All quiet on Washington front

[Brian in Mesa]

I don't think anyone is arguing that it is double jeopardy. The NFL is perfectly within its rights to suspend him more. It's just been a long time since the offense, and Washington, by all accounts, has turned himself into a good citizen in that time. It is also within their rights to recognize that.

We will see.

It's only been a long time since the offense because he was suspended "at least one year" for another offense.

:safe:

 

[JCSunsfan]

It's only been a long time since the offense because he was suspended "at least one year" for another offense.

:safe:

Yes. I think we all know that. It seems they should have suspended him for the DV at the time, rather than waiting a year to levy a penalty. 4 games, plus at least a year for the drug issue or something like that.

Anyway. Whatever.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Yes. I think we all know that. It seems they should have suspended him for the DV at the time, rather than waiting a year to levy a penalty. 4 games, plus at least a year for the drug issue or something like that.

Anyway. Whatever.

Now that makes sense.

 

[CardLogic]

Irrespective of Daryl Washington's situation; the NFL is making a mess of their code of conduct enforcement. Everyone with half a brain realizes that the league doesn't care a lick about the actual offenses, but instead their concern is only of how the tarnished perception of the league and its "employees" may impact current and future revenues.

It's been handled very unevenly from the beginning. Roger Godell as judge, jury and executioner has been a debacle.

 

[BigRedRage]

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cant wait

 

[MadCardDisease]

It's Quiet... Too Quiet!!!

 

[BigRedRage]

Articles have pointed to July 15 being the deadline for the league to do something

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[Dude]

Articles have pointed to July 15 being the deadline for the league to do something

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It would be nice to know and get it over with. But it's better to do what they think will get them the best outcome.

 

[Covert Rain]

Roger Godell as judge, jury and executioner has been a debacle.

The NFL is a private organization. People get fired for much less. You decide to play in the NFL, the rules of conduct and the right to fire you for whatever reason comes with the territory.

I loved D-Wash the player but the person seems to be a douche. As much as it hurts to say this because I loved the player, I would still cut him loose. Dude hit a woman....he doesn't deserve the privilege of playing a game for a living.

I have two daughters and I threw away his jersey right in front of them to make sure they understand I would never support such a scumbag.

 

[oaken1]

kinda looks like they have chosen DWash to make an example of..they will stretch out reinstatement until the last minute,...then hit him with the other suspension....he will get zero work in with the team......unless,.....can they work out with the team in camp if they are suspended for the beginning of the season>??

 

[GuernseyCard]

kinda looks like they have chosen DWash to make an example of..they will stretch out reinstatement until the last minute,...then hit him with the other suspension....he will get zero work in with the team......unless,.....can they work out with the team in camp if they are suspended for the beginning of the season>??

Reinstatement allows him to join the team fully. An additional suspension does not effect this.

 

[TJ]

kinda looks like they have chosen DWash to make an example of..they will stretch out reinstatement until the last minute,...then hit him with the other suspension....he will get zero work in with the team......unless,.....can they work out with the team in camp if they are suspended for the beginning of the season>??

If he's suspended 2-6 games, he can practice and play in preseason games.

 

[LittleDavis]

The NFL is a private organization. People get fired for much less. You decide to play in the NFL, the rules of conduct and the right to fire you for whatever reason comes with the territory.

I loved D-Wash the player but the person seems to be a douche. As much as it hurts to say this because I loved the player, I would still cut him loose. Dude hit a woman....he doesn't deserve the privilege of playing a game for a living.

I have two daughters and I threw away his jersey right in front of them to make sure they understand I would never support such a scumbag.

I'm with you but I don't buy the argument that every situation is the case of an animalistic brute man beating a woman. I have never hit or laid my hands on a woman...yet, I have been scratched, punched, pushed, yelled at and still did not lay a hand...but I, in no way, believe that women are not capable of pushing someone over the line...and men are capable of doing the same. Each case is different and at the end of the day...I believe in redemption!

 

[splitsecond]

I'm with you but I don't buy the argument that every situation is the case of an animalistic brute man beating a woman. I have never hit or laid my hands on a woman...yet, I have been scratched, punched, pushed, yelled at and still did not lay a hand...but I, in no way, believe that women are not capable of pushing someone over the line...and men are capable of doing the same. Each case is different and at the end of the day...I believe in redemption!

