
WisconsinCard
Herfin BIg Time
Do not believe it watch for yourself. No way players lose on purpose too much pride and money on the line.
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WisconsinCard
Herfin BIg Time
Yup, I've been to at least 4 games with him and we only won once. That was in Dallas with a backup QB.
Chopper is right again!
Kinda feels about the same
Ouchie-Z-Clown
I'm better than Mulli!
I’m not blaming today on kyler just pointing out how these ratings don’t tell the story people here claim it does.
Everyone was at fault today. This was truly a full team effort (I’ll give mcbride a break).
There's lots of blame to go around for a performance like this but the 3 main ones are.
Monti - I like Monti and I think he will be a good GM. He's made some good FA signings in Fro, Mac Wilson, Evan Brown etc. But his defensive FA signings outside Wilson this offseason have all been bad. To be fair to SMB he's being paid as a CB3 and that's what they are getting.
Rallis/JG - The DL is not good enough to only rush 4 at any time, never mind down near the EZ in TD territory. Jordan Love has the biggest drop off in the league between unpressured vs pressured passer rating yet I barely saw a blitz yesterday outside obvious 3rd and long situations. You have the blitz more with this defense, there is no other option. Also make Melton and Williams your starting outside corners.
Kyler - He's the QB. Getting paid top 10 QB money and averaging less than 200 yards per game passing is not acceptable. I'd throw Petzing in here too, but I honestly think he's managing a weakness rather than holding back a great passer. If Kyler isn't on the same page with his #4 overall pick star WR then that is on him. It's his job to get them on the same page.
Monti - I like Monti and I think he will be a good GM. He's made some good FA signings in Fro, Mac Wilson, Evan Brown etc. But his defensive FA signings outside Wilson this offseason have all been bad. To be fair to SMB he's being paid as a CB3 and that's what they are getting.
Rallis/JG - The DL is not good enough to only rush 4 at any time, never mind down near the EZ in TD territory. Jordan Love has the biggest drop off in the league between unpressured vs pressured passer rating yet I barely saw a blitz yesterday outside obvious 3rd and long situations. You have the blitz more with this defense, there is no other option. Also make Melton and Williams your starting outside corners.
Kyler - He's the QB. Getting paid top 10 QB money and averaging less than 200 yards per game passing is not acceptable. I'd throw Petzing in here too, but I honestly think he's managing a weakness rather than holding back a great passer. If Kyler isn't on the same page with his #4 overall pick star WR then that is on him. It's his job to get them on the same page.
Crimson Warrior
Dangerous Murray Zealot
Sigh.. fine.
Agree it was an awful performance overall and that K1 left some yards/points on the field.
Crimson Warrior
Dangerous Murray Zealot
paragraph one - agree 1000%. MO is a relatively young, obviously passionate, professional. I think he's the type that will work work work until he achieves his goals. If he made some mistakes this past offseason, then I think he'll learn from them.
paragraph two - agree. In fairness I think the the plan for the pass rush was derailed some (some!) by the injuries to Ojulari and Robinson. I'll mention too that in four of our six games I think the defense has held up their end of the bargain. But I'm so sick of every QB completing 150% of their passes against us.
paragraph three - I'm disappointed in MHJ, although it's probably my fault that I had unrealistic expectations for him. What's most important is how Harrison is playing this time next year. It would be great too if by week 10 or 12 we see K1 and MHJ start clicking and they finish the year strong. That would be an acceptable result IMO.
CardNots
ASFN Lifer
Well grabbing a top five draft pick is going to be more difficult as the competition is far greater than last year.
Yes, I’ve turned to the draft. 11 games and counting…
Yes, I’ve turned to the draft. 11 games and counting…
SECTION 11
vibraslap
Did Connor get hurt?
602 Native
Hall of Famer
Ankle was being looked at so maybe
Chopper0080
2021 - Prove It
They have been riding him pretty hard so it would make sense. Most RBs miss so time every season. The hope is that it is just a total of a couple games.
JG said in his presser he was fine and it was "game script". Seem to take him out after the fumble.
Maybe they just knew the game was gone and sat him due to his load.
WisconsinCard
Herfin BIg Time
I lied it's been 5 and we still only have the one win.
Harry
ASFN Consultant and Senior Writer
Would have been an interesting half if Murray hadn’t killed that drive with 2 weird plays back to back
Harry
ASFN Consultant and Senior Writer
Shut it down
CardNots
ASFN Lifer
Still interesting
Harry
ASFN Consultant and Senior Writer
Good choice
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