All quiet on Washington front

[oaken1]

The team may just look for a reason to cut him when this is all done....conduct detrimental or something like that. They are moving forward without him,...aint talking about him,.. and they cannot trust him.

 

[BigRedRage]

conjecture...

73.6% Of All Statistics Are Made Up

http://www.businessinsider.com/736-of-all-statistics-are-made-up-2010-2

 

[NMCard]

On Urban's blog today he said that Arians was asked about fans begging for information and he said, "Ask Daryl. I'm not allowed to talk to him. Have the Birdgang call Daryl." LOL.

Agree 100%. Asking the NFL or the team about Daryl's personal business is not really reasonable.

 

[Cheesebeef]

in the comments section from the blog that has Arian's Washington quote, Urban goes on to say:

"I agree it would be unjust if the player didn’t know what was going on. But how do you know he doesn’t? Let’s put it this way — if Washington truly felt he was being wronged here, he and his agent (and the NFLPA, I’d think) would be making a major stink, no? The team can’t talk to Daryl, but Daryl could do an on-the-record interview or put out a statement if he wanted.
If you are saying it’s unjust that the public at large doesn’t know, I disagree there."

Sorry guys.. I know a lot you are loathe to ever criticize one of our own (some were even calling for the firing of the poor security guard who was merely doing his job in reporting suspicious activity that got Massie's disasterously drunk ass busted), but at this point, I think it's pretty easy to call a spade a spade here. Washington has gotten into trouble a ridiculous amount of times and his/the NFLPA's silence on the matter only leads me to believe he screwed up again here.

 

[BigRedRage]

in the comments section from the blog that has Arian's Washington quote, Urban goes on to say:

"I agree it would be unjust if the player didn’t know what was going on. But how do you know he doesn’t? Let’s put it this way — if Washington truly felt he was being wronged here, he and his agent (and the NFLPA, I’d think) would be making a major stink, no? The team can’t talk to Daryl, but Daryl could do an on-the-record interview or put out a statement if he wanted.
If you are saying it’s unjust that the public at large doesn’t know, I disagree there."

Sorry guys.. I know a lot you are loathe to ever criticize one of our own (some were even calling for the firing of the poor security guard who was merely doing his job in reporting suspicious activity that got Massie's disasterously drunk ass busted), but at this point, I think it's pretty easy to call a spade a spade here. Washington has gotten into trouble a ridiculous amount of times and his/the NFLPA's silence on the matter only leads me to believe he screwed up again here.

A shame that we can lose a star player over marijuana

 

[frankeegee1]

Well, it "seems" like, to me, 95% of the stuff I read on here is "conjecture". Even what I'm writing now. :-\

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[splitsecond]

More assumptions. And I disagree that the public doesn't need to know. As a season ticket holder and someone who spends thousands of dollars a year on this team and the NFL, I think it's at least the right thing to do to let me know what I am paying for. I can see why Washington might not make an announcement, but it' against everything the NFL has been doing to say nothing. Wouldn't they gladly make an example out of him if he is continuing to screw up?

 

[kerouac9]

More assumptions. And I disagree that the public doesn't need to know. As a season ticket holder and someone who spends thousands of dollars a year on this team and the NFL, I think it's at least the right thing to do to let me know what I am paying for. I can see why Washington might not make an announcement, but it' against everything the NFL has been doing to say nothing. Wouldn't they gladly make an example out of him if he is continuing to screw up?

Do you really think that Daryl Washington is acting like a person who is unjustly being kept from earning $3.4M in salary starting in two weeks? These aren't, like, assumptions based on the guy's character or some prejudice. Everyone's sending the same message if you choose to listen.

 

[LittleDavis]

Do you really think that Daryl Washington is acting like a person who is unjustly being kept from earning $3.4M in salary starting in two weeks? These aren't, like, assumptions based on the guy's character or some prejudice. Everyone's sending the same message if you choose to listen.

Kerouac, what does your above statement mean? It doesn't appear to accord with the quote that you quoted in conjunction with your statement.

As paying customers, we have the right to ask what is happening with a star PRODUCT. McDonalds explained why they are no longer selling the Big Mac or what kind of meat is in a taco from taco bell. The NFL owes the fans and definitely owes these players more than they are giving them. The majority of these guys are used and abused and tossed to the side. I don't see Goodell having post-concussion symptoms. The players are a product and the game is a product and the owners and NFL executives are the one's capitalizing. We, as fans, live in the illusion or the delusion that these games are anymore than a distraction...when in Rome...watch a gladiatorial game.

