The Walking Dead (AMC)

[cardfaninfl]

Over the weekend I was coerced into watching a few earlier episodes, and it was nice to see Caine from 'Kung Fu' again. Then the mid-season premiere aired, reminding me why I dropped this series over a year ago.

Spoiler

An entire motorcycle gang is eliminated with one rocket grenade...mmm'kay. But not only are they killed but blown to pieces while the good guys don't get a scratch standing only 6 feet away. You start off a mid-season premiere with a scene that is so stupid it shocks the audience out of it's suspension of disbelief by insulting their intelligence?

Glenn, veteran of dealing with large groups of zombies, purposefully gathers dozens of zombies to a place where he is cornered with no escape, and within eyesight of his baby momma. He loves her so much he wants her to witness his stupid death? Not to worry, he is saved by snipers using auto fire to score all head shots.

Wolfie, who personifies the ideology of these individualists (that ironically form a gang and mark each other so they can all look exactly the same), suddenly abandons his beliefs because he is in love with a lesbian who is practicing medicine without a licence and has obviously been eating more than her share of the town's food. That is your big morality tale? Let us recap Wolfie's character arch: Scene establishing his character, scene confirming his character, scene reinforcing his character, scene with him doing the opposite (coz... reasons) and dying.

The writing is unrealistic, insulting, and predictable. Character progression of "flatline, flatline, flatline, SPIKE!, death" is not good storytelling, its first year Creative Writing class filled with kids who forgot to take their Adderall and Ritalin.

And to give attention to the school-yard massive burn/question: I'm watching it because I was stupidly convinced by people who are easily entertained. I will do my best not to be so foolish in the future.

 

[Chaplin]

Over the weekend I was coerced into watching a few earlier episodes, and it was nice to see Caine from 'Kung Fu' again. Then the mid-season premiere aired, reminding me why I dropped this series over a year ago.

Spoiler

An entire motorcycle gang is eliminated with one rocket grenade...mmm'kay. But not only are they killed but blown to pieces while the good guys don't get a scratch standing only 6 feet away. You start off a mid-season premiere with a scene that is so stupid it shocks the audience out of it's suspension of disbelief by insulting their intelligence?

Glenn, veteran of dealing with large groups of zombies, purposefully gathers dozens of zombies to a place where he is cornered with no escape, and within eyesight of his baby momma. He loves her so much he wants her to witness his stupid death? Not to worry, he is saved by snipers using auto fire to score all head shots.

Wolfie, who personifies the ideology of these individualists (that ironically form a gang and mark each other so they can all look exactly the same), suddenly abandons his beliefs because he is in love with a lesbian who is practicing medicine without a licence and has obviously been eating more than her share of the town's food. That is your big morality tale? Let us recap Wolfie's character arch: Scene establishing his character, scene confirming his character, scene reinforcing his character, scene with him doing the opposite (coz... reasons) and dying.

The writing is unrealistic, insulting, and predictable. Character progression of "flatline, flatline, flatline, SPIKE!, death" is not good storytelling, its first year Creative Writing class filled with kids who forgot to take their Adderall and Ritalin.

And to give attention to the school-yard massive burn/question: I'm watching it because I was stupidly convinced by people who are easily entertained. I will do my best not to be so foolish in the future.

Kudos on making a subtle insult on pretty much 90% of the people on this thread.

 

[BigRedRage]

Kudos on making a subtle insult on pretty much 90% of the people on this thread.

Ive come to accept that people just watch it to rip it apart because it isnt their cup of tea. I dont do that but maybe I should start watching reality shows or wrestling and then go on forums and bitch about how the punches arent real.

Nah, I'll just stick to watching shows I like.

 

[puckhead]

Kudos on making a subtle insult on pretty much 90% of the people on this thread.

It was probably just a bad wine pairing that put him in a lousy mood. I cannot stand Rick with a Dornfelder. Much too sweet.

 

[BigRedRage]

It was probably just a bad wine pairing that put him in a lousy mood. I cannot stand Rick with a Dornfelder. Much too sweet.

A prime example of how you became one of my favorite posters around here

 

[Southpaw]

It's entertainment. I will admit that I FF through some of the sappier scenes with the emotional dialog.

 

[Covert Rain]

Ive come to accept that people just watch it to rip it apart because it isnt their cup of tea. I dont do that but maybe I should start watching reality shows or wrestling and then go on forums and bitch about how the punches arent real.

Nah, I'll just stick to watching shows I like.

There are probably a ton of closet watchers too that would never admit to liking the show. Basically, just like 99% of the viewership of anything Kardashian.

Both are equally contrived but one is definitely cooler than the other.

 

[PDXChris]

There are probably a ton of closet watchers too that would never admit to liking the show. Basically, just like 99% of the viewership of anything Kardashian.

Both are equally contrived but one is definitely cooler than the other.

No way, TWD is way more real than the Kardashian show.

 

[chickenhead]

Lots of great tips in this show. Next time I'm out of matches, I'll reach for that RPG! But I enjoyed the episode. I just actually finished up a couple other show I was watching, so this arrived right on time.

 

[devilalum]

Another thing about Glenn. At the start of the season I was worried that I would be really bothered by him dying. Now I don't care.

 

[devilalum]

It's entertainment. I will admit that I FF through some of the sappier scenes with the emotional dialog.

Exactly, gotta get right to the hot zombie action.

 

[BigRedRage]

Another thing about Glenn. At the start of the season I was worried that I would be really bothered by him dying. Now I don't care.

I feel the same, at this point it wont bother me when he does.

 

[Stout]

Another thing about Glenn. At the start of the season I was worried that I would be really bothered by him dying. Now I don't care.

