OT Rotoworld Reporting Lakers Acquire Gasol

[dodie53]

the Lakers are going to out rebound us for sure!

 

[devilalum]

the Lakers are going to out rebound us for sure!

Everybody out rebounds us for sure.

 

[Bufalay]

That's not what you were saying. You were saying that KT was the difference in us being a championship team and not being a championship team.



I don't think you are particularly one of the people here that believes Sarver is to blame for this trade, but there are plenty that do. The Lakers traded for Gasol?? SCREW SARVER!!!

You are saying lots of stupid stuff.

 

[dodie53]

is Gasol playing right now against the Raptors?

 

[mojorizen7]

The difference between KT and Skinner is negligible, and certainly not the linchpin on winning a championship.

I think the suns were a better team last year with K.T./J.Jones than this years Hill/Skinner version. Ask all the PF's & Centers that are padding their stats on our smallish & soft front line this year. Obviously having a K.T./Hill combo would be the ideal scenario but that didn't happen & is moot.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Legit NBA star?

When the hell has he ever proven that? I think he made the all-star game once.. He can't even stay healthy

He probably would've made five AS games if he played in the East. Any player who is 27 and has already won a ROY, and gone to an AS game as a PF in this conference, and led his country to a gold medal is a star. Sorry every scout and personnel guy in the NBA disagrees with you, Gasol is universally regarded as one of thirty best players in the NBA. And the health label you put on him is laughable considering half your title says Amare. Switching one of the worst players in the NBA in Kwame Brown for a career 18/8 7 footer won't make that much a of a difference. What world do you live in?

 

[mojorizen7]

At this point if we can't land mike miller we HAVE to roll the dice on artest IMO.

Now we're talking......& SAC TOWN will listen.

 

[mojorizen7]

This is just another reminder why the Suns hurt themselves with such a small team.

You can have all the talent of the Suns. But When you have talented Bigs "That" is what makes the most impact.

Spot on.

 

[Nash2Amare]

He probably would've made five AS games if he played in the East. Any player who is 27 and has already won a ROY, and gone to an AS game as a PF in this conference, and led his country to a gold medal is a star. Sorry every scout and personnel guy in the NBA disagrees with you, Gasol is universally regarded as one of thirty best players in the NBA. And the health label you put on him is laughable considering half your title says Amare. Switching one of the worst players in the NBA in Kwame Brown for a career 18/8 7 footer won't make that much a of a difference. What world do you live in?

Amare is >>> Gasol

so why does it matter?

8 rpg is the best he can do in 36 mins?
Lets not get carried away on his rebounding..he is on one of the worst rebounding teams in the league (mem)

 

[ebow]

Amare is >>> Gasol

so why does it matter?

8 rpg is the best he can do in 36 mins?
Lets not get carried away on his rebounding..he is on one of the worst rebounding teams in the league (mem)

As much as I love Amare; the lakers have Gasol, Bynum and Odom. This is going to be a tough task at hand. Hopefully this deal will be a blessing in disguise, and that it lights a fire up Kerr's a**. The lakers have a pretty darn good bench too.

 

[mojorizen7]

this team seemed to peak the year Sarver took over and has been slipping little by little each year since.

Agree. Looking at reg season W-L is an easy out. The team has gotten smaller,softer,thinner,a little older, & unrelentingly predictable.

the franchise PF that absolutely destroyed the Spurs in the playoffs 3 years ago is a shell of his former self

Disagree. If we're talking about vertical leap & explosiveness...yeah sure he's lost some of that but not much.His mid to deep shot has become a weapon, i like the way he can finish around the rim when the dunk isn't there,he has become a smarter shot-blocker, and i think an all-around better player.
Just sayin.

 

[jandaman]

Stoudemire IS NOT >>> Gasol

Its one thing to be a fan of the team... its another to be just blind.

Gasol has been more than servicable and has proven he can be a 20/10/5/2 player as he did for a most of the season before he got injured. On the Grizzlies, he obviously has fallen of the radar as the team is going through changes wit the young crew in Gay, Lowry, Conley etc.

Gasol has range, has passing skills, can block shots, has a back to the basket game... etc etc etc...



If Stoudemire ever becomes a better rebounder/defender... then he will leave the tier he is one at the moment... which is the same tier as Gasol.

 

[dodie53]

get Artest!
even if the suns just rent him for a year.
cmon.

do something!

 

[jandaman]

As much as I love Amare; the lakers have Gasol, Bynum and Odom. This is going to be a tough task at hand. Hopefully this deal will be a blessing in disguise, and that it lights a fire up Kerr's a**. The lakers have a pretty darn good bench too.

exactly.

some people are ignoring that this is Phil Jackson and this is a team with decent players.... and a BIG frontline. With Gasol's scoring and more than enough rebounding ability... combined with Odom's and Bynum's good rebounding ability. That front court will pretty much beat the Suns by themselves.... and OH.... forgetting no.24....

