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[Evil Ash]

If everyone was looking at millions of dollars and was still drinking enough to get arrested 3 times in college that would be a good comparison.

It's just very unusual for this franchise to take a kid with that kind of history.

Hope it works, some guys wake up one day and realize it's time to grow up, I hope Floyd has that wakeup call.

The only one that raises his eyebrow is the DUI. The other 2 arrests were for underage drinking which is about as minor as it gets.

He moved into the dorm after his DUI and was basically a model citizen after that. Having Fitz helps matters and in the end it may end up a smart move with all the Olineman continuing to fall

 

[Stout]

Sorry you feel that way brother. Still love ya. Seriously I was just trying to be funny but I will happily take it down since it upsets you.

Mea Culpa.

Groovy, bro. And yeah, I'm touchy right now, no doubt. I really think we flubbed that pick.

DeCastro to Steelers where he'll make the Hall of Fame?

See, this is what sickens me. We may or may not have picked a good player--Floyd is boom or bust to me. I think the Steelers are just laughing at a lot of teams, as they just picked who IMO will be a perennial all-pro. That's what has me steamed. We could have had DeCastro, or Ingram, projected to be a dominant pass rusher and who could have made our defense really scary, or Hightower, who I feel is a Lewis/Willis type of ILBer. Instead, we took a WR2, a position it would have been easy to fill in a WR-rich FA class. Argh!

 

[DemsMyBoys]

He's now checking into Camp Fitzgerald.

Also known as the guest house.

Great choice.

(Thanks, Skorp. )

 

[O]

The more I see of this kid the more I like him.

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/f4/floyd-highlights-178680.html

 

[CtCardinals78]

Really guys how can you not like this???

@Cardschatter: WR Michael Floyd on being picked by Cards: "I saw the 602 (area code) coming and wanted to jump for joy. But I kept it calm." #CardsDraft

 

[Goldfield]

A lot of 50 catch overpriced free agent wideouts was hardly a great market and we already had two of those. This is a 6-3, 220lb, superior talent that matches well with Fitz and frees up two receivers to play the slot. We certainly have other needs but we can't solve them all with one pick. Let's see the rest of this draft, etc.

I couldn't of said it better than that. We can't fix everything with one pick. But we just got much more explosive and also took some pressure off Fitz.

We may have the best run blocking WRs in the NFL. And both are huge and physical. With the rules today our two huge WRs have a big advantage over the smaller DBs.

 

[Cardiac]

Cards FO MO. Take an impact player in rd1 and 2 then go high character etc.

I really don't have concerns about Floyd's youthful indiscretions.

What does every draft pundit say....Surround your QB with playmakers so he can achieve his best.

 

[az1965]

Dockett had temper issues I don't recall him having been arrested 3 times in college.

I thought there were off field problems, not just anger... here are some links/clips

http://news.google.com/newspapers?n...ThOAAAAIBAJ&sjid=xP0DAAAAIBAJ&pg=5987,2557987


Seminoles


By Josh Robbins, Sentinel Staff Writer, April 13, 2003
THE GOOD: The wide receivers played more consistently than coaches expected. Juniors Craphonso Thorpe, P.K. Sam, Dominic Robinson and Chauncey Stovall displayed good hands, and Robinson, in particular, showed improvement. Sophomore linebacker A.J. Nicholson looked like a star in the making . The team's tight ends -- Paul Irons, Matt Henshaw and Donnie Carter -- are making strides in becoming receiving threats. THE BAD: Injuries forced many of the team's best defensive players to miss all or most of spring practice, while defensive tackle Darnell Dockett missed all of the spring because of off-field issues.


In light of the recent run of incidents that have led to the Sugar Bowl suspensions of Chris Rix and Darnell Dockett and the dismissal of Adrian McPherson within the past month, the Seminoles are developing a reputation as a "monster" program run amok off the field.
The negative publicity has struck a nerve with FSU athletics director Dave Hart, who outlined ground rules for the Seminoles upon their arrival for Wednesday's Sugar Bowl against No. 4 Georgia.
"I told the players if they even approach a gray area, I had identified where the bus station was," Hart said. "There would be no meetings with coach Bowden. They would be on the way home."
Hart's patience has been worn by what he views as "poor choices" by players

 

[Duckjake]

The only one that raises his eyebrow is the DUI. The other 2 arrests were for underage drinking which is about as minor as it gets.

