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Will Kendrick Perkins be suspended for Game 5?
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Oopsy Daisy! Ya know, if the ref really wanted to, he could have totally flopped right there and sent KG packing immediately.
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Anyone remember when Jordan was suspended from a game against the Suns because he pushed a ref? I think it was in '93.
Refs flopping, hehe. Now that would be the end of the NBA.
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I remember something about that but wasn't the 1 game suspension he served against the SUNS? .......i don't think the incident happened against the SUNS.
I could be wrong there.
Oh and people are reporting Marvin Williams also came off the bench but you dont see it in teh video.
A few minutes after the altercation, the guys on TNT went back and showed showed Marvin Williams technically step out on the court. It was not a good angle.
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Yeah, sorry Donald, I'm not seeing what you're seeing. I saw Perkins clearly step out onto the court during the altercation. To make it even worse, Stern was in the audience not far from where it happened. It's a violation and he should be suspended 1 game in my opinion.
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Glad he didn't(due to the consequences) but it would've been outstanding to see J.J. put his fist thru Cassell's big ugly alien grill tonight.
pierce, just like i thought he was. never the team all-star, but a role player.
chokes/blows the layup. there'e was another play before that, but pierce screwed up as well. he might have cost them the game in the last 2min.
big bad C's banging their chests, talking sweep...oopsie, its all tied.
chokes/blows the layup. there'e was another play before that, but pierce screwed up as well. he might have cost them the game in the last 2min.
big bad C's banging their chests, talking sweep...oopsie, its all tied.
wtf
He wasnt on the court until the whistles started blowing. He was already up but he hadnt stepped foot onto the court until the whistles. Watch it again. I'm 100% sure of this.
Yeah, he was on the court. When the first whistle goes off, he pumps his arm and walks a bit further into the court..angled and not straight. When Pachulia gets up in KG's grill, however (the "altercation" begins") Perkins does nothing...stands there and the coach pulls him back. At the point of the altercation, Perkins is already on the court, on his spot and doesn't move, other than back to the bench.
Don't bet on Perkins being suspended. And watch Sterns response to be the one I put above.
On further review and different angles, KG should be suspended. He clearly used force on shoving that ref off of him.
No, if anything I'm trying to be as objective as possible. If I wanted to convince myself or see what I wanted to see there, I'd picture Perkins pulling out a machete and getting bounced from the league for good. Then KG and Pierce and Ray Allen getting into a fight with each other and never able to play together again.
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Ya know, if the ref really wanted to, he could have totally flopped right there and sent KG packing immediately.
Yep, totally needs a game suspension for that move.
The NBA...where flopping refs happens.
Mike and Mike were reshowing the clips and talking about them, pretty much saying KG should be suspended.
The way I see it, the ref didnt even whistle KG for the "leave me alone" move, so I doubt much else happens with that. Maybe a fine.
I havent seen the guys leaving the bench area. Should be interesting though.
Game 5 is tomorrow night, so I'd expect to hear something this morning.
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At the :16 mark of the video - KG clearly pushes the ref so he can get back into the altercation. IMO that is a suspension. But it won't happen.
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If KG isn't suspended it won't be a shock as Stern does what he wants and justifies it however he wants its a total joke. If your a superstar guess you can do anything you want.
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Yea, I didn't notice it when I watched it live, but watching it on replay - he clearly knew that was a ref, and he clearly tried to push him off
Here is a quote from Stern during the Diaw/Stoudamire suspension;
"Our players have to learn that they can't leave the bench and move 20 feet down the line, wherever it is, and be subject to all of the possible things that can happen," Stern said Wednesday. "That's why it's a red-letter rule."
"Our players have to learn that they can't leave the bench and move 20 feet down the line, wherever it is, and be subject to all of the possible things that can happen," Stern said Wednesday. "That's why it's a red-letter rule."
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If Perkins and Marvin aren't suspended, the Suns should file a re-play request on grounds of un-even treatment in last years Amare/Diaw suspension.
The NBA shouldn't be able to use 'letter oof the law' defense last year, and then be subjective this year.
Oh yeah, and GO HAWKS!!!! I hate the Celtics.
The NBA shouldn't be able to use 'letter oof the law' defense last year, and then be subjective this year.
Oh yeah, and GO HAWKS!!!! I hate the Celtics.
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It'll be interesting to watch this play out. The NBA just fined Pierce 25K for his flashing of the Bloods sign at Horford in game 3 after Horford taunted him.
They called it a menacing hand gesture but apparently it's the sign for the bloods. Danny Ainge tried to explain it away by saying he does the sign before every game it means "blood, sweat and tears", but apparently the NBA didn't buy that.
So if they have to suspend Garnett and Perkins now it'll be interesting.
They called it a menacing hand gesture but apparently it's the sign for the bloods. Danny Ainge tried to explain it away by saying he does the sign before every game it means "blood, sweat and tears", but apparently the NBA didn't buy that.
So if they have to suspend Garnett and Perkins now it'll be interesting.
I just read that too. Apparently blood, sweat and tears looks strikingly similar to the Piru Bloods sign (Inglewood, CA).
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I joked on a UCLA board now we know the real reason Pierce didn't go to UCLA, wrong color.
just what the NBA needs a year after a gambling scandal and with people finally forgetting about the artest going into the crowd stuff, now we have players flashing gang signs.
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I think you're being too generous with when the altercation starts. It didnt start after the whistles, it started at the whistles. Thats when it was recognized by the officials as being a situation, and they needed to intervene. And Perkins was still advancing at that time, and was also technically closer to his altercation than both diaw and stat were to theirs.
All those things needed to be considered and not dismissed as quickly as you are dismissing them.
