Logan Thomas Claimed by Dolphins

[binkar]

This makes me sick to my stomach. Best, toughest tackler in pre-season on a team that needs tacklers. Let's face it BA's Cardinals are more about finesse and sucking up to a bunch of hammy pulled vets.

John Fox is a defensive HC---the Bears were soft on D under Trestman---moves like this will help Fox turn the tables.

Plus---the Bears were 7th in the waiver claim order---so Jones-Quartey didn't make it past team #7. That says something.

Please explain this. Not trying to be rude, but I don't really understand the connection between this and the release of Jones-Quartey. I did like the way JQ tackled in the pre-season, but I don't get the connection between him and BA sucking up to hammy pulled vets. Also, how has he sucking up to them?

 

[GuernseyCard]

"I have faith in BA/the front office". I'm always intrigued by this line of though as a defense of a roster move. I mean, in this case they were wrong about a guy, right? Why does that instill faith?

Easy. They replaced the 120th pick of the 4th round with the 98th.

Does this renew your faith?

Does wonders for mine... (lol)

 

[GuernseyCard]

I think that good tackling is contagious and I felt that HJQ set a real tone for the Denver game with his tackles and I saw Brooks and Roberts and others tackling like they hadn't all pre-season. Obviously, the Bears were paying attention and imo they got a steal and a player we should have never risked losing.

As for cutting someone to make a statement, it's not what any coach would prefer to do, but when it gets to the point where a player is on the sidelines every week for weeks on end, it sure sends a message to the rest of the team if that player is released. It's the same as the guy at work who keeps calling in sick---after a while everyone gets fed up.

We lost a Jefferson clone... but kept the original...

Sorry... but this is no big deal!

 

[Mitch]

We lost a Jefferson clone... but kept the original...

Sorry... but this is no big deal!

Jefferson is a SS. HJQ can play both FS and SS. There was more potential credence in your Barkley conspiracy than this.

 

[Mitch]

Lasike to Bears PS

Per MJ

 

[GuernseyCard]

Jefferson is a SS. HJQ can play both FS and SS. There was more potential credence in your Barkley conspiracy than this.

We're all familiar with your hobby horses.

This is just the latest.

If there is one thing we are not short of is quality at safety, and perhaps, just perhaps, BASK were not as impressed by his work against 3rd and 4th stringers as you.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Quartey would've been the 6th safety. I would have liked him on the PS but 5 is a huge number when it comes to roster spots and the safety position.

The Cards know what they are getting in Clemons, as he has performed, and played well in the league. All we know about Quartey is that he can hit. There's a lot more that a veteran can add to the team than that in Clemons.

 

[Mitch]

Quartey would've been the 6th safety. I would have liked him on the PS but 5 is a huge number when it comes to roster spots and the safety position.

The Cards know what they are getting in Clemons, as he has performed, and played well in the league. All we know about Quartey is that he can hit. There's a lot more that a veteran can add to the team than that in Clemons.

Bucannon is playing LB, which is why Jefferson is starting at SS. HJQ would have been the #5 safety, and Honey Badger can also play CB. Keeping HJQ was very doable. Plus, we need depth at safety because Bettcher is planning on playing 4 safety packages.

 

[b8rtm8nn]

Bucannon is playing LB, which is why Jefferson is starting at SS. HJQ would have been the #5 safety, and Honey Badger can also play CB. Keeping HJQ was very doable. Plus, we need depth at safety because Bettcher is planning on playing 4 safety packages.

If HJQ was awesome at ST, he would have made the active roster - apparently he wasn't. I would have taken him over Golden, but I also would have kept Kerwynn on the squad as a kick returner - but tough decisions have to be made and I can't fault spots going to some vets given the amount of youth on the team at the LB position and DL. I'm actually glad we have Fua, he may be able to take Bucannon out of ILB over the course of the season.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Bucannon is playing LB, which is why Jefferson is starting at SS. HJQ would have been the #5 safety, and Honey Badger can also play CB. Keeping HJQ was very doable. Plus, we need depth at safety because Bettcher is planning on playing 4 safety packages.

I just think the bottom line is Clemons is a better player right now than Quartey. He's a veteran that when called upon is going to know what to do back there and is a guy you can count on doing what is right. Quartey, who is from Columbus btw, is an UDFA from Findlay college who showed in meaningless pre-season games.

I like him, but keeping Clemons over him, I'll bet, was not even a hard, or close, decision by the staff.

 

[gmabel830]

I just think the bottom line is Clemons is a better player right now than Quartey. He's a veteran that when called upon is going to know what to do back there and is a guy you can't count on doing what is right. Quartey, who is from Columbus btw, is an UDFA from Findlay college who showed in meaningless pre-season games.

I like him, but keeping Clemons over him, I'll bet, was not even a hard, or close, decision by the staff.

You shut your mouth with your logic!

 

[Harry]

At the risk of monotony, Thomas never was and never will be an NFL productive QB. I believe it's a quote from Robert Heinlein: "Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig."

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Good post, Catfish. What I am wondering now is just how much interest our waived players are getting from other teams who are offering them spots on their practice squads. A guy like Shipley might look at the Cardinals' depth at WR and pick a team where he might have a better chance.

Shipley's route running, hands and vision on punt returns are extraordinary and well worth keeping. So, I hope they can retain him on the PS.

Harold Jones-Quartey made more impressive, textbook tackles in 4 games than we have seen from Patrick Peterson in 4 years. I kept wishing and thinking to myself, maybe HJQ's tackling will rub off on Peterson and other DBs not named Bucannon or Mathieu.

The fact that BA didn't even try to find a way to use Thomas as a situational TE or STs player---and quit on him this fast is largely disturbing.