The most un-American thing one can do in my opinion is not believe in redemption or second chances. This country was founded on them, by people who were persecuted and written off.

Look, I don't condone domestic violence in any way shape or form, but your description is accurate to a t. I worked as an appointed attorney in domestic violence cases for a couple of years and you couldn't describe what I saw more perfectly. Some cases were clear, open and shut one person was an abuser and one was a victim, others it was mutual, still others one person pushed every button the point of reaction of the other.

 

[cardncubfan]

I'm with you but I don't buy the argument that every situation is the case of an animalistic brute man beating a woman. I have never hit or laid my hands on a woman...yet, I have been scratched, punched, pushed, yelled at and still did not lay a hand...but I, in no way, believe that women are not capable of pushing someone over the line...and men are capable of doing the same. Each case is different and at the end of the day...I believe in redemption!

The most un-American thing one can do in my opinion is not believe in redemption or second chances. This country was founded on them, by people who were persecuted and written off.

Look, I don't condone domestic violence in any way shape or form, but your description is accurate to a t. I worked as an appointed attorney in domestic violence cases for a couple of years and you couldn't describe what I saw more perfectly. Some cases were clear, open and shut one person was an abuser and one was a victim, others it was mutual, still others one person pushed every button the point of reaction of the other.

Well said & agree.

 

[BigRedRage]

Well said & agree.

+5

 

[Brian in Mesa]

The most un-American thing one can do in my opinion is not believe in redemption or second chances. This country was founded on them, by people who were persecuted and written off.

This would be his fourth chance.

How does that old saying go? "Fool me once..."

If anyone is writing off DWash it is because he has proven himself to be an idiot multiple times in his brief football career. That's on him.

Do we hope he changes? Sure. Do we fully believe he will? Nope. He has done nothing to earn our trust.

We'll just have to wait and see.

 

[Cheesebeef]

This would be his fourth chance.

How does that old saying go? "Fool me once..."

If anyone is writing off DWash it is because he has proven himself to be an idiot multiple times in his brief football career. That's on him.

Do we hope he changes? Sure. Do we fully believe he will? Nope. He has done nothing to earn our trust.

We'll just have to wait and see.

was going to post the same thing, but I've posted the same thing enough at this point.

 

[Covert Rain]

I'm with you but I don't buy the argument that every situation is the case of an animalistic brute man beating a woman. I have never hit or laid my hands on a woman...yet, I have been scratched, punched, pushed, yelled at and still did not lay a hand...but I, in no way, believe that women are not capable of pushing someone over the line...and men are capable of doing the same. Each case is different and at the end of the day...I believe in redemption!

Fine believe in redemption after one offense...but 4? Dude has had enough shots at redemption. Besides, getting redemption in your personal life is one thing...getting multiple chances to play a game which is a privilege is something else entirely.

Regardless of what the Cards do I will never support this guy ever again. I spent a ton on an authentic jersey of his and I didn't even think twice about throwing it in the garbage for my girls. I would do it again.

 

[GuernseyCard]

Fine believe in redemption after one offense...but 4? Dude has had enough shots at redemption. Besides, getting redemption in your personal life is one thing...getting multiple chances to play a game which is a privilege is something else entirely.

Regardless of what the Cards do I will never support this guy ever again. I spent a ton on an authentic jersey of his and I didn't even think twice about throwing it in the garbage for my girls. I would do it again.

Let's not confuse and group together a weed habit and a DV case. He's done his time for both from what we can gather and, frankly, the only people he has to convince and needs support from are the League and Cards HQ, plus the guys in the dressing room. It's evident that the Cards writ large aren't going to be an issue.

 

[iRobot]

He had one domestic violence, it's reported as two counts of assault because according to the story it was hands on her neck and then pushing her to the ground.

The weed shouldnt even be a factor in redemption.. its gaining ground as a legal movement now and really shouldn't be looked at with the stigma that was given to it long ago by companies paying legislators to enact laws against the marijuana industry that threatened to put other major companies out of business.

If he has made amends for his crimes, paid his dues, and made every attempt to get better... and is better. How can you not at least acknowledge that? It's the whole purpose of the system we're in is to rehabilitate offenders.

People make mistakes.. they either learn from those mistakes or don't. If they don't... they end up in prison, back in prison, or dead.

