Favorite qb in the upcoming draft not named Bridgewater?

[Phrazbit]

I had mixed feelings on Hundley until today. Now I'm pretty convinced he is a not a high level prospect. Dont like anything I saw, poor accuracy and more importantly no leadership, just horrible body language from him, screwing up snap counts, lots of drives crippled by poor communication between him and his line.

 

[Russ Smith]

I had mixed feelings on Hundley until today. Now I'm pretty convinced he is a not a high level prospect. Dont like anything I saw, poor accuracy and more importantly no leadership, just horrible body language from him, screwing up snap counts, lots of drives crippled by poor communication between him and his line.

To be fair the OL today was pretty tough. They are starting 2 freshmen and 2 sophs. Then with injuries at one point they had a 3rd stringer playing RT and a 2nd stringer at G. The C, Brendel, kept snapping the ball low, and twice snapped the ball before he was supposed to almost leading to lost fumbles. With that much turnover on the OL I'm fairly certain that was the OL, not Hundley.

I think he'll play in the NFL but he's not ready now and I'm not convinced he will be by the end of the year. He absolutely should stay for his junior year.

I think he is a very good college QB, I'm not so sure he'll be a very good pro QB. As the announcer was saying today he's just not accurate enough in the intermediate throws. He is constantly moving his feet when he doesn't have to so when it comes time to throw the ball he's not set and he's not stepping into his throws. Palmer doesn't do all the toe tapping but he just throws off his back foot, with Hundley he just has the yips, very nervous feet. And then he compounds it by having no clue when to run, several times today he had an easy first down and didn't run.

As they said today, he's not accurate at all on the move, which for a mobile QB is a huge red flag IMO.

I still like Hogan but his windup release is really starting to nag at me. He has a strong enough arm to get away with it in college, but in the NFL that extra time results in nothing but problems. He too needs to stay in college and he really needs to fix that bad habit.

Anthony Barr was really quiet today largely by scheme, they either ran away from him, rolled the pocket away, or doubled him on damn near every play.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Anthony Barr was really quiet today largely by scheme, they either ran away from him, rolled the pocket away, or doubled him on damn near every play.

Anthony Barr is a bit too skinny; I watched both South Carolina vs. Tennessee and UCLA vs. Stanford, and Clowney is so much better of a prospect than Barr it's ridiculous.

 

[MrYeahBut]

Mettenberger stinking it up tonight. 2 picks in the end zone.

 

[WisconsinCard]

I think Johnny Football will stay in college for another year, and I think he would benefit from that greatly. I am not sold on Boyd, but he's growing on me. If the draft were today I would take Murray.

 

[Russ Smith]

Anthony Barr is a bit too skinny; I watched both South Carolina vs. Tennessee and UCLA vs. Stanford, and Clowney is so much better of a prospect than Barr it's ridiculous.

They play different positions. Barr is an OLB, Clowney is a DE.

That's like saying a CB isn't as good a prospect as a SS because he's skinnier.

Not saying Barr is a better prospect or not but he's a much more versatile player and he's only played 18 games of defense in his college career, despite being a senior he's actually less developed than most underclassmen.

Gil Brandt now has him ranked the #1 senior on his draft board. Bucky Brooks says there are legit arguments to draft Barr ahead of Clowney if you're a 3-4 defensive team.David Shaw compared him to Javon Kearse, Brooks to Von Miller. I expect Clowney to go first unless he has more issues, teams are afraid to be the one that passes on a freak athlete like that.

 

[ProdigalSun]

I wish Famous Jameis was coming out this year too

 

[Finito]

Taj Boyd? No thanks

 

[ProdigalSun]

I dont think Manziel has the arm strength or the speed that RG did, however... I have seen Johnny Football throw into tight windows for big completions, and make big throws against elite defenses. I did not see RGIII pull off that stuff, when I watched him he was running around making time with his feet and mostly throwing to wide open guys, the kind of throws that do not exist for the most part in the NFL.

any chance that giant of a receiver Mike Evans that he always throws to can be converted into a TE. That guy is legit

 

[GatorAZ]

I wish Famous Jameis was coming out this year too

He is unbelievable. You can mark me down for 0-16 right now.

