Agreed. The pupu platter of players for a star almost always end up with the team acquiring the pupu ending up with poopoo.
These deals work best when its an aging star for a basket of young talent. I cannot see how it would work when you are sending out a 22 year old star. Sometimes you just have to do it, like when Memphis traded Pau or when Indy traded PG, and you make the best of it you can. But it is also something you usually do when you are STARTING a rebuild, not when you are this far into it.
That wasn't an overreaction I' been open to trading him for the last two years. I've never thought of him as a number one player for a winning team, he's a clay Thompson type player at best. SG s are not exactly a hard position to find in the NBA, unless they are a top 3 guard I don't think it's the position you have to build around , PG and C are the ones you build around, if the suns had drafted better over the last few years I wouldn't be saying trade him but not listening to trades is stupid , if you want to not do anything big to acquire possible stars or draft picks then this team with never turn it around because they aren't going to sign anyone without more good players
Interestingly enough I see when 1Sun posts and have the option to reveal what he posted. But whomever else I’ve ignored posts I see literally nothing. So many times I see y’all having a conversation with thin air. Their post box doesn’t even show up in the thread for me. I wonder if that means they’re ignoring me too.
Dude we’ve had 12 first round picks the last 6 years and have multiple first round picks still in our future and you want to jettison proven talent for more draft picks?
Well I said players or draft picks , preferably both, It depends on the draft pick, like I said previously if Booker got us the first pick for Zion then yes, if it's going to get us a pick somewhere past 5 then no, I don't have confidence in them evaluating talent so if it's not high then it's basically useless for them , that's why I view the Milwaukee pick as basically nothing , you can use Booker to get a better player , the past two years phoenix could have possibly gotten Lillard if they included Booker for instance
So you choose one of the biggest busts in Phoenix history bender and JJ who jury is still out on, I said after 5 so Chriss goes with Booker in that argument, my point is statistically the farther you go from the 1st pick the worse chance you get at a star, not a good player but a star, phoenix doesn't draft good under sarver that's well proven, other teams find good players late but not phoenix let's not act like he finds Booker's every draft, it's normally a Chriss or no one since he used to just sell his picks
I don't think you're understanding my point at all, first off I already said I want good players in a trade I only said draft picks if it gets someone like zion, sarver screws up most picks but it's harder to screw up the higher you draft, statistically , doesn't mean it's not a gamble especially with him, his value is high because of people like you and many others who see him as a budding star, I don't view him as a star, he's maybe a top 10 SG after what 4 years now, I'll through out this scenario for you, let's say phoenix gets the 2nd pick in the draft, they do a trade with Booker and get the 1st pick as well , would you rather have Booker or go with some additional player or something and Zion and Barret?
