Emmitt Promoted To Starting Running Back

[D-Dogg]

If this is all about pass blocking I have to ask why we're planning on throwing the ball so much with a young QB?

Because the strength of the team is in the WR corp, and DG's system is hell bent on passing the ball, regardless of the QB. With Fitz, Boldin and Johnson, I'd be dumbfounded if our emphasis wasn't on passing the ball. Throw DG into that mix and its a guarantee.

 

[KingLouieLouie]

VikesFan, if you were to offer some insightful contributions for once.... I have an important question.....

During his Vikings coaching career.....Did Green announce his starting line-up in mid-June like he just did today? If so... how much of change resulted between that time and the start of the season?

 

[KingLouieLouie]

Because the strength of the team is in the WR corp, and DG's system is hell bent on passing the ball, regardless of the QB. With Fitz, Boldin and Johnson, I'd be dumbfounded if our emphasis wasn't on passing the ball. Throw DG into that mix and its a guarantee.

That's an excellent point.....

Isnt Smith a better blocker than Shipp? That could be another factor as well into his decision......

 

[This_Guy]

Why the hell announce a starting lineup that he says is the starters going into camp, in other words the incumbents who will start unless their job is taken, and include a guy who 10 days ago was openly saying he wasn't the starter, didn't deserve to be the starter, and was fine with that?

The lineup announcement is a type of motivational tool, a coaching style that lets all players know EXACTLY where they stand at all times. For those injured, you better rehab and get back in shape. For Shipp, whatever the reason, you better correct it if you want to start.

It clearly said that the lineup was going INTO training camp and anyone else would have to beat a starter out.

As far as Emmitt's comments from 10 days ago, Green asks his players to accept certain roles. He likely told Emmitt that he would tell everyone and anyone who asked that Shipp was #1 and Emmitt was #2, as a tone setting, motivational ploy. At the end of the day, he'll play the guy who he'll win with.

And that's also my point about S King. He's given McCown the first shot, but is very prepared to let King start if McCown doesn't get it done. And so it goes with every position.

 

[vikesfan]

VikesFan, if you were to offer some insightful contributions for once.... I have an important question.....

During his Vikings coaching career.....Did Green announce his starting line-up in mid-June like he just did today? If so... how much of change resulted between that time and the start of the season?

Don't insult me if you want me to answer your questions.
I don't recall what he did with starting lineups in his MIN days frankly I didn't pay attention to stuff like that.

I do know one thing no one is going to be slacking off when camp starts for real.

 

[gamebird98]

I smell record breaking thread!

 

[ajcardfan]

What did this guy do in the last 10 days while apparently barely touching the ball in OTA's?

Russ, I read absolutely everything on the Cards locally and I don't know where you got this idea. I haven't heard he hasn't been taking many reps.

 

[joeshmo]

VikesFan, if you were to offer some insightful contributions for once.... I have an important question.....

During his Vikings coaching career.....Did Green announce his starting line-up in mid-June like he just did today? If so... how much of change resulted between that time and the start of the season?

Most of the coaches today give out a prelim starting lineup after all of their OTA'a and before training camp starts. Lets players know where they stand going into camp.

 

[joeshmo]

Russ, I read absolutely everything on the Cards locally and I don't know where you got this idea. I haven't heard he hasn't been taking many reps.

I agree with you. I just read like the last 15 Bordow articles and he didnt say anything remotly what Russ has been saying.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Hey Vikestard, you're sig is wrong (you're also making quite a habit of it). Yale has the most football national championships of all time with eighteen followed by Princeton with 17. Funny you bring this up because I thought from listening to you that championships didn't matter. In case you were wondering, Michigan also has more wins overall than Notre Dame.

 

[TigToad]

What he said.

Thank you. Until Shipp proves otherwise, this is my theory, too.

...by multiple coaches. What does that say? Maybe Shipp is the inferior player and we've all got the wrong idea about him.

I hope not, I see Shipp as our only hope of a running game this year, but I do trust in the wisdom of Denny Green... we'll have to see what happens.

 

[vikesfan]

Hey Vikestard, you're sig is wrong (you're also making quite a habit of it). Yale has the most football national championships of all time with eighteen followed by Princeton with 17. Funny you bring this up because I thought from listening to you that championships didn't matter. In case you were wondering, Michigan also has more wins overall than Notre Dame.

Yale and Princeton are no longer Division One schools and can never win another NC. Notre Dame can.

You must not understand what I was saying CHAMPIONSHIP is what matters most. That is why I like DG we had 8 chances to win a ring when he was in MIN. Since he left 0 chances.

Michigan iirc has played football longer then ND so of course they have more wins.

 

[Russ Smith]

I agree with you. I just read like the last 15 Bordow articles and he didnt say anything remotly what Russ has been saying.

