Now its about #16, 31, and 59

[pokerface]

We would be a defensive mess, but boy would that team be fun to watch.

For sheer entertainment sign me up. We probably blowout a lot of teams but get blown out too.

 

[AzStevenCal]

We would be a defensive mess, but boy would that team be fun to watch.

Especially if Koko and Kompany can turn Ayton into a rim protector.

 

[ColdPickleNachos]

Kemba will be on the last year of his contract next season with the Hornets. They will want something significant in return.

Also it's risky trading for him as he may not re-sign with the Suns. If so, the Suns better be prepared to show him the money when he turns 30.

https://hoopshype.com/player/kemba-walker/salary/

I guess I would prefer the Suns draft a PG and find a temporary starter. The Suns will have Ayton, Booker and Jackson so I'm not feeling the need to rush it anymore.

Trust me. I've done the research. He's been in the news the past couple days:

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article211743034.html

Current asking price is a young player with potential and a lottery pick. Suns could put a reasonable package together, and it's shown they know any team who trades for him will need communication with his agent.

Temporary starters at point guard are like temporary starters at quarterback...they're not good for the development of young players at the skill positions.

 

[Raze]

Don't forget Elie Okobo. Another PG I like, even before he scored 44 the other day.

With Book being our future, I think it's wise to land someone at PG that excels at D. That's why I'd shy away from a guy like Okobo. The guy "might" be good one day at D, but the film right now shows a guy who doesn't put much effort on D. He's often lagging on plays and is absolutely infuriating with his poor footwork and body control. True, he has physical gifts which might amount to something. But I trust what I see until I don't see it anymore.

I actually feel the same way about Young. He's just too inconsistent on D to pair up with Book. Together they might score 50 a night, but give up 60.

Same with Doncic.

We absolutely need someone who can help us on both ends of the floor.

Starters:

Knight and Brook

Bench:

Carter and Reed (Both can run the point and play D)

 

[pokerface]

I like Shai but I'm not sure he'll ever be more than a great 2nd guard.

He has good percentages and will be good defensively. Shai, Jackson, and Ayton have the possibility of being good defenders.

 

[AzStevenCal]

For sheer entertainment sign me up. We probably blowout a lot of teams but get blown out too.

I'm of the opinion that it's a lot easier to find what you're looking for when you know exactly what you're lacking. With Booker and Young, we'd have very clear understanding of our shortcoming, namely interior defense. Right now, we have so many needs it's a challenge to just pick one or two.

 

[AzStevenCal]

He has good percentages and will be good defensively. Shai, Jackson, and Ayton have the possibility of being good defenders.

I think his ceiling is somewhere around Malcolm Brogdon and at 16, that's good value. But like Brogdon, I think most teams will end up realizing he's valuable, just not quite the long term answer as a starting point guard.

 

[pokerface]

I think his ceiling is somewhere around Malcolm Brogdon and at 16, that's good value. But like Brogdon, I think most teams will end up realizing he's valuable, just not quite the long term answer as a starting point guard.

I'd still be thrilled if we got Shai. I think he'd blend better with Booker and Ayton...versus having Young.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

I think his ceiling is somewhere around Malcolm Brogdon and at 16, that's good value. But like Brogdon, I think most teams will end up realizing he's valuable, just not quite the long term answer as a starting point guard.

I think Brogdan is way too low of a ceiling for him. He was arguable as good or better as a freshman than Brogdan was as a senior and is already a better facilitator. I don't know that he will ever be a true star, but I could see him developing into a borderline all star type of player in the NBA.

 

[Mainstreet]

Trust me. I've done the research. He's been in the news the past couple days:

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/sports/nba/charlotte-hornets/article211743034.html

Current asking price is a young player with potential and a lottery pick. Suns could put a reasonable package together, and it's shown they know any team who trades for him will need communication with his agent.

Temporary starters at point guard are like temporary starters at quarterback...they're not good for the development of young players at the skill positions.

I understand you like Walker and I would too if the asking price, age, future salary and rights were not a concern.

Maybe the Suns view it differently.

If Payton is in tune with the Suns, I wouldn't mind keeping him until the Suns find the long term answer. Maybe they draft the long term solution at PG.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I'd still be thrilled if we got Shai. I think he'd blend better with Booker and Ayton...versus having Young.