He moved into the dorm after his DUI and was basically a model citizen after that. Having Fitz helps matters and in the end it may end up a smart move with all the Olineman continuing to fall

The key is Fitzgerald. We often talk about how a guy needs to go to say the Ravens so Ray Lewis can straighten him out.

Here's an example of a guy turning it around:

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BensCe00.htm

And Cedric had no mentor.

I'll bet with Fitz it doesn't even take a week for Floyd to get on board.

 

[Russ Smith]

Well, more then a year ago since getting in trouble is technically history, so you got a point.

3 arrests by the time you're 21 is a history.

 

[Russ Smith]

The only one that raises his eyebrow is the DUI. The other 2 arrests were for underage drinking which is about as minor as it gets.

He moved into the dorm after his DUI and was basically a model citizen after that. Having Fitz helps matters and in the end it may end up a smart move with all the Olineman continuing to fall

Come on do we really believe the DUI was the only time he drank and drove?

I am not saying underage drinking is a massive issue, but when you are playing football at ND and get arrested 3 times by the time you're 21, that's not coincidence.

 

[joeshmo]

3 arrests by the time you're 21 is a history.

But none for more then a year. How long do you have to stay clean before he gets the benefit of the doubt. Is it 1 year, 2 years, 3 years, never. Just wondering.

 

[CtCardinals78]

Come on do we really believe the DUI was the only time he drank and drove?

I am not saying underage drinking is a massive issue, but when you are playing football at ND and get arrested 3 times by the time you're 21, that's not coincidence.

Racial profiling?

 

[1DS]

But none for more then a year. How long do you have to stay clean before he gets the benefit of the doubt. Is it 1 year, 2 years, 3 years, never. Just wondering.

7 years. Just like with a credit report.

 

[wilycoyote24]

Underage drinking in college?!? NO!!!!! He will burn in hell for that! Next thing you'll tell me is that he has had sex out of wedlock and occasionally uses profanities. (The DUI is serious, but that is a common issue among athletes, and just about everyone else, so he isn't special in that regard).

 

[Evil Ash]

Come on do we really believe the DUI was the only time he drank and drove?

I am not saying underage drinking is a massive issue, but when you are playing football at ND and get arrested 3 times by the time you're 21, that's not coincidence.

Do you really believe he's the only player that drank and drove but didn't get caught? Hell if we went by what might've happened by college athletes partying then we'd have picks from schools like BYU

From the sounds of things he got his life together and started to focus on football after his DUI and hasn't gotten in trouble since. Maybe he grew up

 

[Russ Smith]

But none for more then a year. How long do you have to stay clean before he gets the benefit of the doubt. Is it 1 year, 2 years, 3 years, never. Just wondering.

How do you know he's been clean? There's a difference between not getting arrested and being clean. 3 arrests by 21 suggests a problem with alcohol, generally speaking people like that aren't magically cured by Larry Fitzgerald it takes time.

I hope it works he's very talented but this is a very unusual pick for this franchise.

 

[CardsFan88]

Floyd is considered the best blocking WR in the draft.

Need was obviously OT, but only Reiff was worthy, and maybe the strength not being there for a few years was just enough to pass on him. I like Decastro, but guard wasn't a need. Still would have been good to have him. No doubt. But I think we add more to our team with a stud WR. We already have good run blocking. Not great, and at times it fails, but if we could address our lack of ability to stop a speed rusher, we have a solid line.

We needed a #2 WR. We just drafted a #1 wr who is the best blocker, physical, and goes up to catch the ball and yacs it up more on the field than in front of a police officer in college. Also a guy who can bridge the gap when Larry can't cut it anymore. Larry is still young, but in 7 years, Larry will be pretty old, and This guy will be about the age Larry is now.

This is the type of WR the cards know how to use, and we are lucky, repeat lucky that so soon after Boldin we basically draft almost a clone who has been schooled and also has similarities with Fitzgerald. If I may take a bit of a liberty to say we just drafted Anquan Fitzgerald, and he'll be on our team for years, not just 2012. I don't see how a guy who is a mixture of the best two wr's we've had for a long time isn't a great pick regardless of where it was. Need is need, but talent is also talent.

