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[sunsfan88]

The Morris twins were showing Dragic some love

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[KloD]

Here's the scary thing...they will be one of the West's highest paid backcourts after Knight gets his extension this summer.

And you know that no matter what, Knight will get resigned by the Suns since they gave up so much to get him in the first place.

Where do you get this ****? You made this claim in another thread and it was 100% false. No offense, but you need to check your facts and not just repeat BS you read on message boards. There are several west teams that will have higher paid backcourts in the West. I already gave like 6 teams in the other thread. Lakers will have a higher paid backcourt for starters with Kobe making $25+.

 

[sunsfan88]

Where do you get this ****? You made this claim in another thread and it was 100% false. No offense, but you need to check your facts and not just repeat BS you read on message boards. There are several west teams that will have higher paid backcourts in the West. I already gave like 6 teams in the other thread. Lakers will have a higher paid backcourt for starters with Kobe making $25+.

Kobe will come off the books in a year. If Knight gets the max that many Bucks fans and Bucks thought he was going to offered this summer, then yea it will make us one of the highest paid backcourts.

 

[mojorizen7]

Where do you get this ****? You made this claim in another thread and it was 100% false. No offense, but you need to check your facts and not just repeat BS you read on message boards. There are several west teams that will have higher paid backcourts in the West. I already gave like 6 teams in the other thread. Lakers will have a higher paid backcourt for starters with Kobe making $25+.

You need to calm down. Are you really getting your panties in a twist because you don't like what you read in here? Calling out BC with zero respect a week or so ago...now crap like this? Grow up.

I disagree with 70% of the stuff i read in here. Lol. No need to get all frazzled and start calling people out. Good grief.

 

[82CardsGrad]

13 turnovers in the first half... Wow.
Hornacek really called out this team after the game. Called them soft and that when the other team amped up the physicality, the Suns looked like a high school team!
Wow... This is pretty damn bad... Not sure if Hornacek really hates this team but is soon whatever he can to motivate them to play better, or, if he just wants out of this situation...

 

[Iceman]

https://twitter.com/AZSports/status/572801175528976388

 

[Mainstreet]

I am watching the video replay of the Len/Whiteside tussle and Len is getting all the blame saying Len through Whiteside down. Actually Whiteside did not go down. It seems a lot of the media outlets are making Len out to be the bad guy when Whiteside instigated the incident. I think the referees went into this game looking for trouble from the Suns and they got a self fulfilling prophecy.

 

[82CardsGrad]

I am watching the video replay of the Len/Whiteside tussle and Len is getting all the blame saying Len through Whiteside down. Actually Whiteside did not go down. It seems a lot of the media outlets are making Len out to be the bad guy when Whiteside instigated the incident. I think the referees went into this game looking for trouble from the Suns and they got a self fulfilling prophecy.

They got what they were looking for with Markief's selfish and idiotic take down of Dragic...

 

[95pro]

Whiteside has been built up by the NBA and the media as a success story. His true colors came out last night and they're trying to overshadow his faults now.

 

[leclerc]

Whiteside don't seem too bright reading this:
http://www.foxsports.com/florida/st...-len-ejected-after-second-half-scuffle-030215

They need to move some pieces in the summer but I hope Horny gets to stay. Not sure how they will handle the back court though. It would be great if Bledsoe and Knight would gel and get some chemistry going. I was hoping Knight could play off the ball and be more of a slasher/shooter but so far it does not look like it. Bledsoe is just too uneven and his outside shot is not worth much.

At least we have Len to build around. Hopefully Goodwin and Warren gets some experience in the remaining weeks. I would bench Green and play Thornton as little as possible. So Len, Goodwin, Warren, Bledsoe and/or Knight. Keep Wright and Thornton. Try to get something for the rest of the guys.

What picks do we have this summer?

 

[95pro]

Len had some dunks on a few heat players including Whiteside. He didn't go landing on them and throwing forearm shots.

 

[FArting]

https://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/572899981268520960

https://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/572900226639527936

 

[FutureSuperstar]

I am shocked at the above fines. So, the NBA is basically saying you can charge at a guys mid-section and tackle him .... And you'll only be fined 15 K ???

