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Is Kyler Murray the answer at QB for next year and beyond?
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TheCardFan
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Kyler week 4 of 2021
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Jury is still out for me. This offense suits Murray better and I think we’re only seeing parts of it, as no point in fully exposing it. Once they get the personnel they need and have a training camp to install everything, I think what you saw in Philly you will see more often.
I’m not sure what exactly you are trying to prove with these 2 screenshots.. weapons, offensive scheme were way different. Could even argue 2021 pass pro was better at the time to free things up down field. It was a not a good but a great game by Kyler on Sunday.
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I didn't make the charts - just sharing.
Something that does stand out to me and something we can all agree that has been missing from Kyler's game since 2021 - deep shots/completions.
The 2 charts you mention from above post:
The chart from Eagles game - only one attempt past 15 yards and it was an INT.
Game 4 from 2021 - 9 over 15 yards including 3 TD's from over 15 yards (air yards)
Here is 2022 (left) vs 2021 (right)
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Yup stands out to me as well, but not sure how much weight it holds as supporting casts were completely different and so are the schemes. Who were we going to throw deep to last game?
Also, kinda cool to see how much of the middle of the field he used.. an area that’s been a big knock on him. Again - maybe just the scheme as well though.
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I also thought he made more timing passes. Someone told him to trust these WRs, which I could see him doubting, and he put out a lot more timing based passes right perfectly timed. Would LOVE to see that this next Sunday just to see it's not a fluke.
Chopper0080
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Now just imagine if Kyler had Brock Bowers to throw to instead of Higgins.
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Don't speak this evil into the world, Chopper.
Chopper0080
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lol. Fair point. I will find another way to troll.
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Hold onto the ball, Murray!
Hey, if Bowers were available with our 2nd pick...
Chopper0080
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TheCardFan
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Well -there you go.
This thread is officially dead.
This thread is officially dead.
'No Doubt' Kyler Murray Will Be Cardinals Quarterback
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i was a big opponent of K1 but now i am coming around to the build around kyler plan
If they can somehow build a solid run game around him to take the pressure off of him i believe he can be more than serviceable.
I just cant stand the run around/chuck it up spastic offense that KK had him running. I think Petzig and JG have shown he can manufacture drives when the offense is simplified
If they can somehow build a solid run game around him to take the pressure off of him i believe he can be more than serviceable.
I just cant stand the run around/chuck it up spastic offense that KK had him running. I think Petzig and JG have shown he can manufacture drives when the offense is simplified
Or maybe when it’s just an NFL offensive scheme? I’m excited for next year… I really hope they open up the playbook and get the defense on its heels questioning if he’s going to run it or pass it through rollouts
At least there is no history of Gannon saying something like this only to completely flip later and do the opposite.
You act like we signed nobody last offseason. It's a completely bogus argument.
Kyzir White is going to be starting ILB and was good before injury. Froholdt has been good and will almost certainly be next years starter. Carlos Watkins was a decent DT before injury. Krys Barnes has been better than Simmons at LB.
So we don't have to sign 2 offseasons worth of players in 1.
And again, the question that always goes unanswered. Who do you think we should have signed, and why would they have signed with us with a QB with a major injury?
I think Kyler had a good 2nd half on Sunday. I also think people are putting too much stock into a 2nd half performance against a team that lost 3 of 4 previously and who's defense has sucked.
He's been bad for several games and one half of decent QB play and were saved. I need to see a whole lot more of that before I change my mind.
He's been bad for several games and one half of decent QB play and were saved. I need to see a whole lot more of that before I change my mind.
Yet, several QB's Shanny has tried have come nowhere close to Purdy's numbers.
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You can denigrate the win if you want to, but it looks silly. Kyler pulling out a win on the road vs. an 11 win team with a team loaded with barely NFL talent was very impressive, and impressive enough to keep his job.
Luckily there are minds that are made that actually have decision making power!
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Yea, those type of posts are funny as hell. Like you’re the one that’s making the final decision lmao
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Well it looks like you’re going to wait 9 months for this to happen.
I'll take some hope from Sunday if he plays well. I'm consigned to him being here next year, I always thought that was the way the team would go.
He had some nice throws on Sunday with anticipation and good ball placement. Two things he has been missing.
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And those guys aren't really even good backups...