 

[splitsecond]

Do you really think that Daryl Washington is acting like a person who is unjustly being kept from earning $3.4M in salary starting in two weeks? These aren't, like, assumptions based on the guy's character or some prejudice. Everyone's sending the same message if you choose to listen.

No one is sending any message, and it doesn't matter what you base your conclusion on, it is all still an assumption because there is literally no information out there from anyone. This is completely unprecedented. I don't expect Washington back based on the radio silence, but I can't assume it's something he did any more than I can assume it's something the NFL is doing. As bad as his pattern of behavior is, Goodell's frankly has become worse.

Kerouac, what does your above statement mean? It doesn't appear to accord with the quote that you quoted in conjunction with your statement.

As paying customers, we have the right to ask what is happening with a star PRODUCT. McDonalds explained why they are no longer selling the Big Mac or what kind of meat is in a taco from taco bell. The NFL owes the fans and definitely owes these players more than they are giving them. The majority of these guys are used and abused and tossed to the side. I don't see Goodell having post-concussion symptoms. The players are a product and the game is a product and the owners and NFL executives are the one's capitalizing. We, as fans, live in the illusion or the delusion that these games are anymore than a distraction...when in Rome...watch a gladiatorial game.

I agree with this. This isn't a normal employment situation. This is a situation where people have paid for a product with the knowledge that there are rules governing reinstatement, and all we have heard is that DW has applied for reinstatement, and the NFL is pretending there is nothing going on. They haven't denied he has applied, and haven't said anything. They continue to think they are above the law, the players and the people who pay for their existence.

 

[kerouac9]

Kerouac, what does your above statement mean? It doesn't appear to accord with the quote that you quoted in conjunction with your statement.

As paying customers, we have the right to ask what is happening with a star PRODUCT. McDonalds explained why they are no longer selling the Big Mac or what kind of meat is in a taco from taco bell. The NFL owes the fans and definitely owes these players more than they are giving them. The majority of these guys are used and abused and tossed to the side. I don't see Goodell having post-concussion symptoms. The players are a product and the game is a product and the owners and NFL executives are the one's capitalizing. We, as fans, live in the illusion or the delusion that these games are anymore than a distraction...when in Rome...watch a gladiatorial game.

No one is sending any message, and it doesn't matter what you base your conclusion on, it is all still an assumption because there is literally no information out there from anyone. This is completely unprecedented. I don't expect Washington back based on the radio silence, but I can't assume it's something he did any more than I can assume it's something the NFL is doing. As bad as his pattern of behavior is, Goodell's frankly has become worse.



I agree with this. This isn't a normal employment situation. This is a situation where people have paid for a product with the knowledge that there are rules governing reinstatement, and all we have heard is that DW has applied for reinstatement, and the NFL is pretending there is nothing going on. They haven't denied he has applied, and haven't said anything. They continue to think they are above the law, the players and the people who pay for their existence.

Honestly, how many people do you think paid for a single ticket because they expect(ed) Daryl Washington to play this year? Does a fan who paid for Packers season tickets deserve their money back if Aaron Rodgers tears his ACL at May minicamp? Give me a break.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

73.6% Of All Statistics Are Made Up

http://www.businessinsider.com/736-of-all-statistics-are-made-up-2010-2

Damn, I thought it was 68%.

 

[kerouac9]

Here is what Urban is trying to tell you guys who are in pretty deep denial:

Because given the privacy rules with the CBA and the substance abuse program, Daryl is the only one who could publicly reveal anything.

...

I agree it would be unjust if the player didn’t know what was going on. But how do you know he doesn’t? Let’s put it this way — if Washington truly felt he was being wronged here, he and his agent (and the NFLPA, I’d think) would be making a major stink, no? The team can’t talk to Daryl, but Daryl could do an on-the-record interview or put out a statement if he wanted.

If you are saying it’s unjust that the public at large doesn’t know, I disagree there.

...

If you somehow believe that Daryl is telling the truth that he hasn't heard from anyone when his agent and the NFLPA isn't standing up for him, you're believing the word of a guy who has left his teammates (and us fans) in the lurch for 21 games over 2 years including a playoff game, who left his child unattended in a car, and who struck his child's mother.

More power to you, but those are the facts.

 

[LittleDavis]

Honestly, how many people do you think paid for a single ticket because they expect(ed) Daryl Washington to play this year? Does a fan who paid for Packers season tickets deserve their money back if Aaron Rodgers tears his ACL at May minicamp? Give me a break.

I'll give you a break but a friend of mine, who like me, has had Sunday ticket since it began has cancelled due to deflate-gate. you are attempting to compare apples and oranges...not to may toe or to ma toe. Injuries and over reach are not the same thing at all. Seems to be a problem of logic here rather than semantics...?

