Who is the Star the Suns could get or event want?

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I'd be interested in the rumored Jeff Green and Keith Bogans for Emeka Okafor and 1st. I've been a fan of Green's for awhile but the Suns would get a SF that can score and defend against James/Durant etc. and they wouldn't break up core, more importantly. The Suns would Add him to current squad, not necessarily replace Gerald/Marcus...


Plumlee, Frye, Green, Dragic, Bledsoe

Morris, Morris, Tucker, Green, Barbosa

Len and Goodwin could earn the minutes they play and the Suns would still have multiple Picks to possibly Trade up for another solid player in '14 Draft. Suns would be 4 deep at every position (this year).

Green is athletic and in Suns system can play 3 positions - 3.2 FTM/game and 1.5 3PTM/game.
 

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We would have too many players. That will be the trick of the Suns next move. Someone will have to go, so we can upgrade the position. Otherwise we just waste players on the bench like Indiana did with Plumlee last year. We have to find a way to:

1. Put together a championship level top 3.
2. Have a cohesive starting lineup
3. Solid 4 man bench.

I am not sure what the point would be in dinking around with players that would be 4-9 guys on the roster. As I look at it, we are one star/superstar level player away from having what we want. I would just focus on getting that one player. Once that is in place, and we find we need a three point shooter, or a defensive specialist, or something, we can go get him then.

I would trade away all our picks, young assets (yes Archie), along with our starter at the position to get the right star player.

Funny thing is, we conceivably could get LeBron this summer without giving up anything. If he is smart, he would look at the Suns as a destination.
 
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I am with everyone else and would absolutely love to have Love as our starting 4, but I have mixed feelings on actually trading for him rather than signing him or in a S&T. My biggest fear would be, if the rumors of him ONLY wanting to sign with the Fakers, that he tells the Wolves to trade him to Phoenix. The Suns then trade a ton of assets for him. After being traded to the Suns, plays for a year and a half (refusing contract extension or playing cat and mouse on one) and signs as a FA with LA. What has he done to one of the Fakers biggest rivals? Depleted very good assets from our Suns to make it easier for the Fakers in the Pacific Division. Just some Devil's Advocate fear I have of a straight trade for him without a contract extension complete.
 

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Funny thing is, we conceivably could get LeBron this summer without giving up anything. If he is smart, he would look at the Suns as a destination.

That's not a wholly ridiculous notion, but why would he choose Phoenix over Cleveland?
 

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We would have too many players. That will be the trick of the Suns next move. Someone will have to go, so we can upgrade the position. Otherwise we just waste players on the bench like Indiana did with Plumlee last year. We have to find a way to:

1. Put together a championship level top 3.
2. Have a cohesive starting lineup
3. Solid 4 man bench.

I am not sure what the point would be in dinking around with players that would be 4-9 guys on the roster. As I look at it, we are one star/superstar level player away from having what we want. I would just focus on getting that one player. Once that is in place, and we find we need a three point shooter, or a defensive specialist, or something, we can go get him then.

I would trade away all our picks, young assets (yes Archie), along with our starter at the position to get the right star player.

Funny thing is, we conceivably could get LeBron this summer without giving up anything. If he is smart, he would look at the Suns as a destination.

Who is this right player and then we can talk... Durant, Lebron, Aldridge?
 

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That's not a wholly ridiculous notion, but why would he choose Phoenix over Cleveland?

In Cleveland, he has been there, done that. They are not a solid team. The Suns are clearly on the way up with players in place and the ability to add a player of his choice.
 

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In Cleveland, he has been there, done that. They are not a solid team. The Suns are clearly on the way up with players in place and the ability to add a player of his choice.

The Cavaliers have Irving and Bennett, two #1 overall picks. Yes, Irving is flawed and Bennett is looking like a colossal bust so far, but it's still a more appealing youth core than Dragic and Len. And their salary situation is excellent. Throw in the home-town affection, and James would have a very hard time turning down Cleveland for Phoenix.
 

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The Cavaliers have Irving and Bennett, two #1 overall picks. Yes, Irving is flawed and Bennett is looking like a colossal bust so far, but it's still a more appealing youth core than Dragic and Len. And their salary situation is excellent. Throw in the home-town affection, and James would have a very hard time turning down Cleveland for Phoenix.

False comparison. Why Dragic and Len? Dragic, Bledsoe, Len, Plumlee, even Frye would be a selling point for LeBron. And the Morris brothers as enforcers or trade bait to get a player here he wants.

I think Dragic and Bledsoe is more appealing than Irving and Bennett. Also Bennett supposedly plays the same position as LeBron.

I don't think he is going to Cleveland no matter what. Its just too much of a mess. I suppose if Cleveland gets a top 3 pick this year and lands Wiggins or Parker, that might be a draw.
 
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False comparison. Why Dragic and Len? Dragic, Bledsoe, Len, Plumlee, even Frye would be a selling point for LeBron.