What am I missing here? I feel like the 12th men on teams can just go in games, try to instigate stuff with stars, and then TACKLE them. What will happen is both guys will get ejected ... I'm confused. I'm not sure what Len was supposed to do when Whiteside's arm/elbow came crashing into his shoulder/head area. The natural reaction to that is what Len did ... There was nothing "natural" about Whiteside's tackle.

If teams are smart, they'll be using much more cheap shot tactics from their "3rd string centers" against opposing stars.

The NBA set a dangerous precedent ... The next Earl Barron dunk, he better be jumping into a star big on the other team - Which would then lead to that star big pushing Barron a bit ... Then I guess Barron can just tackle the "star big" down, both will get ejected, and Barron will get hit with a little 15 K fine (well worth taking the star player out of the game)

 

[Mainstreet]

I am shocked at the above fines. So, the NBA is basically saying you can charge at a guys mid-section and tackle him .... And you'll only be fined 15 K ???

What am I missing here? I feel like the 12th men on teams can just go in games, try to instigate stuff with stars, and then TACKLE them. What will happen is both guys will get ejected ... I'm confused. I'm not sure what Len was supposed to do when Whiteside's arm/elbow came crashing into his shoulder/head area. The natural reaction to that is what Len did ... There was nothing "natural" about Whiteside's tackle.

If teams are smart, they'll be using much more cheap shot tactics from their "3rd string centers" against opposing stars.

The NBA set a dangerous precedent ... The next Earl Barron dunk, he better be jumping into a star big on the other team - Which would then lead to that star big pushing Barron a bit ... Then I guess Barron can just tackle the "star big" down, both will get ejected, and Barron will get hit with a little 15 K fine (well worth taking the star player out of the game)

So Len is considered the perpetrator and fined the most of the bunch. How can one look at the video and reach this conclusion? This was not the first time in the game where Whiteside came down on Len's head and shoulders. I think NBA looks like hypocrites in how they treat different players.

 

[sunsfan88]

Len played well against one of the best Cs in the league in Whiteside. Even the ejection, after rewatching it, wasn't Len's fault imo.

 

[sunsfan88]

Dragic jumped off this sinking ship at the right time. Good chance he could have hurt his market value and $$ if he stayed on the Suns til summer even if IT got traded. For a player who played on an insanely bargain contract the last 3 years, I'm sure he wants to finally get that big pay day and can't blame him.

Seems like people in Miami love him already and he loves it there as well

https://twitter.com/flasportsbuzz/status/570317035391074304

 

[GatorAZ]

Dragic jumped off this sinking ship at the right time. Good chance he could have hurt his market value and $$ if he stayed on the Suns til summer even if IT got traded. For a player who played on an insanely bargain contract the last 3 years, I'm sure he wants to finally get that big pay day and can't blame him.

Seems like people in Miami love him already and he loves it there as well

https://twitter.com/flasportsbuzz/status/570317035391074304

Can't believe he's saying nice things about the team he wants 100M from!

/sarcasm

 

[marios13]

I just come here now to read Slinkys and KloDs comments

They have a team now that is basically what Goran had last year to work with with a much better Len and minus Frye plus Knight. Lets see how Bledsoe does the rest of the season.

I would love to see Suns in the playoffs, but I suspect the reality is they will place 9-11th place in the west at the end.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I just come here now to read Slinkys and KloDs comments

They have a team now that is basically what Goran had last year to work with with a much better Len and minus Frye plus Knight. Lets see how Bledsoe does the rest of the season.

I would love to see Suns in the playoffs, but I suspect the reality is they will place 9-11th place in the west at the end.

Had we not made any trades we would have finished 9th or 10th. Having traded Goran and Thomas, 10th or 11th is a given IMO.

Steve

 

[JS22]

Here's the scary thing...they will be one of the West's highest paid backcourts after Knight gets his extension this summer.

And you know that no matter what, Knight will get resigned by the Suns since they gave up so much to get him in the first place.

I still get the sense that Bledsoe is going to be dangled for a big in the offseason.

Edit: And so many people are freaking out about this roster. The Suns have, what, the 3rd youngest team in the league? Yet they're above .500 in the Western Conference. Put them in the East, against that competition, and they're a lock. You've got teams 5+ games under .500 competing for a spot in the East. That's horrible.

