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My thoughts exactly.

I do think jones likes Halliburton a lot, but I don’t want to give up next years first to get him.
I would. In a heartbeat. I believe next years first-rounder will be in the 20's. Haliburton has the highest floor in this draft IMO.

Would you give up #10 and say #21 to move up to #5 or #6. Absolutely. That's a no-brainer--especially if you can get a little protection on the pick.
 

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I would. In a heartbeat. I believe next years first-rounder will be in the 20's. Haliburton has the highest floor in this draft IMO.

Would you give up #10 and say #21 to move up to #5 or #6. Absolutely. That's a no-brainer--especially if you can get a little protection on the pick.

Yeah, I would do that as well.
 

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At this point, Precious Achiuwa or Jalen Smith has to be the pick, unless Obi Toppin somehow plummets to 10. This team is in serious trouble at the power forward spot.
 

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Vernan Carey Jr from Duke now supposedly weighs 270 according to coach K. Supposedly had a monster off season training regime!
 

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Vernan Carey Jr from Duke now supposedly weighs 270 according to coach K. Supposedly had a monster off season training regime!

Unfortunately he isn't quick enough to defend the 4 and doesn't have much of an outside shot, and I don't want to give Ayton any more excuse to hang out on the perimeter.
 

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At this point, Precious Achiuwa or Jalen Smith has to be the pick, unless Obi Toppin somehow plummets to 10. This team is in serious trouble at the power forward spot.

In today's NBA you're much better off playing a long wing at the 4 than you are playing without a lead ball handler. Two years of Paul, we need to find and start grooming the next guard while Chris is still here. I'm okay with whichever way we go, just pointing out that our need at guard is too great to simply reach for a power forward. Best player available, whoever that is.
 

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In today's NBA you're much better off playing a long wing at the 4 than you are playing without a lead ball handler. Two years of Paul, we need to find and start grooming the next guard while Chris is still here. I'm okay with whichever way we go, just pointing out that our need at guard is too great to simply reach for a power forward. Best player available, whoever that is.

Carter and Payne are at least capable, if not ideal.
 

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Carter and Payne are at least capable, if not ideal.

I forgot about Payne. I'd still go for BPA but you're right, our need at PG is not as great as our need at PF. I like Carter but I think Cameron comes closer to being an everyday power forward than Carter does an everyday point guard.
 

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Unfortunately he isn't quick enough to defend the 4 and doesn't have much of an outside shot, and I don't want to give Ayton any more excuse to hang out on the perimeter.
I was thinking of we can't get PF, we get Center and Ayton plays PF.
 

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Even after this trade I am still on the “whoever is available out of the top 10 players” bandwagon:
Edwards
Wiseman
Ball
Avdija
Okoro
Hayes
Haliburton
Okongwu
Vassell
Toppin

Before the trade I didn’t really like the fit of Okoro on this team, but with Oubre gone I think he would bring some much needed athleticism to the team. The other 9 are no brainers to me.
 

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Even after this trade I am still on the “whoever is available out of the top 10 players” bandwagon:
Edwards
Wiseman
Ball
Avdija
Okoro
Hayes
Haliburton
Okongwu
Vassell
Toppin

Before the trade I didn’t really like the fit of Okoro on this team, but with Oubre gone I think he would bring some much needed athleticism to the team. The other 9 are no brainers to me.

It looks like Patrick Williams is going Top 10 as well, so two of these should be available...
 

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It looks like Patrick Williams is going Top 10 as well, so two of these should be available...
I agree, so it’s a bonus... plus who knows if there is a surprise pick and 3 could be available. Whether it is 1,2, or 3 to choose from I just hope we choose one of them.
 

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I agree, so it’s a bonus... plus who knows if there is a surprise pick and 3 could be available. Whether it is 1,2, or 3 to choose from I just hope we choose one of them.

I think I'm there as well, though I wouldn't be upset if the pick was Smith, Achiuwa, Lewis or Saadiq Bey over Okoro or Vassell.
 

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I think I'm there as well, though I wouldn't be upset if the pick was Smith, Achiuwa, Lewis or Saadiq Bey over Okoro or Vassell.
For once I think we are on the same page. I wouldn't pick those players over Okoro or Vassell (who are definitely 9 and 10 on that list) but I wouldn’t be overly upset if they did.
 

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After acquiring 36 year old Chris Paul they aren’t waisting his twilight years with one and done teenagers. I’m looking at Halliburton or Bey who I feel are mentally and physically ready to be a top-8/9 rotation guy next year. Maybe Vassell.
 

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After acquiring 36 year old Chris Paul they aren’t waisting his twilight years with one and done teenagers. I’m looking at Halliburton or Bey who I feel are mentally and physically ready to be a top-8/9 rotation guy next year. Maybe Vassell.

Unfortunately that also puts a major reach for Bane in play...
 

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The Suns actively fought any trade including the #10. This tells me they have a target they are convinced will be there

It's going to be a Cam Johnson style "reach"

I was wrong on that so I am going to trust Jones here
 

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I have a feeling it’s either Bane or Nesmith.

Nesmith is not a physically and mentally ready top 8/9 rotation guy next year. (Then again, neither is Bane, but unfortunately it seems James Jones thinks he is.)

Praying for Haliburton somehow to fall to 10...
 

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The Suns actively fought any trade including the #10. This tells me they have a target they are convinced will be there

It's going to be a Cam Johnson style "reach"

I was wrong on that so I am going to trust Jones here

It was still a reach and a poor pick. Why are you trusting him in spite of that?
 

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The Suns actively fought any trade including the #10. This tells me they have a target they are convinced will be there

It's going to be a Cam Johnson style "reach"

I was wrong on that so I am going to trust Jones here
TBF we did trade back before taking Cam and we might be trying to do the same thing here.

Trade back 4-6 spots, get a solid veteran player and then draft someone that they have tabbed at around that point in the draft.
 

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