Kyler Murray Debate Thread

[slanidrac16]

Go trade for Jameson Williams now.. he’s gotta be cheap after the gambling suspension, now 2 game PED suspension and how great Kahliff Raymond looked yesterday.

We aren’t going to suddenly start signing questionable character guys.

 

[slanidrac16]

the single most encouraging thing about yesterday: Kyler threw with timing, anticipation and accuracy

so many key throws, some on the run --

but: 2-15 on their 32 on the final drive to win it.

Kyler hits Marv on a deep in for 18 yds and a 1st down: over the LB, between the 2 safeties. It couldnt be a laser due to the underneath LB, but also needed pace to fit into a tight window. Its a throw the QB just has to trust that the WR is going to be there.

Its the kinda route and completion we just havent seen much of until yesterday-- and one where if teams are going to play shell, its one they have to hit regularly

This is one big thing we have been complaining about. Kudos this week and let’s hope it continues!

 

[DaHilg]

We aren’t going to suddenly start signing questionable character guys.

“The Patriot Way” does it all the time and turns them around

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Good to see he's still capable of it though.

What do you think we need to add specifically?

I know next season we need to add a downfield speed threat on offense. Even if he's just a #3. Threat of Waddle/Hill makes life a lot easier for Tua.

Don’t want to put words in dvontel’s post, but I think he means defense. And I agree.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

He had a good game today, but the reason this thread exists is because this below is a pretty common stat and it's been 5 years.

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That’s pretty crazy. 300, 2TD, 0int is a really good game, but it’s not as difficult to attain as this appears. It’s like searching for a unicorn.

That said, focusing solely on passing stats is a journey of futility with kyler (and dual threat QBs in general). It doesn’t tell the full story. For instance, if he threw for 220, TD, 0int and ran for 35-60 yards and a TD that’s just as good imo. It may not exactly equate in terms of total yards but we’ve all seen what kyler rushing for 35 yards can mean in opening up the run game for others.

 

[BritCard]

EZ angle is even better. Keeps his feet moving. Takes his time. Watches the safety bite on Wilson and drops it in a bucket.

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[BritCard]

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[Ronin]

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Kyler Murray 4th quarter stats the last four weeks: 24/32 (75%) for 253 yards with a TD and a 107 passer rating.The Arizona Cardinals are 3-1 during this stretch with three comebacks in the final frame. The Cards franchise QB has been money in crunch time.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

The little general! Somehow standing tall in the pocket at 5' 10"!

Also, you've permanently lost your seat on the bandwagon Britcard, so don't come crawling back after another great game by Murray!

Be a man and stand by all your wretched takes on K1!

As you are so wont to point out, this year six for Murray. He's not some rookie that figured things out between week one and week eight!

This is the QB that emerged from rehab 18 months ago! He's just been waiting for his teammates and OC to help him out a little!

This is a terrible post.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

“The Patriot Way” does it all the time and turns them around

Different culture.

 

[BritCard]

EZ angle is even better. Keeps his feet moving. Takes his time. Watches the safety bite on Wilson and drops it in a bucket.

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Undersold Kyler there. He moves the safety with his eyes.

That's the proper QB play I've been waiting for.

 

[DaHilg]

Different culture.

Referencing Monti’s background.

 

[phillycard]

I don't love going overboard with the praise when he does well (recalling the inconsistency), but man, this was a great segment! And, credit to Kyler, I think he is putting in the work now that he didn't necessarily do in the past.

Stout, I thought of you on that 3rd down run. Your QB was PHYSICAL! No sliding down avoiding contact like in the eagles game we lost in AZ. #1 was fantastic yesterday.

 

[Vacard]

Elite ball placement

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[football karma]

Elite ball placement

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omg on this throw

 

[BritCard]

The reason for this thread and why there are 2 sides summed up

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[daves]

EZ angle is even better. Keeps his feet moving. Takes his time. Watches the safety bite on Wilson and drops it in a bucket.

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Exactly what Kurt Warner pointed out last week: plays are there to be made if Murray is a little more patient in the pocket and waits for routes to develop so he can see who's going to come open. Great to see!

 

[AZ Native]

Granted, I have not read all the posts on this thread. But the most impressive Kyler moment to me was the 3rd and 4 where he was running and about 7 yards from a first down, stopped and picked his spot and dove through a hole and picked up the first down. No sliding, he went for it. An all Pro move.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Granted, I have not read all the post on this thread. But the most impressive Kyler moment to me was the 3rd and 4 where he was running and about 7 yards from a first down, stopped and picked his spot and dove through a hole and picked up the first own. No sliding, he went for it. An all Pro move.

That was my favorite play of the entire game… and probably the season.

For years, we’ve seen that play but he takes it outside and doesn’t do everything he can to get the first (likely to save himself from major impact). But here, he puts it all on the line, is patient, uses his legs to juke a defender and then cut back inside to get the crucial first down to run the clock down for a walk-off.

That was a LEADERSHIP play. Loved it.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

That was my favorite play of the entire game… and probably the season.

For years, we’ve seen that play but he takes it outside and doesn’t do everything he can to get the first (likely to save himself from major impact). But here, he puts it all on the line, is patient, uses his legs to juke a defender and then cut back inside to get the crucial first down to run the clock down for a walk-off.

That was a LEADERSHIP play. Loved it.

Its the best run of his career. He committed to attacking the defense and getting the first down instead of sliding / running out of bounds.

 

[Stout]

Stout, I thought of you on that 3rd down run. Your QB was PHYSICAL! No sliding down avoiding contact like in the eagles game we lost in AZ. #1 was fantastic yesterday.

Oh yeah, I loved that play!

 

[SoonerLou]

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[kerouac9]

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OOF. Tough lyric choice there

 

[Crimson Warrior]

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Good to see those two team leaders getting along.

It's always bothered me, and I'll never forget it as long as I live.

When Budda was laid on the field in that dreadful LA playoff game, and the entire team was gathered around him except for Murray and Colt who were on the bench looking at an ipad. Colt there at Murray's behest I'm sure.

That chilled me to the bone. At that moment K1's place was on the field with his fallen comrade.

But we all make mistakes, and with enough penance, it can be forgiven.

 

[Chopper0080]

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There is always recency bias, but the game vs Miami might be the best passing game I have seen from Kyler in his career.