The fact that any team can pluck a player from any practice squad should tell a player they should sign to a squad where they will get the best coaching possible. More than likely they aren't going to get selected to an active roster, so getting the best coaching possible and looking to get more game tape action in the next preseason should be a priority.

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[Mitch]

I just think the bottom line is Clemons is a better player right now than Quartey. He's a veteran that when called upon is going to know what to do back there and is a guy you can count on doing what is right. Quartey, who is from Columbus btw, is an UDFA from Findlay college who showed in meaningless pre-season games.

I like him, but keeping Clemons over him, I'll bet, was not even a hard, or close, decision by the staff.

Honest to goodness, had HJQ played the way he did with the Cardinals as a player at Ohio St., he would have been a top 100 pick in the draft. His game tape at Findlay is outstanding, which is what got me excited about him in the first place. I am thinking the opposite as you---I bet the coaches were hoping to sneak him through waivers and now they are regretting the decision.

Of course, it didn't help either that several AZ media guys including Somers singled his release out yesterday in tweets citing his "strong pre-season" and the Cardinals' intention to sign him immediately to the PS.

 

[moklerman]

Easy. They replaced the 120th pick of the 4th round with the 98th.

Does this renew your faith?

Does wonders for mine... (lol)

I'm not really knocking the regime, they've done a good job, rather the blind faith argument.

While I agree that they have seen him in practice and behind the scenes as well as having a ton of experience to probably be making an educated decision, the fact of the matter is, they took him in the first place. I can buy an argument of "realizing their mistake" but it just seems contradictory to just "have faith" when they may not necessarily have earned it.

 

[GuernseyCard]

I'm not really knocking the regime, they've done a good job, rather the blind faith argument.

While I agree that they have seen him in practice and behind the scenes as well as having a ton of experience to probably be making an educated decision, the fact of the matter is, they took him in the first place. I can buy an argument of "realizing their mistake" but it just seems contradictory to just "have faith" when they may not necessarily have earned it.

Don't know what you need, but 21 wins over 2 seasons has earned a lot of cred with me.

Do you think Pats fans knash their teeth over the host of butchered picks by the Foxboro genius?

Hasn't prevented him from fielding competitive teams.

 

[cardncubfan]

In AZ right now, will do when I get back to LA AND ON OPENING DAY. As there is still time to cut his azzzz!

Just busting your chops Liac.

 

[cardncubfan]

Jones -Quartey has a great motor,...but he played out of control and was undisciplined so I understand why he was cut.... "The Cardinals will not beat the Cardinals" could not be said with Jones-Quartey on the field.

The LT thing still has me stumped. The youngster has it all,....just needs some miles on him,...... I hope he does well with his new team...unless he comes to Glendale of course.

for those of you spouting all of the nonsense about accuracy,....you folks must not remember watching guys like Favre and Elway when they were young players....both had great cannons, but their guidance systems were not the best early on. I am not claiming LT is in that class of player mind you,...just noting that guys can indeed get past accuracy issues and have great careers in the NFL.

Not sure why we kept WR Golden,...he lacks concentration and is suspect in his route trees....maybe his sister is hot?? I dunno.........

really unsure about what the plan is with Barkley

Good post Oaken1. Completely agree.

 

[moklerman]

Don't know what you need, but 21 wins over 2 seasons has earned a lot of cred with me.

Do you think Pats fans knash their teeth over the host of butchered picks by the Foxboro genius?

Hasn't prevented him from fielding competitive teams.

I guess you're asking rhetorically since it seems you didn't actually read my post.

 

[b8rtm8nn]

Regarding LT, I can only suspect that they were hoping he would be able to take over for backup next year so we could let go of Stanton. He shows up to training camp and is still very far behind - not athletically, but mentally, and ends up in a competition with an UDFA rookie, who likely would have won (Sims did start game 4, which i believe means something).

So regardless of accuracy and athleticism, I think they realized that LT was not likely going to improve enough to become backup next year. Maybe they were going to risk the PS with him and still pursue other options, maybe Sims was slated for the PS but Barkley made more sense to gamble (Sims couldn't stay eligible in college, who knows his study habits in the QB room).

I don't think LT had the 'real' playbook for game 4, it looked like a college gameplan given to him to cover his limitations. I would assume they wanted him to look good and hopefully get a draft pick out of a late trade before cuts.

In other words, I think they had realized that LT wasn't going to be the type of QB that can run Arian's offense, regardless of physical tools - and they likely knew this long before final cuts.

 

[Brak]

Interesting Elway trivia: he never won a bowl game at Stanford. Not a one. Not even one of those silly Bluebonnet Bowl kind of games. Granted, there weren't nearly as many lowbrow bowl games back in his day, but still.. his teams just we not very successful, despite his enormous talents. The ultimate "potential" guy coming into the league.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Brett Favre only completed less than 57% once in his entire NFL career. Logan Thomas completed over 57% once in his entire college career.

 

[WildBB]

Your not the only one mitch. I was high on LT this year and was happy to see how well he improve this year in PS. I have a feeling LT will be a starting qb in a year or two and all of us will regret that the cards waived him in 2015.

Or not. Not with the Dolphins he won't be. Best scenario is probably a competent b/u.

 

[Buckybird]

Brett Favre only completed less than 57% once in his entire NFL career. Logan Thomas completed over 57% once in his entire college career.

Amen

The Cards aren't going to miss out on any potential wins now or the future because they got rid of Thomas. He is what he is, move on & get better.

 

[Chris_Sanders]

I can't believe there is all of this hemming and hawing over someone who was so bad, that he couldn't unseat Ryan Lindley off the street.

Two weeks ago he was going to be cut for an undrafted free agent.

It was a terrible draft pick at the time, a HUGE reach because if you aren't accurate in college, you aren't accurate in the NFL. It just doesn't happen.