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Man I hope he can play, but I’m in no way deluding myself into believing the 52nd pick is going to make the roster, much less contribute, this season. I used to do that with strawberry’s of the world.
I generally agree, but he has a fairly straightforward skill set and this team is currently devoid of any depth. He should at least make the roster, but anything beyond that is impossible predict. Hope to see him in SL.
 

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Man I hope he can play, but I’m in no way deluding myself into believing the 52nd pick is going to make the roster, much less contribute, this season. I used to do that with strawberry’s of the world.
I guess that depends on what happens in free agency. As of now, he probably would make the roster just because of potential open spots. But if we sign a few players it might be g-league for him, which would not be a bad outcome.
 

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I know generalizations suck, but watching this guy's interviews, etc, first thing that popped into my head is Mikal Bridges. Guy has an electric smile and is really positive. I think he's going to be well liked in the locker room. He's also a little shy like Bridges. It's going to be fun to watch this guy mature on our squad. He has that little town feel in that Brussels, Belgium is not an NBA hot bed of talent. He acknowledges that a lot in the clips I have seen of him being interviewed. I think it will be a blast when he meets Landale, who is going to tease the **** out of this kid! :lol:
 

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I can't recall the 52nd pick or any late pick being counted on to be a contributor or even make the roster since I can remember.

It certainly shows how hungry Suns fans are for draft picks.
 

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I can't recall the 52nd pick or any late pick being counted on to be a contributor or even make the roster since I can remember.

It certainly shows how hungry Suns fans are for draft picks.
I consider draft picks mainly coin in your pocket. Always good to have some loose change.
 

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I can't recall the 52nd pick or any late pick being counted on to be a contributor or even make the roster since I can remember.

It certainly shows how hungry Suns fans are for draft picks.
Not "counted on" but there have been second round picks that have been contributors, for sure. In fact, I believe our current MVP was a second round pick. Kyle Korver was a 51st pick, and Patty Mills a 55th pick. Steve Kerr 50, Manu Ginobli at 57. The list is actually pretty long.

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Not "counted on" but there have been second round picks that have been contributors, for sure. In fact, I believe our current MVP was a second round pick. Kyle Korea was a 51st pick, and Patty Mills a 55th pick. Steve Kerr 50, Manu Ginobli at 57. The list is actually pretty long.

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And Isaiah Thomas was drafted #60.
 

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I can't recall the 52nd pick or any late pick being counted on to be a contributor or even make the roster since I can remember.

It certainly shows how hungry Suns fans are for draft picks.
Only one pick, so that's the guy we talk about. If we had a first-rounder, this guy would not get that much attention. It's ok. He has some interesting qualities.
 

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Ok

Only one pick, so that's the guy we talk about. If we had a first-rounder, this guy would not get that much attention. It's ok. He has some interesting qualities.

I think we all miss talking about draft picks. It's one of the more fun things to talk about.
 

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I like the pick. I can see with his skill set, he's got a chance to get playing time. We have scorers. We need defense and rebounding. Especially if we trade Ayton.
 

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Notable second-round NBA Draft picks since merger (1976)
PlayerDraftPick
Dennis Johnson197629
Alex English197623
Maurice Cheeks197836
Rick Mahorn198035
Danny Ainge198131
Doc Rivers198331
Jerome Kersey198446
Mark Price198625
Dennis Rodman198627
Nate McMillan198630
Jeff Hornacek198646
Steve Kerr198850
Clifford Robinson198936
Toni Kukoc199029
Antonio Davis199045
P.J. Brown199229
Nick Van Exel199337
Stephen Jackson199742
Rashard Lewis199832
Manu Ginobili199957
Michael Redd200043
Gilbert Arenas200131
Carlos Boozer200235
Mo Williams200347
Kyle Korver200351
Trevor Ariza200443
Lou Williams200545
P.J. Tucker200635
Paul Millsap200647
Marc Gasol200748
DeAndre Jordan200835
Goran Dragic200845
Patrick Beverley200942
Danny Green200946
Patty Mills200955
Hassan Whiteside201033
Isaiah Thomas201160
Jae Crowder201234
Draymond Green201235
Khris Middleton201239
Jerami Grant201439
Nikola Jokic201441
Montrezl Harrell201532
Norman Powell201546
Malcolm Brogdon201636
Dillon Brooks201745
Jalen Brunson201833

 

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Wow! The merger was 1976? That late? I remember watching Dr. J in the ABA, and Dan Issell the Missell. I would have guessed earlier.
 

