Kyler Murray Debate Thread

[Russ Smith]

I'd have to look for it but AJ literally admitted after the game it was his fault. Everyone else on the team knew what was happening, he just missed the call.

First article I found quotes Kliff saying AJ ran the wrong route, he apparently either didn't get the play call or just ran the wrong route, Kliff didn't say. Kyler said he had no idea what happened it was just miscommunication they'd have to talk about it, so he hadn't spoken to Green yet.

When the play happened, Aikman was doing the game and he said I have no idea what AJ Green is thinking he's out there blocking like he thinks it's a run and then he saw how Douglas was reacting but it was too late to turn for the throw.

Kliff said they checked to another play at the LOS, it was cover zero and he said it was absolutely the right check and the right read by Kyler, it was thrown to the right guy in the right location, if he knew the route to run it was the right play.

If I had to guess I think the play was a run play, Kyler checked to a pass play because he read the defense, AJ missed the check and was out there run blocking. If you watch every one else on the field knew what was going on there wasn't a single other player that was run blocking. So Green was the only guy who didn't get the call.

 

[602 Native]

First article I found quotes Kliff saying AJ ran the wrong route, he apparently either didn't get the play call or just ran the wrong route, Kliff didn't say. Kyler said he had no idea what happened it was just miscommunication they'd have to talk about it, so he hadn't spoken to Green yet.

When the play happened, Aikman was doing the game and he said I have no idea what AJ Green is thinking he's out there blocking like he thinks it's a run and then he saw how Douglas was reacting but it was too late to turn for the throw.

Kliff said they checked to another play at the LOS, it was cover zero and he said it was absolutely the right check and the right read by Kyler, it was thrown to the right guy in the right location, if he knew the route to run it was the right play.

If I had to guess I think the play was a run play, Kyler checked to a pass play because he read the defense, AJ missed the check and was out there run blocking. If you watch every one else on the field knew what was going on there wasn't a single other player that was run blocking. So Green was the only guy who didn't get the call.

Why are we talking about this play still?

 

[Stout]

Rookie Year = Elite
MVP Front Runner = Elite
Made Playoffs = Elite

Over a 6 year period K1 is for sure an elite QB in the NFL.

Only fans in AZ who championed scrubs like Hall, Skelton, and Anderson disagree.

Yes, many elite quarterbacks make one playoff appearance in 5 years without winning a playoff game! Pretty routine stuff.

If the Cards are a joke franchise, the idea that Kyler is an elite quarterback is a GD comedy show.

 

[Stout]

You guys should really look at how many players come and go in the NFL over a 6 year period.
Look real closely at the QBs that have been drafted and signed as FAs at during that time.

K1 is for sure an elite NFL QB and player.

If you say it enough times and click your heels together, you might make it back to Kansas!

 

[GeorgiaCard88]

Yes, many elite quarterbacks make one playoff appearance in 5 years without winning a playoff game! Pretty routine stuff.

If the Cards are a joke franchise, the idea that Kyler is an elite quarterback is a GD comedy show.

But dude- the water boy gave Kyler Powerade instead of G2 Gatorade last game- how you can expect Kyler to win in those kind of conditions. FIRE THE WATER BOY

 

[Stout]

But dude- the water boy gave Kyler Powerade instead of G2 Gatorade last game- how you can expect Kyler to win in those kind of conditions. FIRE THE WATER BOY

The water boy must not be elite and it's clearly his fault! Goodness, it can't be Kyler's fault!

 

[Crimson Warrior]

But dude- the water boy gave Kyler Powerade instead of G2 Gatorade last game- how you can expect Kyler to win in those kind of conditions. FIRE THE WATER BOY

Soooooooooo funny.

 

[DaHilg]

Soooooooooo funny.

lol exactly what I was thinking.. someone typed that and thought it was hilarious?

 

[Stout]

Well, what do you expect? When posters come to this thread and read how Kyler is the bestest ever OMG, that's going to cause a blowback. My advice is to just let @602 Native reap his whirlwind and let the crazy die out.

At least there's a game tomorrow to distract from this foolishness.

 

[602 Native]

Well, what do you expect? When posters come to this thread and read how Kyler is the bestest ever OMG, that's going to cause a blowback. My advice is to just let @602 Native reap his whirlwind and let the crazy die out.

At least there's a game tomorrow to distract from this foolishness.

Again the only people that don’t think K1 is a great QB are Cards fans.

The consensus in the NFL and even the media who hate Arizona teams know that K1 is a top NFL QB.

Again you guys have been wrong about everything concerning K1

 

[602 Native]

But dude- the water boy gave Kyler Powerade instead of G2 Gatorade last game- how you can expect Kyler to win in those kind of conditions. FIRE THE WATER BOY

The water boy must not be elite and it's clearly his fault! Goodness, it can't be Kyler's fault!

These jokes are as fresh as your K1 takes

 

[BritCard]

Again the only people that don’t think K1 is a great QB are Cards fans.

The consensus in the NFL and even the media who hate Arizona teams know that K1 is a top NFL QB.

Again you guys have been wrong about everything concerning K1

This is funny.

