Saints at Cardinals PS gameday thread 8-10-24

[kerouac9]

Theo looks 12

I had to click through to get the details on him for the same reason. AZCentral really sparing no expense.

 

[Chopper0080]

Kinda curious if Payton Turner could be had for a sack of marbles. Saints declined his option, he has good athletic traits, and maybe a scheme change to a 3-4 could help. Obviously everything that can be had at this time of year comes with warts, but the Cardinals are also very thin.

 

[Chopper0080]

Same thing with Josh Sweat. He just restructured his deal but just to lighten the cap burden. I think he is a backup right now.

 

[juza76]

Same thing with Josh Sweat. He just restructured his deal but just to lighten the cap burden. I think he is a backup right now.

Josh sweat would be a great addition
Type of pass rusher this defense need

 

[kerouac9]

Same thing with Josh Sweat. He just restructured his deal but just to lighten the cap burden. I think he is a backup right now.

He’s not tradeable. As I read OtC, Philly needs to eat $22mm in accelerated bonus if they trade him.

Are we also sure he’s that good? Seems more like a sidekick.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

What game did you watch?

I thought the D played Well in the first Half when it was the 2nd team D against the 1st string Saints Offense/O-line

Of these saints had decided to run more we would’ve been crushed. I understood it wAs mismatching starters verses backups. But I saw what I saw.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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Yeah that throw summed up my thoughts on ridder. No competent nfl qb misses that wide open touchdown.

 

[THESMEL]

Welcome back Smelly!!

Boy, we gonna run some ball this year!! We got three backs that would get snaps with any team in the league...reason to be excited

Thanks , I’m still stuck in the philipines waiting on my family’s US immigration, that is 2 years overdue now. Did produce a new fan, my boy is named Pacific Herald - he’s a big 1!

He is a mudder, bull dozes head first, too bad NFL don’t have mud no more. Hehe

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Thanks , I’m still stuck in the philipines waiting on my family’s US immigration, that is 2 years overdue now. Did produce a new fan, my boy is named Pacific Herald - he’s a big 1!

He is a mudder, bull dozes head first, too bad NFL don’t have mud no more. Hehe

LIL SMEL!! Welcome!

 

[Chopper0080]

He’s not tradeable. As I read OtC, Philly needs to eat $22mm in accelerated bonus if they trade him.

Are we also sure he’s that good? Seems more like a sidekick.

It looks like he is 16 mil next year regardless and they are currently 25 mil under this year. (per OTC) Maybe I am not reading it correctly, but I feel what you are referencing was for a trade prior to June 1.

Do I feel he is great? I don't know. Do I feel he is significantly better than anything we have on our roster and are likely to pursue in upcoming FA? Yes.

So, if the draft picks are not significant, and it only really costs some money over the next couple years, I am all for it.

 

[Chopper0080]

Josh sweat would be a great addition
Type of pass rusher this defense need

lol...A league average or better one?

 

[kerouac9]

It looks like he is 16 mil next year regardless and they are currently 25 mil under this year. (per OTC) Maybe I am not reading it correctly, but I feel what you are referencing was for a trade prior to June 1.

Do I feel he is great? I don't know. Do I feel he is significantly better than anything we have on our roster and are likely to pursue in upcoming FA? Yes.

So, if the draft picks are not significant, and it only really costs some money over the next couple years, I am all for it.

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When you trade him, all those dollars in the "prorated signing bonus" category roll up to this year. Philly does have $25MM in cap space.

I think that spending picks + dollars on a guy like Sweat is what edges into Keim territory. He's not likely to outperform the $18MM AAV contract you're going to have to pay him. You're maybe okay with that if you're not giving up a third-round pick or something.

 

[juza76]

lol...A league average or better one?

Not a sack master but he has lenght and speed from the edge something the cardinals deeply miss
The few times i watched him i liked him
I remember a match vs the cardinals, Murray Is pretty quick and fast in short area, he couldnt outrun Sweat

 

[Chopper0080]

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When you trade him, all those dollars in the "prorated signing bonus" category roll up to this year. Philly does have $25MM in cap space.

I think that spending picks + dollars on a guy like Sweat is what edges into Keim territory. He's not likely to outperform the $18MM AAV contract you're going to have to pay him. You're maybe okay with that if you're not giving up a third-round pick or something.

This is what I would be targeting and where it would make sense IMO. If you are offering a conditional 4th or 5th, I think it is a fine move. If you have to give up a 2nd and pay him, that is where it becomes an issue IMO. I don't think he is at a Chandler Jones level.

 

[kerouac9]

This is what I would be targeting and where it would make sense IMO. If you are offering a conditional 4th or 5th, I think it is a fine move. If you have to give up a 2nd and pay him, that is where it becomes an issue IMO. I don't think he is at a Chandler Jones level.

Where do you think Josh Sweat gets the 2024 Arizona Cardinals? Do you consider him the same quality as Danielle Hunter?

I get casting around for a BJ Ojulari replacement/finding another 6-8 sacks, but the price of the new salary + draft pick compensation outside of a 4th or 5th is too much for me.

Because it's the Eagles, I'm not sure why they'd be willing to part with Sweat. The coach is trying to save his job and they're probably in a super bowl window right now.

 

[oaken1]

Thanks , I’m still stuck in the philipines waiting on my family’s US immigration, that is 2 years overdue now. Did produce a new fan, my boy is named Pacific Herald - he’s a big 1!

He is a mudder, bull dozes head first, too bad NFL don’t have mud no more. Hehe

Holy crap Smel, a SON!!!??

CONGRATS dude!!

 

[Chopper0080]

Where do you think Josh Sweat gets the 2024 Arizona Cardinals? Do you consider him the same quality as Danielle Hunter?

I get casting around for a BJ Ojulari replacement/finding another 6-8 sacks, but the price of the new salary + draft pick compensation outside of a 4th or 5th is too much for me.

Because it's the Eagles, I'm not sure why they'd be willing to part with Sweat. The coach is trying to save his job and they're probably in a super bowl window right now.

I don't believe he is as good as Hunter.

I would give up a 5th or 6th and three years 17 mil/per for him. (I am not very concerned about contract dollars outside of length)

Eagles brought in Fangio who is particular about who he likes, Sweat is currently in a position battle, and they are still cap crunched in 2025. Not that they can't get around that crunch but they might prefer to off-load him if they feel a younger guy is better with Fangio.

 

[Garthshort]

It might just be me, but I thought that our tackling was VG. Especially for a first PS game.

 

[CardNots]

It might just be me, but I thought that our tackling was VG. Especially for a first PS game.

A notable difference from years past.

in addition to hard hitting…