I'm not saying they don't have issues. They do. Primarily they're just not very likeable and Bledsoe is a terrible PG. Great talent. Exciting player. But a terrible PG. That's going to have to change, and I don't know if it can.

The Suns have a lot of young assets and "raw" talent. They just need a few veterans to help guide them. I don't think they're the trainwreck that most fans do, and I expect to see a busy offseason. McD is clearly not afraid to make moves. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Bledsoe and the Wonder Twins in different cities next season.

 

[Covert Rain]

I still get the sense that Bledsoe is going to be dangled for a big in the offseason.

Edit: And so many people are freaking out about this roster. The Suns have, what, the 3rd youngest team in the league? Yet they're above .500 in the Western Conference. Put them in the East, against that competition, and they're a lock. You've got teams 5+ games under .500 competing for a spot in the East. That's horrible.

I'm not saying they don't have issues. They do. Primarily they're just not very likeable and Bledsoe is a terrible PG. Great talent. Exciting player. But a terrible PG. That's going to have to change, and I don't know if it can.

The Suns have a lot of young assets and "raw" talent. They just need a few veterans to help guide them. I don't think they're the trainwreck that most fans do, and I expect to see a busy offseason. McD is clearly not afraid to make moves. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Bledsoe and the Wonder Twins in different cities next season.

I really don't mind a young roster and watching this team grow. I don't mind them stock piling assets. I just want to see them get away from this 2 PG crap and to continue to look at the PF spot.

In terms of dangling Bledsoe? I also kind of had that feeling after the Knight trade. I thought...it's sort of dumb to admit that you screwed up with your strategy, trade half the roster only to go with a 2 PG system AGAIN. I was thinking that they would use this rest of this year to either decide to pony up for BK, trade Bledsoe or move on from Knight.

 

[devilalum]

Had we not made any trades we would have finished 9th or 10th. Having traded Goran and Thomas, 10th or 11th is a given IMO.

Steve

This is probably accurate. A true evaluation of the moves made will have to wait until next season.

 

[AzStevenCal]

This is probably accurate. A true evaluation of the moves made will have to wait until next season.

Actually it will probably be quite awhile before we can evaluate the moves. The Knight deal might play out soon but the Goran trade and even the IT deal involve future assets. It will probably be a few years or even longer before we know their value. Right now though, we clearly have less talent than we did before the moves.

Steve

 

[JS22]

I really don't mind a young roster and watching this team grow. I don't mind them stock piling assets. I just want to see them get away from this 2 PG crap and to continue to look at the PF spot.

In terms of dangling Bledsoe? I also kind of had that feeling after the Knight trade. I thought...it's sort of dumb to admit that you screwed up with your strategy, trade half the roster only to go with a 2 PG system AGAIN. I was thinking that they would use this rest of this year to either decide to pony up for BK, trade Bledsoe or move on from Knight.

I'm with you. I'd just like watching them grow more if they were, well, likable. Bledsoe is a ghost in the media, the Wonder Twins tend to mouth off, Green is the ultimate chucker, and Tucker is tough but limited. Just not a lot of likable guys. And the ISO ball is tiring.

There are some guys like Len, Warren, Goodwin, Knight, and even Wright that I look forward to seeing. I think Knight is having a hard time adjusting. The team / system is kind of a mess and he was thrown right into it. I think he can be a pretty effective hybrid SG / PG with a legitimate distributor alongside him. Bledsoe isn't that guy IMO. So I could see the Suns try and flip Bledsoe for a big and bring in a "pure" PG to play with Knight. I don't have a problem with the 2 PG system if they go that route.

And I'm not ready to blame Hornacek just yet. I want to see what he does with a better, and hopefully more balanced, roster.

 

[slinslin]

Dragic jumped off this sinking ship at the right time. Good chance he could have hurt his market value and $$ if he stayed on the Suns til summer even if IT got traded. For a player who played on an insanely bargain contract the last 3 years, I'm sure he wants to finally get that big pay day and can't blame him.

Seems like people in Miami love him already and he loves it there as well

https://twitter.com/flasportsbuzz/status/570317035391074304

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