Smith may not have been what the Cardinals ordered, but he has accepted his demotion and disappearance — has anyone dropped out of sight quicker? — with a quiet professionalism after at first grumbling about being made Marcel Shipp's backup.


Bordow wrote that less than 2 weeks ago and in that thread people said that Scobey was pushing Emmitt for #2 and that Emmitt was doing more coaching than playing . Jim O said he was working very hard in practice and was really helping out the young guys as a sort of coach.

I read the same thing in another thread, that Emmitt was getting very few reps.

If I'm wrong I retract the statement but I saw it in multiple threads here.

 

[Pariah]

You are taking my quote out of context.

No, he's not.

 

[Russ Smith]

No, he's not.

Hey if Barkley can be misquoted in his own book, anything is possible!

 

[Russ Smith]

Because the strength of the team is in the WR corp, and DG's system is hell bent on passing the ball, regardless of the QB. With Fitz, Boldin and Johnson, I'd be dumbfounded if our emphasis wasn't on passing the ball. Throw DG into that mix and its a guarantee.

Sure but we have a VERY raw QB, I would hope that we'll at least try to run the ball and that seems to favor Shipp.

Emmitt averaged less than 2.5 YPC last year unless we were at least 9 points down. In other words he only gained yards when we were way behind and defenses were playing pass not run.

I am not ready to trust josh mccown to throw the ball 30+ times a game I think he needs to be eased into things even if DG is the coach.

 

[This_Guy]

has anyone dropped out of sight quicker? — with a quiet professionalism after at first grumbling about being made Marcel Shipp's backup.

The point I am trying to make is that Green asks his players to accept a role and agree to it publicly, but it' s still just coach speak. Everyone is replaceable.

 

[SECTION 11]

Sure but we have a VERY raw QB, I would hope that we'll at least try to run the ball and that seems to favor Shipp.

Emmitt averaged less than 2.5 YPC last year unless we were at least 9 points down. In other words he only gained yards when we were way behind and defenses were playing pass not run.

I am not ready to trust josh mccown to throw the ball 30+ times a game I think he needs to be eased into things even if DG is the coach.

Boy, does this remind me of the months leading up to the draft...

Want to take heat off your green QB and your receivers? Then draft a RUNNING BACK!!!!

 

[Capital Card]

I'll take a suck coach and a Superbowl win over a coach with the "opportunity to win year after year" every year from now til the day I die.

Am I the only one who wonders if Stormy Bidwill sold his soul for the '47 championship in exchange for an eternity of losing football?

 

[Phlegyas]

In the thread about starters, Green says the backups are going to have to beat out the starters in camp. Because of this, I agree that this is a motovation tool for Marcel Shipp.

This thread is dramatic and hilarious all at the same time. Can't wait to see what people say tomorrow!

 

[seesred]

I've read all the posts and have had some time to think about it. From what was announced today till the first game of the season things will change. That you can bet on.Who knows, for all we know there may be a trade out there for Shipp. Coach has been laying a lot of praise on Scooby.

I do however like the starting defense. Starks looks like he just might be back.Berry on one side fred on the other. I like the linebackers a lot. As for Mr. Shipp I feel bad for him, but I;m preety sure he will get his touches, IF he is on the team when season starts.

GBR
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[Jim O]

Green's not going to promote Scobey two places.

Scobey has been out for a few weeks with a hamstring anyway.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Uh DG in 10 years won 2 coach of the year awards, had 9 seasons without a losing record, made the playoffs 8 times with 7 different QBs, won 4 division titles etc.

I think he knows what he is doing.

omg, dude, i'm all for you not getting banned, but don't you even realize that it's posts like this one that got you banned? learn from your mistakes or i ain't sticking up for you again.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

hand offs, but always being a quick shifty guy. While Emmitt may not be Robert Smith at this point in his career, he may be a better fit than Shipp for the offense.

robert smith was never a "quick shifty guy." he was a long strider with breakawy speed. i am very well acquainted with robert smith's career. neither emmitt nor shipp comes close to emulating robert smith's running style.

 

[D-Dogg]

Sure but we have a VERY raw QB, I would hope that we'll at least try to run the ball and that seems to favor Shipp.

Emmitt averaged less than 2.5 YPC last year unless we were at least 9 points down. In other words he only gained yards when we were way behind and defenses were playing pass not run.

I am not ready to trust josh mccown to throw the ball 30+ times a game I think he needs to be eased into things even if DG is the coach.

I just don't see it happening with DG. He has a system that he likes.


Section 11, I agree...I was hoping we would trade up with our second rounder and nab Jackson when he plummetted so far down. I don't think the RB this team needs is on this roster. I think DG will grab one first round next year.