 

[Finito]

Man Boyd is having the worst game of his career there all over him 2 picks and fumbnle . flat out staring down his wide receivers

Really impressed with FSU

 

[SECTION 11]

And just horrendous accuracy

 

[football karma]

Taj Boyd? No thanks

I am with you there

Looks great for a series /half/game -- but then, yikes

And he has had top notch skill people around him: Ellington, Hopkins, J Brown, Watkins.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I think Manziel is the only QB that would not fit well in Bruce Arians' offense. His whole game is based on the offense breaking down and making sensational plays out of nothing. I don't really see him being capable of reading the defense under center. I don't think he will be a good QB in the NFL. He's seriously a douche and doesn't have the leadership skills to be an NFL QB. Really doubtful that the Cards will take him imo. But hey if I'm wrong quote this

And yes I do think Mariota fits Arians' scheme just as well as the other QBs. He constantly scans the defense and definitely has an arm Arians would like. Only thing he'll have to learn how to do is take the ball under center which RG3 had to do and it worked out fine.

I thought the same about Manziel, but he does have arm strength and that is a fact. He would not be a sitting duck for a rebuilding line which is at least two years away from being NFL caliber with the teams applying pressure in our division. He is young, dumb and full of it and does not give a damn about our current history at the position which is a plus with heat he would be facing every week and he is a competitor. Ten to one I bet he can read a defense better than Palmer can LOL

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

There wasn't a QB I saw all day yesterday that looked anything like a NFL QB. I didn't see Derek Carr but his numbers(412 yds, 4TD, 0INT) were off the chart again. He may end up being the #2 QB off the board by default.

 

[Southpaw]

The big name hyped up glamor QBs aren't so glamorous.

QBs I like to watch;

Bryce Petty
Marcus Mariotti
anyone with a Texas Tech Uni on
Zach Mettenberger

 

[az jam]

Man Boyd is having the worst game of his career there all over him 2 picks and fumbnle . flat out staring down his wide receivers

Really impressed with FSU

I still like Boyd. FSU is the best team that I have seen this year. Their defense was just awesome. Boyd never had a chance.

 

[Russ Smith]

There wasn't a QB I saw all day yesterday that looked anything like a NFL QB. I didn't see Derek Carr but his numbers(412 yds, 4TD, 0INT) were off the chart again. He may end up being the #2 QB off the board by default.

Winston is awfully impressive. I didn't see the whole game but what I saw impressed me. He's the best QB prospect I've seen this year, I know he's not draft eligible but I think if he was he'd go first among the QB.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Winston is awfully impressive. I didn't see the whole game but what I saw impressed me. He's the best QB prospect I've seen this year, I know he's not draft eligible but I think if he was he'd go first among the QB.

yes he was.

I was talking about possible draft picks next year.

 

[Southpaw]

What some people saw in Boyd last night is what ACC watchers have seen for 3 years. Very gifted athlete. Limitations on QB skills. Locks on. Does not read progressions. Does not like the pocket. Panics easily. Will crap the sheets at the worst times. NFL defenses could eat him up.

 

[Chopper0080]

What some people saw in Boyd last night is what ACC watchers have seen for 3 years. Very gifted athlete. Limitations on QB skills. Locks on. Does not read progressions. Does not like the pocket. Panics easily. Will crap the sheets at the worst times. NFL defenses could eat him up.

Yeah, this has been my thought on him. All I have seen him do is beat up on crappy teams and fold when he plays against better talent. He could be better, but I haven't seen it and last night reinforced my opinions on him.

 

[Bodha]

1 bad game doesnt make a career. Boyd has been playing a long time and for every bad game like that, hes had 10 outstanding games.


Some guys like Manziel, hes look awful at times this year. Same goes for Mettenburger.

Hundley looked HORRIBLE vs Stanford



so FYI to all of you who require Peyton Manning in order to use a 1st round on a QB...not gonna happen


but this is a damn good QB class, we really cant go wrong.

 

[Chopper0080]

1 bad game doesnt make a career. Boyd has been playing a long time and for every bad game like that, hes had 10 outstanding games.


Some guys like Manziel, hes look awful at times this year. Same goes for Mettenburger.

Hundley looked HORRIBLE vs Stanford



so FYI to all of you who require Peyton Manning in order to use a 1st round on a QB...not gonna happen


but this is a damn good QB class, we really cant go wrong.

I'm not saying you are wrong, just that I have yet to see it in the handful of games I have watched Boyd.

 

[Buckybird]

Some guys like Manziel, hes look awful at times this year.

Please name that game? Outside of 2 or 3 throws, he's been phenomenal. IMO he's better at throwing the ball this year than his Heisman year.

 

[Bodha]

I wish Famous Jameis was coming out this year too

So the Jags could get a bangin QB?

We are forever a #5 pick+ team. The worst friggin zone ever. uuuuuuggggghh.