Kyler Murray Debate Thread

602 Native

Hall of Famer
Joined
Nov 1, 2023
Posts
1,265
Reaction score
2,663
Location
Gilbert
They are discussing it now on ESPN. Anybody know what they’re saying I don’t have sound at the gym.
You must be registered for see images attach
Can't wait to have some games flexed for Sunday Night Football.

Fully expect the Whiners game for sure and maybe one more.
 

Crimson Warrior

Dangerous Murray Zealot
Joined
Oct 27, 2002
Posts
8,211
Reaction score
9,389
Location
Home of the Thunder
Can't wait to have some games flexed for Sunday Night Football.

Fully expect the Whiners game for sure and maybe one more.

I think this version of Murray is more ready for the big stage. We'll see.

Unfortunately his detractors (or skeptics) can still argue he hasn't played well in a really important game at the professional level. It's a thing unfortunately.
 

602 Native

Hall of Famer
Joined
Nov 1, 2023
Posts
1,265
Reaction score
2,663
Location
Gilbert
I think this version of Murray is more ready for the big stage. We'll see.

Unfortunately his detractors (or skeptics) can still argue he hasn't played well in a really important game at the professional level. It's a thing unfortunately.
Lets get there first then talk about how he will do.

We have only been to the playoffs 7 times since the Cards moved here one of those by K1
 

BirdGangThing

Cultist
Joined
Dec 27, 2019
Posts
15,421
Reaction score
21,234
Location
Arcadia
I don't like having to wait all day to watch the game - but preparing for a game that's been moved to prime time has to be more like preparing for a playoff game which could be good for us

but id still rather have the division locked up and rest certain starters when we see the whiners again
 

602 Native

Hall of Famer
Joined
Nov 1, 2023
Posts
1,265
Reaction score
2,663
Location
Gilbert
I don't like having to wait all day to watch the game - but preparing for a game that's been moved to prime time has to be more like preparing for a playoff game which could be good for us

but id still rather have the division locked up and rest certain starters when we see the whiners again
I like where your heads at.

The Whiners do have a much more difficult schedule down the stretch so you might be right.
 

Brian in Mesa

Advocatus Diaboli
Super Moderator
Moderator
Supporting Member
Joined
May 13, 2002
Posts
72,580
Reaction score
24,036
Location
Killjoy Central
We have only been to the playoffs 7 times since the Cards moved here one of those by K1
I only count 6.

1998 Plummer - beat the Cowboys, lost to the Vikings
2008 Warner - beat the Falcons, Panthers, and Eagles, lost to the Steelers in the Super Bowl
2009 Warner - beat the Packers, lost to the Saints (SB winner)
2014 Palmer - lost to the Panthers
2015 Palmer - beat the Packers, lost to the Panthers (SB loser)
2021 Murray - lost to the Rams (SB winner)
 

bankybruce

All In!
Supporting Member
Banned from P+R
Joined
Mar 28, 2003
Posts
31,302
Reaction score
27,735
Location
Nowhere
I only count 6.

1998 Plummer - beat the Cowboys, lost to the Vikings
2008 Warner - beat the Falcons, Panthers, and Eagles, lost to the Steelers in the Super Bowl
2009 Warner - beat the Packers, lost to the Saints (SB winner)
2014 Palmer - lost to the Panthers
2015 Palmer - beat the Packers, lost to the Panthers (SB loser)
2021 Murray - lost to the Rams (SB winner)
2024, duh!

2024 Murray - beat the Packers, Lions, Eagles and Chiefs to win the Super Bowl
 

602 Native

Hall of Famer
Joined
Nov 1, 2023
Posts
1,265
Reaction score
2,663
Location
Gilbert
Oh Mina Kimes
Wish she would go back to being a failed financial analyst.

xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media
 

602 Native

Hall of Famer
Joined
Nov 1, 2023
Posts
1,265
Reaction score
2,663
Location
Gilbert
I only count 6.

