Lost - Season 4 (spoilers)

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Just some random thoughts I had pn the drive in this morning:

If time on the island is so much slower (20 minute helo ride on the outside is 36 hours on the inside), how is Kate going to explain a 2 year old kid when they've only been gone a fraction of that time)?

Also, If Penny started looking for Des when he disappeared, it either wouldn't have been 4 years to her or Des (less for her or more for Des).

FWIW, Lostpedia brought up the point that it is 12/24 off the island and 12/26 on the island.
 

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I thought about contributing to Lostpedia but I discovered I didn't have enough time in my day to make any real contributions that Lost ultra-geeks do. You pretty much have to be like the guy pictured below:

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I thought about contributing to Lostpedia but I discovered I didn't have enough time in my day to make any real contributions that Lost ultra-geeks do. You pretty much have to be like the guy pictured below:

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But Lostpedia is awesome, right? :)
 

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FWIW, Lostpedia brought up the point that it is 12/24 off the island and 12/26 on the island.
That's not enough of a difference, is it? 20 minutes off-island for appx 36 hours on island?
 

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That's not enough of a difference, is it? 20 minutes off-island for appx 36 hours on island?

You apparently haven't read the invisible matter/alternate universe/invisible moon theory. It would depend on where the invisible moon made of invisible matter strikes the surface of the earth in its faux revolution around the Earth.
 

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You apparently haven't read the invisible matter/alternate universe/invisible moon theory. It would depend on where the invisible moon made of invisible matter strikes the surface of the earth in its faux revolution around the Earth.

Aww, Gaddabout, you DID read it after all. :cheers:

So, what's your take on the mirror matter theory?
 

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So, what's your take on the mirror matter theory?

I think they tried to explain too much with one theory when the writers have already stated they are pulling from hundreds of sources. I refuse to believe Lindeloff/Cuse have based the Lost reality on such hard science, or at least entirely on one theory. They're fiction writers ... a good story demands a write around hard science. That's my one and only criticism because the rest is fascinating, baffling, disturbing, and otherwise a great contribution to the Lost discussion.

I had a dozen freak-out moments while reading the first 100 pages of Michael Crichton's Timeline. The science he discusses is probably grade-school quantum physics for smart people, but it turned my tiny little brain to mush. Not to mention it challenged many of my own poorly held theories on how the universe works. I had the same sort of encounter with the mirror matter page.
 

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The pop physics book I'm reading has a few pages about a guy named Minkowski. Einstein was a student of his, and his focus was time-space.


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Hell of an episode.

Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure I already know who's on the boat.
 

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Yet another episode that is a reminder of how unbelievably evil Ben is. What a great villain

Now we also found out that Ben's enemy off the island is Penny's dad. So what does he want on the island? Is he doing this all for his daughter or for some other reason? Whose side is he on?

Its rather obvious who Ben's guy is but it will still be good to see him back and we get the final of the Oceanic 6 revealed. Can't wait
 

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Thought the episode was a little flat, but they needed to set up the race to the finish. I miss Hurley and Sawyer. That little tease at the end made me miss them more. I think we need an episode to remind us why we love all these characters, to remind us why we started rooting for them. I think it's an important element that's getting lost in the rush to deliver mythology.
 

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You gotta assume that **** approached Widmore and told him how to get to the island. Widmore then staged the underwater plane and **** took the people on the boat to the island. **** probably did all that on Ben's orders. Makes sense.

Oh, and the actor that plays **** was actually in tonight's opening credits.
 

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You gotta assume that **** approached Widmore and told him how to get to the island. Widmore then staged the underwater plane and **** took the people on the boat to the island. **** probably did all that on Ben's orders. Makes sense.

Oh, and the actor that plays **** was actually in tonight's opening credits.

****!
 

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The show is finally answering some questions. Ben is truly evil, and I think one of the best characters on the show. Juliette is boi-oi-oing. Ben is totally obsessed. Him walking freely at the end and the look on Hurley and Sawyer's faces was killer. Yeah, it's pretty obvious who is coming back next week.
 

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Who's the better bad guy? Ben or Smoking Man?

Smoking Man column:
- Face like a catcher's mitt
- Made sure the Bills never won the Super Bowl
- Wrote short fiction based on his real life under a pseudonym and was told it was ludicrous; would have stopped running the world if he could only get his book published, which was really, really sad.
- Was involved in every key assisination of the 20th Century
- Was involved in every key cover-up -- except the botched Watergate -- of the 20th Century
- Always gets other people to do his dirty work

Ben's column:
- Apparently is the keeper of all the island's secret
- Best liar ever
- Voracious reader
- Can take a beating like a man
- Always has a plan
- Smiles with all the warmth of a New England winter
- Maintains a fresh spiky hair cut on an island with no known barber
- Always gets other people to do his dirty work

Like Homer said, Weaseling out of things is what separates us from the animal world. Except the weasel. And Ben is more weasel than wolverine. Smoking Man was a wolverine and you always could trust he was working for his own benefit and no one else's. Ben is more sly, and while he never had Smoking Man's power, he's much better at large group dynamics and Machiavellian control.
 
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The show is finally answering some questions. Ben is truly evil, and I think one of the best characters on the show. Juliette is boi-oi-oing. Ben is totally obsessed. Him walking freely at the end and the look on Hurley and Sawyer's faces was killer. Yeah, it's pretty obvious who is coming back next week.

Tatu???


:D
 

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Was there any indication that Ben had a thing for Juliette prior to this episode? It almost feels a little bit contrived at this point. I never thought before it was that serious.

You gotta assume that **** approached Widmore and told him how to get to the island. Widmore then staged the underwater plane and **** took the people on the boat to the island. **** probably did all that on Ben's orders. Makes sense.
But why would Ben ask **** to bring the boat to the island? What does he have to gain from other people locating the island?
 
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