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Damn, I thought it was 68%.

60% of the time; it works all the time.

 

[Zeno]

I'll give you a break but a friend of mine, who like me, has had Sunday ticket since it began has cancelled due to deflate-gate. you are attempting to compare apples and oranges...not to may toe or to ma toe. Injuries and over reach are not the same thing at all. Seems to be a problem of logic here rather than semantics...?

I don't see how this is considered "over reach". You as fan have a right to ask whatever you want from the NFL or your team but they are under no obligation to give you an answer.

As was posted above there are privacy rules in place with the CBA, the CBA which is negotiated with the league and their player reps...not with the fans.

 

[Cheesebeef]

No one is sending any message, and it doesn't matter what you base your conclusion on, it is all still an assumption because there is literally no information out there from anyone. This is completely unprecedented. I don't expect Washington back based on the radio silence, but I can't assume it's something he did any more than I can assume it's something the NFL is doing. As bad as his pattern of behavior is, Goodell's frankly has become worse.



I agree with this. This isn't a normal employment situation. This is a situation where people have paid for a product with the knowledge that there are rules governing reinstatement, and all we have heard is that DW has applied for reinstatement, and the NFL is pretending there is nothing going on. They haven't denied he has applied, and haven't said anything. They continue to think they are above the law, the players and the people who pay for their existence.

This isn't without precedent. Same thing is happening with Blackmon, another MULTIPLE time IDIOT, who Washington has actually ONE UPPED by assaulting a woman.

And again, if this was such a Goodell problem, why is the NFLPA COMPLETLEY SILENT? They love bucking the commish at every turn... But this time, nothing. THAT silence speaks volume more then anything here. How people just ignores this like its nothing is beyond me.

 

[TJ]

This isn't without precedent. Same thing is happening with Blackmon, another MULTIPLE time IDIOT, who Washington has actually ONE UPPED by assaulting a woman.

And again, if this was such a Goodell problem, why is the NFLPA COMPLETLEY SILENT? They love bucking the commish at every turn... But this time, nothing. THAT silence speaks volume more then anything here. How people just ignores this like its nothing is beyond me.

Confidentiality with substance abuse cases stretch to the NFLPA as well as the player and league.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Confidentiality with substance abuse cases stretch to the NFLPA as well as the player and league.

I get that, but if Washibgton and the NFLPA thought they were being WRONGED, they could easily waive that right and make a stink. But they haven't. Again, if he's being so wronged, why not go the Brady route? Why not go the players in the Bountygate route? They fought/are fighting unfair suspensions in court and came out on top. Washibgton and the NFLPA are doing NOTHING.

 

[CardLogic]

As paying customers, we have the right to ask what is happening with a star PRODUCT. McDonalds explained why they are no longer selling the Big Mac. . .

What? They no longer sell the Big Mac???


:theonlynewsinthisthread:

 

[LittleDavis]

What? They no longer sell the Big Mac???


:theonlynewsinthisthread:

My bad...I fell for the hoax over a year ago...I haven't eaten fast food in a long time. That debunks my argument.

 

[LittleDavis]

I don't see how this is considered "over reach". You as fan have a right to ask whatever you want from the NFL or your team but they are under no obligation to give you an answer.

As was posted above there are privacy rules in place with the CBA, the CBA which is negotiated with the league and their player reps...not with the fans.

I think it is over reach...league violations and injuries are two totally different equations...that is my point.

 

[splitsecond]

This isn't without precedent. Same thing is happening with Blackmon, another MULTIPLE time IDIOT, who Washington has actually ONE UPPED by assaulting a woman.

And again, if this was such a Goodell problem, why is the NFLPA COMPLETLEY SILENT? They love bucking the commish at every turn... But this time, nothing. THAT silence speaks volume more then anything here. How people just ignores this like its nothing is beyond me.

Blackmon's denial is public knowledge. I thought the NFL had released that, I might be wrong.

The one thing that I agree on is that it is completely odd that the NFLPA and Washington haven't said anything. You would think raising a stink when Goodell is under hellfire would make sense. Maybe it's a strategy considering those with DV issues get no media sympathy. I really don't know.

Like I said, he may never be back, particularly this season, but it's all assumptions and I don't think anything is out of the realm of possibility with the way the NFL is conducting business right now.

 

[daves]

Daryl [...] left his child unattended in a car....

More power to you, but those are the facts.

He did?? I don't recall seeing that particular accusation published. Was he charged for this?

...dave

 

[BigRedRage]

He did?? I don't recall seeing that particular accusation published. Was he charged for this?

...dave

I have never heard of him leaving kids in a car either.

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