Suns trade for Beal

[Proximo]

So a few things I have learned.

beal is the best guard at driving to the bucket in the league. 71% shooting in the restricted area and he drove the 4th most of any guard. That will help us a ton.

we have bird rights on Craig, landale and bazley. All 3 are most likely getting resigned and maybe for extra money just to make them into tradeable pieces. Craig can still be our 5th starter and be passable.

we also have Payne and wainright already under contract.

supposedly there are offers on the table for ayton, i think from Charlotte and Orlando where we could get multiple players.

so overall I am feeling even better about this deal.

 

[Finito]

So a few things I have learned.

beal is the best guard at driving to the bucket in the league. 71% shooting in the restricted area and he drove the 4th most of any guard. That will help us a ton.

we have bird rights on Craig, landale and bazley. All 3 are most likely getting resigned and maybe for extra money just to make them into tradeable pieces. Craig can still be our 5th starter and be passable.

we also have Payne and wainright already under contract.

supposedly there are offers on the table for ayton, i think from Charlotte and Orlando where we could get multiple players.

so overall I am feeling even better about this deal.

Do you know what the offers are?

I like Wendel Carter Jr and Bol Bol in Orlando

There’s no one in Charlotte I want

 

[Hoop Head]

So a few things I have learned.

beal is the best guard at driving to the bucket in the league. 71% shooting in the restricted area and he drove the 4th most of any guard. That will help us a ton.

we have bird rights on Craig, landale and bazley. All 3 are most likely getting resigned and maybe for extra money just to make them into tradeable pieces. Craig can still be our 5th starter and be passable.

we also have Payne and wainright already under contract.

supposedly there are offers on the table for ayton, i think from Charlotte and Orlando where we could get multiple players.

so overall I am feeling even better about this deal.

I like Orlando for Ayton because they have a number of young-ish players who could be something. I'd do Ayton for Cole Anthony, Wendell Carter, and Gary Harris. Works financially. Gives the Suns a big in Carter, a young PG with potential in Anthony, and a shooting role player off the bench in Harris. Not super attractive but makes us more well rounded.

 

[Proximo]

Do you know what the offers are?

I like Wendel Carter Jr and Bol Bol in Orlando

There’s no one in Charlotte I want

i think Charlotte is mark Williams and Gordon Hayward.

I think Jonathan isaccs is part of the orlando deal, don’t know the rest. probably cole Anthony.

 

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[Dr. Jones]

If we get Carter from Orlando then we need a gold plated James Jones statue out front immediately. He's better than DA IMO.

 

[Hoop Head]

i think Charlotte is mark Williams and Gordon Hayward.

I think Jonathan isaccs is part of the orlando deal, don’t know the rest.

That's what I was afraid of, taking Isaac's deal. Talk about never healthy. I know Gary Harris isn't great but I'd try to get him over Isaac. Ishbia needs to work his Jedi mind trick down in Orlando. Make it a 3 way call with the Wizards, maybe have the Wiz throw in a 2nd rounder for it to happen.

 

[Chaplin]

If we get Carter from Orlando then we need a gold plated James Jones statue out front immediately. He's better than DA IMO.

I'm curious how you came to that conclusion - DA beats Carter in almost every statistical category.

 

[elindholm]

It's a good trade because it represents a consistent strategy. The Suns are all-in for a title this year and have decided to sacrifice their future for it. That was already true before the Beal trade, and they were past the point of no return, so the only logical thing to do is double down.

 

[Finito]

i think Charlotte is mark Williams and Gordon Hayward.

I think Jonathan isaccs is part of the orlando deal, don’t know the rest. probably cole Anthony.

That’s a horrible Charlotte offer

I was really high on Isaac coming out but he’s Been a huge bust who’s been injured a lot. Cole Anthony is average at best

 

[Proximo]

That’s a horrible Charlotte offer

I was really high on Isaac coming out but he’s Been a huge bust who’s been injured a lot. Cole Anthony is average at best

I don’t know, mark Williams is young and supposedly a defensive center. Hayward could be a decent 6 th man. It might not be awful. And maybe we can pry a 1st rounder out of them as well.

 

[Chaplin]

I don’t know, mark Williams is young and supposedly a defensive center. Hayward could be a decent 6 th man. It might not be awful. And maybe we can pry a 1st rounder out of them as well.

We got Bradley Beal for CP3 and Shamet. That Charlotte trade would be a huge let-down.

 

[overseascardfan]

I've read the market for Ayton is "lean" and PHX may need to prepare for his return.

 

[clyde2tw]

With KD/Book/Beal in place, I'd like Okogie (maybe the bi-exc)，Landale (4m/y?), Biyombo (min) and Saben Lee (min) come back for sure; and our other FAs maybe. Craig's role maybe easily replaced with min-players available at trading deadline, thus not worth 5m/y he'd ask, now we are way way over the 3rd tax apron. Same with Payne at 6.5m. Damion is not a good fit for the new team. Bazley, Warren and Ross are welcom back if on min deals.
So, all else depends on what DA can get us via trades. I'd hope for Mark Willams and Oubre (s&t) with Hornets. A Williams/KD/Oubre/Book/Beal starting lineup, with bench Okogie/Payne/Saben/Landale/Biyombo/Ross/Bazley/Ish, can be a good start, with more vets on min deals to join.