Well, that's not good.

I feel the same, at this point it wont bother me when he does.

Part of what drove me away. Andrea, I think the character's name was. The writers were so bad with the character I was rooting for many episodes for her to just die.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I feel the same, at this point it wont bother me when he does.

me neither... and that's a problem considering how much I liked his character before the faux death. Now, I almost just WANT him to die because him being alive bugs me in every scene.

not to mention... if they DO kill him the way everyone expects from the comics, everyone already KNOWS that's coming. And if they DON'T kill him that way, everyone will probably be pissed they chickened out there also. They've written themselves into a corner, just like they did Glen's character... too many times to really care at this point.

 

[devilalum]

me neither... and that's a problem considering how much I liked his character before the faux death. Now, I almost just WANT him to die because him being alive bugs me in every scene.

not to mention... if they DO kill him the way everyone expects from the comics, everyone already KNOWS that's coming. And if they DON'T kill him that way, everyone will probably be pissed they chickened out there also. They've written themselves into a corner, just like they did Glen's character... too many times to really care at this point.

If you really didn't care...

sent from a fone

 

[BigRedRage]

Well, that's not good.



Part of what drove me away. Andrea, I think the character's name was. The writers were so bad with the character I was rooting for many episodes for her to just die.

I think they wanted that. Negative emotions earn ratings too. Couldn't stand her

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[BigRedRage]

me neither... and that's a problem considering how much I liked his character before the faux death. Now, I almost just WANT him to die because him being alive bugs me in every scene.

not to mention... if they DO kill him the way everyone expects from the comics, everyone already KNOWS that's coming. And if they DON'T kill him that way, everyone will probably be pissed they chickened out there also. They've written themselves into a corner, just like they did Glen's character... too many times to really care at this point.

I'm a Glenn fan I just feel the writing is on the wall

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[UncleChris]

Lots of great tips in this show. Next time I'm out of matches, I'll reach for that RPG! But I enjoyed the episode. I just actually finished up a couple other show I was watching, so this arrived right on time.

Well..... here's a little fire science course for you.....

Liquid gasoline does not burn.... The vapors do. Heat causes gasoline to vaporize... the more the heat, the faster the evaporation. Also important is that gasoline vapors are heavier than air.

So now you've put a couple of thousand gallons of gasoline in the lake. The vapor collects over the water and will travel by air currents and hug the ground. So now, you want to walk up to the edge of the lake and strike a match???? Uh...... I'll come visit you in the burn unit, assuming you survive. There's a lot of amateur arsonists who have found this out the hard way.

So an alternative would be that if you stand as far away as you can and still reach it with a lit flare... AND you do not have a strong smell of gasoline, well.... that would probably work. So would the rocket launcher if the projectile was fused, or if it was shot at a solid object in the lake, such as a boat or a protruding rock, or even the shoreline.

But most importantly.... it looked really cool!!!!



Sorry..... ol' fireman UC came out there for a minute.....

 

[Stout]

I think they wanted that. Negative emotions earn ratings too. Couldn't stand her

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Not really. Everyone I talked to was talking about stopping watching the show because of how awful it was. Definitely was a contributing factor for me.

 

[BigRedRage]

Not really. Everyone I talked to was talking about stopping watching the show because of how awful it was. Definitely was a contributing factor for me.

But you still post in the thread seasons later

I watched half a season of orange is the new black, decided I think it is garbage and never have talked about the show again.

Ill never understand the countless posts of people talking about how much they dislike the show

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[Stout]

But you still post in the thread seasons later

I watched half a season of orange is the new black, decided I think it is garbage and never have talked about the show again.

Ill never understand the countless posts of people talking about how much they dislike the show

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Honestly, because this show is such a strange social phenomenon. It fascinates me that it still has such a large following. To me, and my good friend who stuck it out for longer than I did, it's a water cooler show. The show itself no longer matters--it's the socially cool thing to do, and people don't want to be left in the lurch with what's being discussed as cool. I'm not bagging on people for doing so, per se--as a network and show, it's got to be a frickin' dream scenario, to achieve such status. I think it has absolutely nothing to do with the quality--or lack thereof--of the show.

I'll be the first to admit that it had its moments of brilliance. It had to, or I wouldn't have continued watching. It did just enough to string me along, bit by bit. A good episode here or there amongst four or five bad ones, or one good ten-minute stretch in an otherwise crapfest episode. The midseason finales used to be killer, which is what would hook me again (the really awful hospital midseason finale FINALLY killed it for me).

Now, this is from season 2 on, mind you--IMO season 1 was good stuff. The whole Walking Dead/Mad Men/funding kerfuffle, and Darabont's jettison, truly hurt the show. It needed a crack writing staff to keep it top-notch, and instead it just has a hit-or-miss staff.

But, really, I find it fascinating from a social perspective, so I like to continue reading what people have to say about it.

 

[Southpaw]

but Andrea had a nude scene. What's wrong with that?

 

[Hoop Head]

but Andrea had a nude scene. What's wrong with that?

A nude scene on basic cable that showed what exactly? Sorry but in the days of the internet and HBO showing a little skin on a show like Walking Dead does nothing attract or retain viewers.

 

[D-Dogg]

Loved this episode. My ship finally came in

 

[oaken1]

excellent episode!! Rick and Michonne playing hide the salami was long over due....she has performed in the "Partner" capacity for a long time now while rick went chasing blondes.
Jesus is an interesting character...I woulda shot him the first time...dude is way to proficient in hand to hand to leave standing behind you...not shooting him cost them a truckload of much needed goods and stymied Rick's afterglow..
anyone else thinking Jesus might be another of Nigan's?