1998 Plummer - beat the Cowboys, lost to the Vikings
2008 Warner - beat the Falcons, Panthers, and Eagles, lost to the Steelers in the Super Bowl
2009 Warner - beat the Packers, lost to the Saints (SB winner)
2014 Palmer - lost to the Panthers
2015 Palmer - beat the Packers, lost to the Panthers (SB loser)
2021 Murray - lost to the Rams (SB winner)
My bad must have counted an extra one.

Such a sad history.
 

HairZach

Hall of Famer
Joined
Sep 7, 2020
Posts
1,446
Reaction score
3,001
Location
VA
We in agreement that even though Kyler & Kliff have/had their own individual problems, Steve Keim the main problem, correct?
For sure. We might still have Kliff if Keim had resigned Reddick/Campbell, drafted DK/Terry instead of Isabella, drafted Lamb/Wirfs instead of Simmons, and drafted Linderbaum instead of trading for Hollywood.
 

SoonerLou

ASFN Addict
Joined
Sep 15, 2019
Posts
8,139
Reaction score
12,232
Location
St Louis, MO
I think this version of Murray is more ready for the big stage. We'll see.

Unfortunately his detractors (or skeptics) can still argue he hasn't played well in a really important game at the professional level. It's a thing unfortunately.
I was thinking about making a will things be different to end the year thread.

2020 and 2021 had very positive positive results the 1st 10 games. Guys like Keim and Kliff are gone. I used injuries to Kyler (2020) and DHop (2021) back in the day to defend or excuse those rough stretches. However, we're healthy now (knock on wood) and he's too old and highly paid to defend not getting it done now anyway.

I think how they respond after the bye will tell us a lot about Kyler and this team. Imo we NEED to win the next two games to secure the playoffs. 49ers are still talented enough to flip a switch and be dominant. We already lost tiebreakers to the Packers/Commanders. Cant afford losing another to the Vikings potentially. Win the next 2 and we may very well run the table until the last two and who knows...

Maybe Stout or Brit will make that thread anyway.
 

K1Day1

Veteran
Joined
Nov 11, 2019
Posts
179
Reaction score
317
Location
Avondale
For sure. We might still have Kliff if Keim had resigned Reddick/Campbell, drafted DK/Terry instead of Isabella, drafted Lamb/Wirfs instead of Simmons, and drafted Linderbaum instead of trading for Hollywood.
I think you pretty much hit the nail on the head as to why he is no longer the GM LOL ! !
 
OP
OP
Chris_Sanders

Chris_Sanders

Not Always The Best Moderator
Super Moderator
Moderator
Supporting Member
Joined
Sep 14, 2002
Posts
40,113
Reaction score
31,568
Location
Scottsdale, Az
BIM didn't answer but i really hope there was a lot of fanfare for reaching #3 all time during a low stress ass kicking of the other team.

If not...man Michael what are you doing
 

Shane

Comin for you!
Super Moderator
Moderator
Supporting Member
Joined
May 13, 2002
Posts
68,917
Reaction score
38,662
Location
Las Vegas
BIM didn't answer but i really hope there was a lot of fanfare for reaching #3 all time during a low stress ass kicking of the other team.

If not...man Michael what are you doing
I don't remember any delays on the broadcast or play stoppage? But I don't recall any over the decades of watching football either for #3 on a list or even #2 just being #1?
 
OP
OP
Chris_Sanders

Chris_Sanders

Not Always The Best Moderator
Super Moderator
Moderator
Supporting Member
Joined
Sep 14, 2002
Posts
40,113
Reaction score
31,568
Location
Scottsdale, Az
I don't remember any delays on the broadcast or play stoppage? But I don't recall any over the decades of watching football either for #3 on a list or even #2 just being #1?

I definitely recall Palmer's stuff being on the board. It's usually during a TV timeout though so only the live crowd gets it.
 
Top