I wouldn't hate it but no way would I offer the same package to get Shai that I would for Trae. I'd offer the 16 and 31 or maybe the Milwaukee pick but that's about it. I think a team can get by with him as their starting point guard but I'd prefer we had a real force at that position. The current rules greatly favor a dominant scoring point guard.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I don’t care about the timeline anymore. We got the #1 pick and a star in Booker. I’m done messing with the development of those guys with trash PG’s. Yes those vets aren’t great but they’ll be good for the young guys and be off the books by the time other guys are up for deals (with the exception of Conley I suppose). I also don’t like the FA class the next two summers anyway.

If we are going to blow assets on an older guy who is expensive I’d rather it be kemba

 

[Raze]

He has good percentages and will be good defensively. Shai, Jackson, and Ayton have the possibility of being good defenders.

Defensively speaking he has great length and smarts, but is lacking in bulk and quickness. Early on, he'll get eaten alive by twitchy-quick guards (which the league is laden with). And he'll get exposed against physically dominant Gs (basically the other half of the NBA).

If he bulks up, he'll cut his deficiencies in half, but he'll always struggle against speed (on both ends). That doesn't mean he can't be successful, it's just going to take a lot of work.

I don't hate Shai, I just would rather take a guy like Brunson at 31 who can help NOW rather than another prospect at 16 we have to wait and hope develops.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

I wouldn't hate it but no way would I offer the same package to get Shai that I would for Trae. I'd offer the 16 and 31 or maybe the Milwaukee pick but that's about it. I think a team can get by with him as their starting point guard but I'd prefer we had a real force at that position. The current rules greatly favor a dominant scoring point guard.

I think you would have to trade up significantly higher to get Young than for Shai. My guess would be that you would have to trade somewhere between 6-8 for Trae and between 10-12 for Shai. May not sound like a huge gap, but the cost would be far greater for Trae IMO.

 

[Mainstreet]

If we are going to blow assets on an older guy who is expensive I’d rather it be kemba

If we are going to blow assets let's do it for Trae Young or some other top rated player in the draft.

 

[pokerface]

I wouldn't hate it but no way would I offer the same package to get Shai that I would for Trae. I'd offer the 16 and 31 or maybe the Milwaukee pick but that's about it. I think a team can get by with him as their starting point guard but I'd prefer we had a real force at that position. The current rules greatly favor a dominant scoring point guard.

Yeah but we already have a dominant shooing guard. That plus potentially having Ayton with his offensive firepower. Don't see a real need for Youngs offense. Then on defense he'd be a liability.

Shai has been shooting good percentages . His three point shooting would be killer. His defense could cover point guards and shooting guards.

 

[Mainstreet]

We need to keep this thread going. The forum is being taken over.

 

[Cheesebeef]

WTF is going on? Did Trump sell the country to China to get a Tower in Beijing?!

 

[pokerface]

We need to keep this thread going. The forum is being taken over.

My thought exactly

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Yeah but we already have a dominant shooing guard. That plus potentially having Ayton with his offensive firepower. Don't see a real need for Youngs offense. Then on defense he'd be a liability.

Shai has been shooting good percentages . His three point shooting would be killer. His defense could cover point guards and shooting guards.

I think Trae will end up a solid defender of opposing PGs, but obviously would be a liability when switch onto bigger players. According to him he is in the gym working hard at improving his defense and has already added 10 lbs of muscle since the end of the college season.

 

[Mainstreet]

My thought exactly

Run, Pokerface, run.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Shaggy we need you!! lol

 

[pokerface]

Run, Pokerface, run.

Hahaha. I'm too high on Ayton to even care right now.

 

[Mainstreet]

WTF is going on? Did Trump sell the country to China to get a Tower in Beijing?!

I never knew it would end this way.

 

[pokerface]

I think Trae will end up a solid defender of opposing PGs, but obviously would be a liability when switch onto bigger players. According to him he is in the gym working hard at improving his defense and has already added 10 lbs of muscle since the end of the college season.

Shai is 6'6 and has tremendous wingspan. Young is shorter and has very short arms. What is the point of Young with Booker/Ayton on board ?