Bledsoe very well may not be here. And as for Plumlee and Frye, you can look at any roster in the league and find "attractive" role players if you don the right glasses. Imagining James looking over the Suns' roster and thinking, "Hey, cool, I could team up with Channing Frye!" strikes me as pretty unrealistic.

And the Morris brothers as enforcers

You must be using that word differently from how I'm used to.

I don't think he is going to Cleveland no matter what. Its just too much of a mess.

You could be right, but then I've never considered James to be all that rational in his decision-making.

In any case, I maintain that Irving is closer to a real star than anyone on the Suns' roster, and James learned from his first stint in Cleveland that he can't do it without a world-class sidekick.
 

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Bledsoe is not going anywhere.

Frye is an appeal because of his size and shooting. In that way he might be the best in the league at the "stretch 4" position. He is a player that would complement LeBron very well (so would Markieff). There are alot of teams that would love to have Frye.

The Suns would be a contender with LeBron, maybe even a championship favorite--and that is without adding anyone else to the roster.
 

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In any case, I maintain that Irving is closer to a real star than anyone on the Suns' roster, and James learned from his first stint in Cleveland that he can't do it without a world-class sidekick.

You can really see some bias in that--just comparing Irving and Dragic, other than a 1-2 point-per-game difference, the two players are nearly identical. Irving just happens to be the more marketable. East coast bias.
 

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You can really see some bias in that--just comparing Irving and Dragic, other than a 1-2 point-per-game difference, the two players are nearly identical. Irving just happens to be the more marketable. East coast bias.

Is it also "East coast bias" that Irving is six years younger? Come on. There's not a GM in the league who would consider Irving and Dragic to be of comparable value.
 

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I'm hoping to be super wrong on Len and have him end up being a slightly lesser version of Roy hibbert.

Len is just really, really raw. And he's coming off of an injury. A pretty terrible combination.

But once and awhile he shows those flashes of serious potential. It's just going to take a few years for him to realize it - if he ever does.

I still don't hate the pick because it wasn't that strong of a draft, especially at #5.
 

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That's not a wholly ridiculous notion, but why would he choose Phoenix over Cleveland?

Lebron coming to PHX is a pipe dream. He's either staying in Miami, going back "home" to Cleveland, or moving to a big market. If Miami wins again I wouldn't be all too surprised to see him try to redeem himself in Cleveland.
 

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IMO the Suns #1 need is a killer low post defender/rebounder.
Get Bledsoe back and add a young Dennis Rodman.
 

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The Cavaliers have Irving and Bennett, two #1 overall picks. Yes, Irving is flawed and Bennett is looking like a colossal bust so far, but it's still a more appealing youth core than Dragic and Len. And their salary situation is excellent. Throw in the home-town affection, and James would have a very hard time turning down Cleveland for Phoenix.

I'm surprised you even mentioned Bennett in this conversation. The Suns have Dragic, Bledsoe, Plumlee, Green, Len, Goodwin and a large expiring contract in Okafor. Bennett was supposed to be a more sure thing in the last draft. However, both Len and Goodwin will both surpass him. I'll go ahead and say it, Goodwin will become a star.
 

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IMO the Suns #1 need is a killer low post defender/rebounder.
Get Bledsoe back and add a young Dennis Rodman.

I think this is what the Suns need as well. A FC that can fulfill these needs would take the Suns to another level.
 

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The Suns would be a contender with LeBron, maybe even a championship favorite--and that is without adding anyone else to the roster.

The only way we get him is through a sign and trade or straight up trade deal. No way LeBron chooses to come here. We simply don't get any love from those types of players unless they use us as a bargaining chip of they are approaching the end of their careers.
 

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The Suns would be a contender with LeBron, maybe even a championship favorite--and that is without adding anyone else to the roster.

Add James to most rosters, and that team is instantly a contender. Imagine LeBron in Dallas, Minnesota, Washington, or 15 other teams.
 

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I'm surprised you even mentioned Bennett in this conversation. The Suns have Dragic, Bledsoe, Plumlee, Green, Len, Goodwin and a large expiring contract in Okafor. Bennett was supposed to be a more sure thing in the last draft. However, both Len and Goodwin will both surpass him. I'll go ahead and say it, Goodwin will become a star.

He can't shoot, dribble or pass at an NBA level. I think you're going to be disappointed.
 

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The only way we get him is through a sign and trade or straight up trade deal. No way LeBron chooses to come here. We simply don't get any love from those types of players unless they use us as a bargaining chip of they are approaching the end of their careers.

You must be really young or have a short memory. There was a day when every free agent considered Phoenix first.
 

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He can't shoot, dribble or pass at an NBA level. I think you're going to be disappointed.

I don't think so. He is only age 19 and he has lot of time to get there. I'm not sure about Len, but then again, he has a long time to get there as well.
 

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