Rumor: Phx is considering offering Gordon max deal (4 years, $58 million)

[slinslin]

We can only hope that Gordon accepting means we are out of the race for Dragic.

Paying 25M$ per year to a backcourt of 2 below allstar caliber players is just a stupid way to build a team. Even worse considering one guy is chronically injured and undersized and the other erratic and wants to be paid based on only the last 2 months of his 3-year career.

We would be better off taking the rest of our money elsewhere and not block Marshall's future with Dragic.

 

[Mainstreet]

If we amnesty Childress and sign and trade Gortat and Frye for Gordon we should still have around 30M$ caproom to go for Beasley, Mayo, Dragic, Hill, Randolph, Brook Lopez etc while resigning Robin.

If you must insist on trading Gortat, it should be a separate trade where the Suns can get more value.

 

[PDXChris]

The Hornets will likely meet with Eric Gordon and see where he's at before deciding to match or explore a sign-and-trade.

https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA/status/220349485535072256

The plot thickens.

 

[mojorizen7]

https://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA/status/220349485535072256

The plot thickens.

Probably a routine exit physical.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8128612/2012-nba-free-agency-eric-gordon-phoenix-suns-agree-max-salary-deal

 

[Absolute Zero]

http://www.nola.com/hornets/index.ssf/2012/07/new_orleans_hornets_wont_be_de.html

Nothing that happened Tuesday night should, or will, dissuade the Hornets from locking up guard Eric Gordon, not even if he holds his breath and refuses to come out of his room if the Hornets don't grant him the freedom to join the Suns.
What, you were surprised that he had wonderful things to say about the Phoenix after signing a four-year, $58 million offer sheet late Tuesday? If so, you were being unrealistic in believing he wouldn't be complimentary - maybe even overly-complimentary - of the franchise that offered him the contract he wanted.
What matters now is that he's capable of being a professional once the Hornets match the offer sheet.

Now, if New Orleans general manager Dell Demps is convinced, by conversations with Gordon, that the shooting guard will be petulant and whiny and unwilling to give his best effort, then the Hornets will have a serious problem. If he can't give 100 percent and will spend his time in New Orleans mumbling under his breath, then this marriage can't work.

 

[elindholm]

If you must insist on trading Gortat, it should be a separate trade where the Suns can get more value.

That's for sure. Giving up Gortat for the privilege of overpaying Gordon makes no sense at all.

 

[Mainstreet]

I think a max is max money to start and max increases, so I don't think they can front or back load it.

In the Paul Coro article dated 7-3-12 at azcentral it suggests the Suns could front load Gordon's contract.

Gordon was considered one of the market's top free agents but could tie up a substantial portion of the Suns' salary-cap space, which was potentially $23 million, while waiting for New Orleans' July 14 response. The Hornets, with new owner Tom Benson, cleared more cap space last week by trading Emeka Okafor and Trevor Ariza in anticipation of the demand for Gordon. Gordon also visited Indiana and Houston but can only sign one offer sheet.

Heavily frontloading the contract's money could make the deal unattractive to match, as would giving Gordon a fourth-year player option that applies pressure on the team after the second year.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/sun...-suns-commitment-eric-gordon-offer-sheet.html

 

[mojorizen7]

If you must insist on trading Gortat, it should be a separate trade where the Suns can get more value.

That's for sure. Giving up Gortat for the privilege of overpaying Gordon makes no sense at all.

Good point Street,the Suns can't mortgage on anyone IMO(i'm ok with one high priced young FA like Gordon). Gortat is the only starting-quality frontcourt guy on the roster here and i would imagine that he will probably command quite a bit of value down the road if need be,depending on where the process is at.

 

[jagu]

I'm not very upset with Eric Gordon signing. Suns were going to suck for 4 years anyway but now we'll at least see a pretty good scorer playing the SG. Now the Suns need to bulk up inside and become a strong interior defensive team.

 

[JCSunsfan]

S&T?

wouldn't give up anything of value for Gordon. Like I said I think OJ Mayo is the better player when given the same chance as the #1 option on bad teams like Gordon was.

If we did a sign and trade I would want to dump Frye or Childress on them along with Gortat maybe.

Do you throw Gortat into every trade proposal just to annoy everyone on the board?

 

[slinslin]

Do you throw Gortat into every trade proposal just to annoy everyone on the board?

