Kyler Murray Debate Thread

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I’ll even add on to my earlier post


Jayden Daniels will pass up one of the top 4 realllll soon.
 

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The toughest I've seen Kyler play was the 1st half of 2020. So unafraid to run, willing to run double digit time. I remember either me or someone else making a thread about Kyler bulking up too much that its impacting his throwing.

Then he hurt his shoulder trying to run over a DB and we've never seen that level of aggression again.

Its possible for Kyler to be very successful. However, he's gotta be willing to carry the ball 8 to 10 times like Jayden and Hurts. However, as K9 said he just doesn't have that short area toughness.

Lack of toughness and small is such a bad combination in the NFL. It leads to inconsistency.
 

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I was hoping to be done with this thread ! !... It's a question I wonder... ! ! ! Do you blame one player, or even " One or two players " for an organizations failures? I was a Kliff Kingsbury fan however, at the time I thought the problem was Steve Keim ( who takes Isiah Simmons over Cee Dee Lamb and even Deebo Samuel " especially when your QB is begging the organization to take Cee Dee Lamb ." The Cardinals do. That's who. ).
Every talking head that bashed Kliff Kingsbury's offense in now praising it ( NOW THAT HE IS NO LONGER IN ARIZONA ! ! ). It does make a person wonder and curious about questions concerning this organization and the owners interest..
Is this team just simply revenue for Bidwill like it was for his father? Considering players are bashed when they play for the Cardinals, but praised when they leave ( Is it a National media issue ). It does seem interesting ! !
 

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I was hoping to be done with this thread ! !... It's a question I wonder... ! ! ! Do you blame one player, or even " One or two players " for an organizations failures? I was a Kliff Kingsbury fan however, at the time I thought the problem was Steve Keim ( who takes Isiah Simmons over Cee Dee Lamb and even Deebo Samuel " especially when your QB is begging the organization to take Cee Dee Lamb ." The Cardinals do. That's who. ).
Every talking head that bashed Kliff Kingsbury's offense in now praising it ( NOW THAT HE IS NO LONGER IN ARIZONA ! ! ). It does make a person wonder and curious about questions concerning this organization and the owners interest..
Is this team just simply revenue for Bidwill like it was for his father? Considering players are bashed when they play for the Cardinals, but praised when they leave ( Is it a National media issue ). It does seem interesting ! !
Deebo Samuel = completely overrated minus one season
 

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I still think Detroit has the better team by far. But I have to admire what Kliff has done with this rookie QB.

When healthy Detroit rolls, but they’re too injured.
I’ll even add on to my earlier post


Jayden Daniels will pass up one of the top 4 realllll soon.

There’s room for five in the top tier. Or second tier after Patrick.

Herbert
Darnold
Goff

I don’t want to hear about these QBs ever again in relation to being better than K1.

Agreed. All are clearly better than Kyler. Yall love to enjoy some recency bias.

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Complete seasons my guy.

Goff and Herbert will get passes for their 4 turnover days. Kinda inexcusable for Goff. At least that Texans defense was on fire vs Herbert.

Zero difference
you can bring up 87 different quarterbacks while lying your ass off - and daniels will still have more playoff wins than kyler murray - try to keep up

Daniel’s looks good who is denying that?

You wanted Darnild Herbert and Goff.

They are no better than K1.
 

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Daniel’s looks good who is denying that?

You wanted Darnild Herbert and Goff.

They are no better than K1.
omg - did you have to wear inflatable helmets as a child? i never wanted darnold or herbert - im done talking to you man it's a complete waste of time - i actually feel bad for kyler lol - you're not championing his cause - your constant indigestible drivel only hurts it - so take care
 
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Deebo Samuel = completely overrated minus one season
And CeeDee Lamb?
Who Murray basically went on Every platform to beg Keim to draft? You seem to be missing the Forrest for the Trees ! ! Great on you to want to bash but what Exactly does Murray have to do with the fact that this organization has struggled, and the FACT that the ONLY time players and coaches get any respect is when they leave..
 

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Hopefully last post on this thread ! !
Have you wondered why the NFL talking heads and the NFL insiders are linking a Murray trade to the Steelers ( For Fields, or Wilson ) or, the Vikings ( For J.J McCarthy ) So hard ! ! Both are Playoff teams ! !
Now I'm sure someone will respond with a comment or link about a trade to the Browns or a lesser team but my question is valid.
Are we missing the Forrest for the trees? Keim had a drinking problem. You would be insane to think Bidwill didn't know ( Not when you have that much money at stake ). Budda Baker is a pro bowler, Kyler Murray is a pro bowler, Trey Mcbride is definitely pto bowl material. I'm just wondering if these guys will get their props, or flowers, when they leave the Cardinals ! !
 

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