The NFL Reddit board did a vote before the season. It had over 100k votes. Kyler was 17th.

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[unseenaz]

Making the playoffs 1 year out of 6 and then getting embarrassed isn't elite.

Being a MVP favorite in week 6 and then not even getting a vote at the end of the season is not elite. To this point, Trevor Lawrence has finished closer to a MVP than Kyler and you have repeatedly said he is not elite. (and I agree about Lawrence)

Rookie of the year...sure.

Kyler's NFL production has not been elite in any way, shape, or form outside of rushing at times.

Josh Jacobs should have won rookie of the year

ducks

 

[kerouac9]

Again the only people that don’t think K1 is a great QB are Cards fans.

The consensus in the NFL and even the media who hate Arizona teams know that K1 is a top NFL QB.

Again you guys have been wrong about everything concerning K1

Top what? I’m sure there are AT LEAST 10 QBs NFL teams would take ahead of Kyler. Kyler is 7th on the Ringer’s QB rankings as they’re as big Kyler fans as there are.

This is funny.

The NFL Reddit board did a vote before the season. It had over 100k votes. Kyler was 17th.

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You’re not doing yourself any favors posting Reddit surveys. Super-lame.

 

[unseenaz]

Top what? I’m sure there are AT LEAST 10 QBs NFL teams would take ahead of Kyler. Kyler is 7th on the Ringer’s QB rankings as they’re as big Kyler fans as there are.



You’re not doing yourself any favors posting Reddit surveys. Super-lame.

100,000 votes is still 100,000 votes, regardless of how braindead reddit posters are.

 

[DVontel]

100,000 votes is still 100,000 votes, regardless of how braindead reddit posters are.

So there’s 100,000 braindead voters?

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

This is funny.

The NFL Reddit board did a vote before the season. It had over 100k votes. Kyler was 17th.

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Lol @ Cousins being 10th. Garbage

 

[Stout]

Again the only people that don’t think K1 is a great QB are Cards fans.

The consensus in the NFL and even the media who hate Arizona teams know that K1 is a top NFL QB.

Again you guys have been wrong about everything concerning K1

Yeah, no, not even close! Just here in Pittsburgh alone, he's known as anything from a total laughingstock of a QB (one prominent show) to exactly what most of us know him to be, a mid QB (another show that does weekly QB rankings had him appropriately at 12 this week). How do NFC west sports hosts view him? Probably as a mid QB.

We've been wrong about everything concerning K1? Then clearly we were wrong to praise his great games. He must've sucked in them.

See how utterly ignorant your statement and hatred is? It's just devoid of reality. When he's good he gets plaudits; when he's bad he gets crushed. When he's mid he gets meh. Easy to understand to those who don't have a closed off thought process.

 

[Stout]

Lol @ Cousins being 10th. Garbage

He certainly hasn't won less playoff games than Kyler and has had an incredible statistical superiority over him.

 

[DaHilg]

He certainly hasn't won less playoff games than Kyler and has had an incredible statistical superiority over him.

Stout, amigo.. you’re relentless. Please don’t jump on the bandwagon should we win on Sunday and he has a big game. Your hatred for the guy is sick.

 

[WisconsinCard]

Stout, amigo.. you’re relentless. Please don’t jump on the bandwagon should we win on Sunday and he has a big game. Your hatred for the guy is sick.

I think there are only about 4 people on the bandwagon. One of if which is the driver, so I would think they would take anybody they could get.

 

[DaHilg]

I think there are only about 4 people on the bandwagon. One of if which is the driver, so I would think they would take anybody they could get.

Okay.. that was funny

 

[602 Native]

Yeah, no, not even close! Just here in Pittsburgh alone, he's known as anything from a total laughingstock of a QB (one prominent show) to exactly what most of us know him to be, a mid QB (another show that does weekly QB rankings had him appropriately at 12 this week). How do NFC west sports hosts view him? Probably as a mid QB.

We've been wrong about everything concerning K1? Then clearly we were wrong to praise his great games. He must've sucked in them.

See how utterly ignorant your statement and hatred is? It's just devoid of reality. When he's good he gets plaudits; when he's bad he gets crushed. When he's mid he gets meh. Easy to understand to those who don't have a closed off thought process.

As a Cards fan Pittsburgh is the last city I would associate myself with.

Talk about terrible.

 

[Stout]

Stout, amigo.. you’re relentless. Please don’t jump on the bandwagon should we win on Sunday and he has a big game. Your hatred for the guy is sick.

Right. All that hatred I showed when I sang the guy's praises when he went gangbusters in a few games this season. i want you back here talking about how bad I hate him when I give him praise. Your nickname becomes "Ghost" about the absurdly acronym-labeled "IHKC" when he plays well and gets praise.

 

[Stout]

As a Cards fan Pittsburgh is the last city I would associate myself with.

Talk about terrible.

So, the narrative that everyone outside of Arizona loves Kyler isn't true so you simply bash the city of Pittsburgh? Standard practice for you.

You do realize that they don't hate Arizona here. They really don't think about Arizona at all.