 

[jandaman]

Im down with Artest, he can play SG/SF/PF. He can neutralize Odom's size advantage and give you that perimeter threat who can score inside.

But you need another. Maybe Ron Artest and Mikki Moore.

 

[devilalum]

Disagree. If we're talking about vertical leap & explosiveness...yeah sure he's lost some of that but not much.His mid to deep shot has become a weapon, i like the way he can finish around the rim when the dunk isn't there,he has become a smarter shot-blocker, and i think an all-around better player.
Just sayin.

I would agree that Amare's game has matured in certain areas but he OWNED Duncan in that playoff series now he is average at best against Duncan, he's not a good defender and his rebounding numbers are inflated due to playing for the worst rebounding team in the league.

EJ was saying the other night that if Amare ever gets to play PF next to a legit center his game will jump to the next level. I bet this is true but it further demonstrates that Amare is not a dominate force.

When's the last time he took over a game? And don't give me that crap about nobody throwing him the ball.

 

[mojorizen7]

And don't give me that crap about nobody throwing him the ball.

His defense is weak. This TEAM'S defense is weak. He's playing out of position & needs a banger next to him like you said.
But he's not getting enough touches Devil. Not in crunch time especially. So he missed the potential game winning FT'S. I'll take STAT in that situation over the rest of the team (except Nashy) everytime.
I see where your comin from but he's still a feared man when he gets the ball. The constant double teams are proof of that.

 

[dodie53]

you want STAT to get more touches?

trade LB.

 

[mojorizen7]

Im down with Artest, he can play SG/SF/PF. He can neutralize Odom's size advantage and give you that perimeter threat who can score inside.

But you need another. Maybe Ron Artest and Mikki Moore.

Thats solid. Talent and toughness.
The kool-aid drinking naysayers will not tolerate that proposal though. Artest is too "high risk" & Moore can't score so he has no business being on this team either

 

[mojorizen7]

Maybe the NBA will change the rules and make offensive rebounding illegal.

 

[tobiazz]

That's not what you were saying. You were saying that KT was the difference in us being a championship team and not being a championship team.

To be fair, I wrote, "If the Suns didn't give up on a championship and trade KT . . ."

Rather than battle over the semantics of that statement I will rephrase it to improve its clarity. I think that the trade of KT is a symptom of the Suns "giving up on a championship" rather than a cause. In other words, I do not think the Suns necessarily had a better chance of winning it all before the trade.

I do not think that the loss of KT in and of itself is that awful, though the Suns' rebounding and defense may indicate otherwise. However, I do think if Sarver were not concerned as much with profit margin, they could have clearly turned KT and the picks (not just those two picks) into something more relevant to their title aspirations. Perhaps the Suns have discussed trade proposals that would actually increase payroll but we can do no more than speculate on such scenarios.

Hopefully that is clear. That's enough regarding this issue from me.

 

[Folster]

Didn't the Suns trade an expiring contract and 2 picks for $$$$? The Lakers just turned that same **** into an all star? **** Sarver.

Quote of the Month.

 

[ebow]

If only we could do something similar to what the Tampa Bay Buccaneers did to get coach a new coach. If we could do a trade, and get a coach like Phil Jackson, Greg Pop or Larry Brown.

 

[D-Dogg]

I hate you

 

[Darth Llama]

I have to laugh at all the conspiracy theorists who are going on about how Stern had something to do with it. Do you people also travel to "Area 51" every year looking for the mother ship to come reclaim the aliens we are holding there? You guys are unreal.

Did the Grizz get better offers before, yes they did, but they weren't looking to move Gasol at that time. Now here we are almost midway into the season and Memphis has won 13 games total. They knew it was time to rebuild, and the Lakers beat everyone to the punch, period. It's a good deal for the Grizz, they will have a rough year this year, but they have young talent and lots of pics, they are doing a great job at rebuilding.

As a Laker fan, I'm going to say that you shouldn't assume that this move makes the Lakers the favorite. The Lakers were a very good team with Bynum, and adding Gasol really boosts the Lakers. However, there is talk now that Bynum is not healing well and might not make it back this year. If that's true, then I would say that the Suns still have a slight advantage, since I don't like the idea of trying to Guard Amare with Gasol. Amare will have Gasol in foul trouble and the game will go downhill for LA from there. To have a real shot at the title, the Lakers need Gasol and Bynum both.

There are a lot of teams in the west that are stacked with talent. All the Lakers did was become one of them. As a Laker fan, I'm cautiously optimistic, but trying to say that the Lakers are a lock is just foolish in my opinion. It's almost as silly as those that think the Spurs are going to be a lottery pick team.

It's going to be a competitive year, but the Suns are far from out of it.

{Edit} Nevermind the part about Bynum. That report does not seem to be credible according to Bynum.