If he never lays hands on another person for the rest of his life, then maybe some of you could say he deserved the second chance. But man, that's a long time to go about proving it. I'd hate to be any of your friends (generalized) if I was to ever make a mistake.

 

[Covert Rain]

Let's not confuse and group together a weed habit and a DV case. He's done his time for both from what we can gather and, frankly, the only people he has to convince and needs support from are the League and Cards HQ, plus the guys in the dressing room. It's evident that the Cards writ large aren't going to be an issue.

Why not? I am grouping together team and legal issues. The act of breaking the law or league rules repeatedly IS the issue. The fact he put his hands on a woman is the disgusting icing on the cake.

He had one domestic violence, it's reported as two counts of assault because according to the story it was hands on her neck and then pushing her to the ground.

The weed shouldnt even be a factor in redemption.. its gaining ground as a legal movement now and really shouldn't be looked at with the stigma that was given to it long ago by companies paying legislators to enact laws against the marijuana industry that threatened to put other major companies out of business.

If he has made amends for his crimes, paid his dues, and made every attempt to get better... and is better. How can you not at least acknowledge that? It's the whole purpose of the system we're in is to rehabilitate offenders.

People make mistakes.. they either learn from those mistakes or don't. If they don't... they end up in prison, back in prison, or dead.

If he never lays hands on another person for the rest of his life, then maybe some of you could say he deserved the second chance. But man, that's a long time to go about proving it. I'd hate to be any of your friends (generalized) if I was to ever make a mistake.

The fact that weed might someday become legal is inconsequential. He still broke the rules multiple times. People make mistakes but not everyone keeps making similar mistakes. In terms of putting his hands on a woman? There is no excuse.

Also, in term of my friends, I have no problems with them making mistakes but none of them make the same mistakes over and over. They seem to have a general ability to learn from them as I think most people do. I actually had a friend that laid a hand on his fiance and we no longer talk. He was a long time friend and I have no problem with no longer being friends. There are some lines I am not willing to cross. I have plenty of other friends that would never stoop so low. He hurt her bad enough and went to jail. Yes, he served his time but I don't care if he never hurt a fly the rest of his life. It would never make up for what he did to her.

My friendships are important to me. Those relationships and how my daughters see them are important to me. Being able to look them in the eye and say it's not OK is important to me. However, I have to back it up. I have to show them it's unacceptable. Not "worshiping" a player who does it or have friends that do that kind of thing says more than a thousand words ever could.

 

[BigRedRage]

He had one domestic violence, it's reported as two counts of assault because according to the story it was hands on her neck and then pushing her to the ground.

The weed shouldnt even be a factor in redemption.. its gaining ground as a legal movement now and really shouldn't be looked at with the stigma that was given to it long ago by companies paying legislators to enact laws against the marijuana industry that threatened to put other major companies out of business.

If he has made amends for his crimes, paid his dues, and made every attempt to get better... and is better. How can you not at least acknowledge that? It's the whole purpose of the system we're in is to rehabilitate offenders.

People make mistakes.. they either learn from those mistakes or don't. If they don't... they end up in prison, back in prison, or dead.

If he never lays hands on another person for the rest of his life, then maybe some of you could say he deserved the second chance. But man, that's a long time to go about proving it. I'd hate to be any of your friends (generalized) if I was to ever make a mistake.

I agree. Smoking weed in the NFL is boneheaded but not something to hate the guy for. The DV issue is a real problem, not the weed and from what we have seen since then, he seems to have righted the ship. If he has his head on straight, I will welcome him back with open arms.

 

[kerouac9]

I'm not mad at Wasngton for smoking weed. I'm mad at him because he put his short-term interested ahead of the team three times--including in consecutive seasons. That combined with the domestic violence is unforgivable in a teammate--and I'm someone who believes that talent tops almost everything else.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I'm not mad at Wasngton for smoking weed. I'm mad at him because he put his short-term interested ahead of the team three times--including in consecutive seasons. That combined with the domestic violence is unforgivable in a teammate--and I'm someone who believes that talent tops almost everything else.

this is where I'm at. He put himself ahead of the team multiple times, hurt them in both seasons and beat up a woman... while already facing a suspension. If this guy was on any other team, the overwhelming majority of you espousing the "second chance" theory would be railing that he should be out of the league.