What's scary is that with Fitz and Floyd sucking up coverage, Housler and Roberts are going be wide open unless they leave Fitz or Floyd open. Of course if our QB hasn't been sacked by a speed rusher, but we got six picks and free agency so there is still hope we address it.

We can now look for the speedy WR if we need to in FA or in future years. I believe this settles a very important part of what we do on offense. We've grown accustomed to having two stud wr's, and we needed to get back to that. This is a pick that will help our staff get the most out of what they are trying to do. I also think when you combine the impact of Floyd with Ryan Williams, we're adding some significant talent to our offense. Hopefully Housler continues to develop as that speed TE that can make defenses pay. Floyd's talent makes everyone else on offense more effective at what they do.

I love this pick.

 

[Russ Smith]

Racial profiling?

You're on fire tonight. DUI's big deal, kid gets busted 3 times has to be racism?

Or did you forget the smiley?

College football players are incredibly protected, even at a school like ND despite their denials on that. To get arrested three times is not easy.

 

[wilycoyote24]

How do you know he's been clean? There's a difference between not getting arrested and being clean. 3 arrests by 21 suggests a problem with alcohol, generally speaking people like that aren't magically cured by Larry Fitzgerald it takes time.

I hope it works he's very talented but this is a very unusual pick for this franchise.

I don't know about you, but I drank while underage in college perhaps more than 100 times. I drove drunk a couple of times. The latter is terrible and I'll never do it again. But, I now drink five times per year, so I was able to move past being a stupid teenager.

 

[football karma]

well - as I said a week ago, I am "meh" on Floyd, and that likely meant the Cards would take him -- and he would turn out to be really good. So -- one prediction down, one to go.


What I like about this pick: he does look like the second coming of Larry Fitz. Sneaky fast rather than an explosive blazer -- but just catches everything thrown at him. Tracks the ball and gets it with his hands. Great body control. Mayock says he is the best blocking WR in the draft as well.

I love the idea of two big WRs on either side that can go overpower people and get the football.

the downside: we get another X years of listening to Viking message board rumors about the Vikings bringing him home in free agency.

 

[CtCardinals78]

You're on fire tonight. DUI's big deal, kid gets busted 3 times has to be racism?

Or did you forget the smiley?

College football players are incredibly protected, even at a school like ND despite their denials on that. To get arrested three times is not easy.

Yes I did forget the smiley, but no I don't think three underage drinking arrests for a college kid is that big of a deal.

 

[CardsFan88]

Today cops bust everyone for drinking. They'll breathalyze 50 kids or more and herd them in line like cattle. Hell they've been doing that for 15-20 years and pre 9/11, I'd hate to be an under 21 kid now. Almost everyone I knew growing up had 2-6. They'd didn't even need to see YOU drinking. They just needed to see a single can if they wanted to being drunk by someone they asked ID, and they'd breathalyze everyone. Guilty until innocent catches more people. It's not like all those with drinking tickets got them because they were doing stupid stuff and the cop decided to bust them for alcohol. The cops use alcohol as license to run everyone through the gamut until you prove you're innocence by passing a test regardless of anything else. I'm not concerned one bit with these sort of crimes at least with regards to one being able to play football or hold down a job.

He was an adult, but a subjective law made drinking a crime for adults that weren't 21. Shoplifting is a worse crime.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

But none for more then a year. How long do you have to stay clean before he gets the benefit of the doubt. Is it 1 year, 2 years, 3 years, never. Just wondering.

Never will for some on this board, it would seem..

 

[joeshmo]

How do you know he's been clean?

He was going through a substance abuse program all this past year which came with random testing. It was part of his being reinstated. It is apart of the Notre dame handbook for alcohol assessment to get re-instated, the only thing Notre Dame waved as apart of that rule was the sitting out for a semester.

There's a difference between not getting arrested and being clean. 3 arrests by 21 suggests a problem with alcohol

Not true at all. First he wasn't arrested three times, he was arrested once. He was given a $38 citation twice for under age drinking. Second its college. I spent my fair share of time in the campus police drunk tank. Doesn't mean I had a problem with alcohol. I was just a dumb college student who went to a party and paid for a red cup.