Kyler Murray Debate Thread

[daves]

The guy that computed these stats is the same guy that said MHJ dropped one ball all year.

I think most of MHJ's drops are technically marked as pass breakups for the stat counters. But anyone who watched Larry Fitzgerald play knows those breakups were on Marv.

Has Odegard ever stated the source of his "one drop" stat for Harrison?

As far as I can tell, it's not a stat that's officially tracked by the NFL.

I've only found three sources that include drops among receiver stats, and none mentions where they get their stats:

Pro Football Reference shows 5 drops for Harrison.
FantasyPros also shows 5 drops.
PlayerProfiler.com (never heard of them before) shows 3 drops for Harrison.
Pro Football Focus also seems to track drops, but that column seems to be behind a paywall.

Certainly drops are a subjective stat, but I haven't found any sites that claim Harrison only had one drop, and my eyes tell me there were about 5 obvious and egregious ones.

He did seem to improve greatly in that department in the second half of the season, and ended up fairly far down the list in terms of drop % for the season.

 

[602 Native]

Apparently we are trading K1 to the Jets.

Proabably the same reporters that said he would sit out the 2023 season.

K1 is so terrible he is always talked about as being traded.

Don't these reporters know he is too short to play QB at a high level in the NFL.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Apparently we are trading K1 to the Jets.

Proabably the same reporters that said he would sit out the 2023 season.

K1 is so terrible he is always talked about as being traded.

Don't these reporters know he is too short to play QB at a high level in the NFL.

If we can get a good trade package from the Jets I'd be very happy. You just can't expect a player to change significantly in year 7.

 

[Solar7]

Apparently we are trading K1 to the Jets.

Proabably the same reporters that said he would sit out the 2023 season.

K1 is so terrible he is always talked about as being traded.

Don't these reporters know he is too short to play QB at a high level in the NFL.

It's not unrealistic to have another team out there with the hubris to think they can "fix" Kyler, or put more around him depending on where their franchise currently is, or their coaching staff. Kyler has tantalizing physical traits... but many of us (myself included) believe he is what is he is, at least on this team.

Like ASUCHRIS said, I'd take a nice haul for him in a heartbeat, since we basically know we've got a guy whose best work is going to be getting us to around .500.

 

[BirdGangThing]

for quinnen williams and the 7th pick in this draft i'd giftwrap murray myself

 

[SoonerLou]

Apparently we are trading K1 to the Jets.

Proabably the same reporters that said he would sit out the 2023 season.

K1 is so terrible he is always talked about as being traded.

Don't these reporters know he is too short to play QB at a high level in the NFL.

I think him and the Cards need a fresh start. Not sure its happening here.

 

[BritCard]

Apparently we are trading K1 to the Jets.

Proabably the same reporters that said he would sit out the 2023 season.

K1 is so terrible he is always talked about as being traded.

Don't these reporters know he is too short to play QB at a high level in the NFL.

Jeez man you got my hopes up with line 1 then.