Who else you think New Orleans would take?

Gortat and Frye or Childress would be the best case scenario for us because it would rid us off one of our bad contracts and still give us caproom to work with.

Much better than giving up Marshall and draft picks in a sign and trade.

Gortat is so dependant on Nash, trade him before he gets exposed as the average center he is.

 

[Chaplin]

Who else you think New Orleans would take?

Gortat and Frye or Childress would be the best case scenario for us because it would rid us off one of our bad contracts and still give us caproom to work with.

Much better than giving up Marshall and draft picks in a sign and trade.

Gortat is so dependant on Nash, trade him before he gets exposed as the average center he is.

Great. So we can look forward to Robin Lopez being exposed as the below-average center HE is.

 

[slinslin]

Great. So we can look forward to Robin Lopez being exposed as the below-average center HE is.

He wouldn't be exposed.

Robin's value already is low compared to his talent. Gortat's value is way too high compared to his talent.

Sell high, buy low. basic rule

 

[Chaplin]

He wouldn't be exposed.

Robin's value already is low compared to his talent. Gortat's value is way too high compared to his talent.

Sell high, buy low. basic rule

Not true. Robin is terrible. For someone that depends exclusively on stats, you tend to ignore ones that don't support your view. Makes you less credible.

 

[HooverDam]

Well I think the deal the Suns offered Gordon is an overpay, but likely what they had to do I'm this situation. Let's hope NO doesn't match, but the idea of trading Gortat for Gordon is silly. Gordon only makes sense on the Suns if they have other good players, Gordon sans Gortat is dumb.

Hopefully Nash goes to NY in a S&T so they get something for him. Though if they also sign Dragic they'd have a bit of a log jam at the 1 with Dragic, Shumpert and Marshall. I wonder if Shumpert could play off the ball at all, he certainly has the size.

Dragic/Shumpert
Gordon/ S Brown
Dudley/Childress
Frye/Morris
Gortat/RoLo

That team has some fun pieces to watch, though depending on what else happens in the West is likely still lottery bound. I'm worried that it might stay stuck in mediocrity.

 

[TJ]

Not true. Robin is terrible. For someone that depends exclusively on stats, you tend to ignore ones that don't support your view. Makes you less credible.

Truth. Not sure why people think Lopez's value is any higher than a bag of sweaty jock straps.


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[95pro]

not sure why someone wants gortat gone and lopez in???

 

[95pro]

deal is done for us signing Gordon

 

[Absolute Zero]

deal is done for us signing Gordon

Unless you have some new info, I understand he signed an offer sheet. That means NO can match our offer and get him. Do you have a link for something new?

 

[Absolute Zero]

OK here we go:
http://www.azcentral.com/sports/sun...-of-new-orleans-hornets-for-phoenix-suns.html

 

[Bufalay]

Not true. Robin is terrible. For someone that depends exclusively on stats, you tend to ignore ones that don't support your view. Makes you less credible.

He didn't say Robin wasn't terrible. He said his value is low compared to his talent. He is terrible, but his value is very low.

 

[elindholm]

Lopez isn't terrible. Why doesn't someone compare him to every other #2 center in the league -- not PFs who play some backup center, but actual #2 centers -- and see how he fares.

 

[TJ]

Lopez isn't terrible. Why doesn't someone compare him to every other #2 center in the league -- not PFs who play some backup center, but actual #2 centers -- and see how he fares.

Understand your point, but if you listen to people like slinslin, it comes off as if Lopez is either an underutilized prodigy or an asset that is going to somehow pull off a blockbuster trade. He is neither.

I'm not sure what the market value for him is, but if it's more than a couple of million a season, he is expendable IMO.

 

[JCSunsfan]

NYK is our best option for s&t. Shumpert has great value and he's the one that our FO is demanding. Good on them.

 

[Phrazbit]

If we actually get him I will hope for the best. If our staff pulls off another miracle and keeps him healthy it wont be an awful signing, but he needs to find another gear for this to be a good signing.

We'd be better off having him languish in injuries and the team bottom out than for him to remain the psuedo star he is and us to spend the next 4 years winning 35 games. So, Gordon, hope you have a new level, and find it, you rich jerk. Unless New Orleans keeps you, in which case remain the injured stiff you are.