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Notable second-round NBA Draft picks since merger (1976)
PlayerDraftPick
Dennis Johnson197629
Alex English197623
Maurice Cheeks197836
Rick Mahorn198035
Danny Ainge198131
Doc Rivers198331
Jerome Kersey198446
Mark Price198625
Dennis Rodman198627
Nate McMillan198630
Jeff Hornacek198646
Steve Kerr198850
Clifford Robinson198936
Toni Kukoc199029
Antonio Davis199045
P.J. Brown199229
Nick Van Exel199337
Stephen Jackson199742
Rashard Lewis199832
Manu Ginobili199957
Michael Redd200043
Gilbert Arenas200131
Carlos Boozer200235
Mo Williams200347
Kyle Korver200351
Trevor Ariza200443
Lou Williams200545
P.J. Tucker200635
Paul Millsap200647
Marc Gasol200748
DeAndre Jordan200835
Goran Dragic200845
Patrick Beverley200942
Danny Green200946
Patty Mills200955
Hassan Whiteside201033
Isaiah Thomas201160
Jae Crowder201234
Draymond Green201235
Khris Middleton201239
Jerami Grant201439
Nikola Jokic201441
Montrezl Harrell201532
Norman Powell201546
Malcolm Brogdon201636
Dillon Brooks201745
Jalen Brunson201833


There is also probably a sizeable list of notable undrafted free agents.
 

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45 or so players on that list. 11 were either picked by or at some point played for the Suns.
 

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45 or so players on that list. 11 were either picked by or at some point played for the Suns.
I joke about that EVERY Suns game with my wife. Pick the former Suns on the other team. There are usually 2-3 every game. At a minimum there's one, usually. Can't think of a team off the top of my head without a former Suns player.
 

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The NBA used to be much smaller and scouting wasn't a big business back then so it should be no surprise that many good players were still available in the 2nd round and later. In a 15 year stretch thanks to expansion and the ABA merger the league grew from 10 teams in 66 to 23 teams in 81.

Gradually teams began investing in more scouting which led to a decrease in the number of rounds. When I was a kid, the draft ended only when the teams ran out of players they were interested in and it sometimes went 20 rounds or more.
 
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The NBA used to be much smaller and scouting wasn't a big business back then so it should be no surprise that many good players were still available in the 2nd round and later. In a 15 year stretch thanks to expansion and the ABA merget the league grew from 10 teams in 66 to 23 teams in 81.

Gradually teams began investing in more scouting which led to a decrease in the number of rounds. When I was a kid, the draft ended only when the teams ran out of players they were interested in and it sometimes went 20 rounds or more.
I think for a while in the eighties and nineties, we still had dominant teams gather the most talent. But now with Europe, Asia, and Africa starting to supply players, our talent pool is getting deeper, and the gap between top and bottom is not as steep as it used to be. I think there are more teams that can challenge for the top prize now. Heck, in the eighties, preseason talk was if the Celtics or Lakers would win that year. Other teams were basically an after thought. This last season was wide open. I think we are finally getting to where most teams can field a decent roster.
 

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Wow! The merger was 1976? That late? I remember watching Dr. J in the ABA, and Dan Issell the Missell. I would have guessed earlier.
Who could forget Rick Barry and the famous underhanded free throws he rarely missed. Hated that multi colored basketball…
 

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Who could forget Rick Barry and the famous underhanded free throws he rarely missed. Hated that multi colored basketball…
Made seeing the rotation of the ball easy. Plus the red, white, and blue was ahead of the bicentennial!
 

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