 

[Proximo]

We got Bradley Beal for CP3 and Shamet. That Charlotte trade would be a huge let-down.

if that is your standard just about every trade will be a letdown. That might the most lopsided trade since Gobert.

but if we are locked into ayton s contract because of the 2nd apron like they are saying, I am now thinking we are going to trade him by the draft.

 

[Raindog]

We got Bradley Beal for CP3 and Shamet. That Charlotte trade would be a huge let-down.

But honestly, that's probably going to be every deal going forward, comparatively speaking.

 

[SeattleCardinal]

Espn gave us a D grade for the trade btw. How in the hell does trading for an all-star while giving up absolutely nothing earn a d grade? Awe inspiring

I just read Kevin Pelton’s piece. I understand his health and financial logic, but a D grade is pretty absurd. I am sure that there will be other, conflicting views at ESPN on this one.

 

[Proximo]

With KD/Book/Beal in place, I'd like Okogie (maybe the bi-exc)，Landale (4m/y?), Biyombo (min) and Saben Lee (min) come back for sure; and our other FAs maybe. Craig's role maybe easily replaced with min-players available at trading deadline, thus not worth 5m/y he'd ask, now we are way way over the 3rd tax apron. Same with Payne at 6.5m. Damion is not a good fit for the new team. Bazley, Warren and Ross are welcom back if on min deals.
So, all else depends on what DA can get us via trades. I'd hope for Mark Willams and Oubre (s&t) with Hornets. A Williams/KD/Oubre/Book/Beal starting lineup, with bench Okogie/Payne/Saben/Landale/Biyombo/Ross/Bazley/Ish, can be a good start, with more vets on min deals to join.

Bringing Craig back is a no brainer at almost any price. He is better than 90% of the minimum type guys we will be able to sign.

I think warren will get more than the min.

i like our chances to get biyambo.

Both lee’s can easily be resigned, I hope we can do better.

ross I am not sure I want back, we need to focus on defenders.

okogie I hope we can get, but my gut says he leaves for a better payday.

I don’t think we have the use of even bi annual exception after this deal, but not sure, maybe we do because it is pre new cba.

 

[Mainstreet]

I just read Kevin Pelton’s piece. I understand his health and financial logic, but a D grade is pretty absurd. I am sure that there will be other, conflicting views at ESPN on this one.

It sounds like the momentum at ESPN is shifting after reading an excerpt from Brian Windhorst.


Brian Windhorst, ESPN Senior WriterJun 18, 2023, 09:30 PM ET:


Over the past week, the Phoenix Suns' ownership and front office came to a conclusion as they considered the idea of trading for Washington Wizards guard Bradley Beal:

Don't just break the rules, smash them to bits.

With Bradley Beal trade, Suns are building a superteam before it's too late

If there was ever a team that was going to make this move for the three-time All-Star, it was Phoenix, and ESPN's Brian Windhorst explains why now.

www.espn.com

 

[Folster]

It's a good trade because it represents a consistent strategy. The Suns are all-in for a title this year and have decided to sacrifice their future for it. That was already true before the Beal trade, and they were past the point of no return, so the only logical thing to do is double down.

Solid take.

 

[clyde2tw]

It sounds like the momentum at ESPN is shifting after reading an excerpt from Brian Windhorst.


Brian Windhorst, ESPN Senior WriterJun 18, 2023, 09:30 PM ET:


Over the past week, the Phoenix Suns' ownership and front office came to a conclusion as they considered the idea of trading for Washington Wizards guard Bradley Beal:

Don't just break the rules, smash them to bits.

With Bradley Beal trade, Suns are building a superteam before it's too late

If there was ever a team that was going to make this move for the three-time All-Star, it was Phoenix, and ESPN's Brian Windhorst explains why now.

www.espn.com

good read!
As long as Beal's health is no issue, it's a great move by the Suns.

 

[Absolute Zero]

Good trade, though sad to see CP3 go. Beal is a tremendous get.

The Wiz only save about 5 mil by waiving Paul so not sure whether that happens. https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2023/jun/18/bradley-beal-traded-suns/

Will be interesting to see what if anything can be done to address our other needs.

 

[BurqueCardFan]

I've read the market for Ayton is "lean" and PHX may need to prepare for his return.

If returning to a team comprised of Booker, Durant and Beal can’t motivate Ayton to step his game up then he should be embarrassed even more.

 

[Proximo]

If returning to a team comprised of Booker, Durant and Beal can’t motivate Ayton to step his game up then he should be embarrassed even more.

Im not sure if ayton can be embarrassed.

remember he constantly refers to himself as Dominayton.

 

[mjb21aztd]

Love this trade!!!! Beal is deadly talented and more fresher energy than cp3 will miss cp3 though

420 sativa rainbow rings givin lungs a break lol to trade