Kyler Murray Debate Thread

Dback Jon

Killer Snail
Moderator
Supporting Member
Joined
May 14, 2002
Posts
81,380
Reaction score
41,029
Location
Scottsdale
The irrational Kyler boosters aren’t going to like this, but this is sub-Cousins performance. Kirk failed to surpass 4000 yards in a season where he started at least 15 games one time in the past nine seasons.
I will take your irrational anti-Kyler and raise you with a three-game win streak.
 

Chopper0080

2021 - Prove It
Joined
May 15, 2002
Posts
28,206
Reaction score
40,006
Location
Colorado
I will take your irrational anti-Kyler and raise you with a three-game win streak.
The fact that Kyler is 23rd in the NFL in pass yards per game at 199.1 AND that this team has figured out a way to win games despite that, are both truths. And that is ok. It has been long discussed on this board how the Cardinals needed to build a roster that could win games without requiring Kyler to be amazing. We are kinda in that place. There will be times where the team needs Kyler to save the day, and we will see if he can do it when that time comes. (EDIT: like he did in the Miami game)
 
Last edited:

DVontel

ASFN Icon
Joined
Jan 28, 2015
Posts
12,990
Reaction score
23,088
The fact that Kyler is 23rd in the NFL in pass yards per game at 199.1 AND that this team has figured out a way to win games despite that, are both truths. And that is ok. It has been long discussed on this board how the Cardinals needed to build a roster that could win games without requiring Kyler to be amazing. We are kinda in that place. There will be times where the team needs Kyler to save the day, and we will see if he can do it when that time comes.
I mean, he just did it vs Miami, but I hear you.
 

Cheesebeef

ASFN IDOL
Supporting Member
Joined
Jan 2, 2003
Posts
91,185
Reaction score
68,064
yes, kinda

Cousins doesnt get you 600 yards rushing
But he does get you 4500 yards passing and the same TD production.

Their stats all in pretty much equate to the equal production in total yards and TDs.
 
Last edited:

SoonerLou

ASFN Addict
Joined
Sep 15, 2019
Posts
8,114
Reaction score
12,173
Location
St Louis, MO
The irrational Kyler boosters aren’t going to like this, but this is sub-Cousins performance. Kirk failed to surpass 4000 yards in a season where he started at least 15 games one time in the past nine seasons.

But he does get you 4500 yards passing.

Their stats all equate to the same production.

Irony being Kirk Cousins non 4000 yard season/lowest YPG is when Kevin Stefanski was his OC and Drew Petzing was the main WRs coach.


Highest passer rating TBF though.
 
OP
OP
Chris_Sanders

Chris_Sanders

Not Always The Best Moderator
Super Moderator
Moderator
Supporting Member
Joined
Sep 14, 2002
Posts
39,917
Reaction score
31,012
Location
Scottsdale, Az
I am sure stats will follow to support this hilarious take but I got nothing for it. .

Yup Kyler is Derek Carr

I still can't it's so hilarious
 

BritCard

ASFN Icon
Joined
Jan 10, 2020
Posts
22,334
Reaction score
40,572
Location
UK
I am sure stats will follow to support this hilarious take but I got nothing for it. .

Yup Kyler is Derek Carr

I still can't it's so hilarious

Y'all probably thinking of current Derek Carr and not same age as Kyler Derek Carr. He's not far wrong. Several sub 4000 yard seasons, low to mid 20 TD seasons (except Carr had a 32 in his 2nd year), similar YPA, similar INT ratios. Similar yards per game. And 3 Pro Bowls by 26.
 

BritCard

ASFN Icon
Joined
Jan 10, 2020
Posts
22,334
Reaction score
40,572
Location
UK
I don't think Kyler missed seeing Trey here as the coverage said. He's waving his arms around and Kyler looks at him twice.

Think it's just a bad throw. Kyler tries to loft it into the back of the EZ and just over cooks it.

xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media
 
Last edited:

QuebecCard

ASFN Addict
Joined
Mar 12, 2021
Posts
5,811
Reaction score
8,238
Location
North of the 49th.
He did, the problem is we also needed it against the Bills, Lions, Commanders and Packers where he averaged 181 yards per game. Can't just memory hole the bad ones and remember the good ones.

There are two parts to this: throw and catch, and the latter would have made a difference against both the Bills and Lions.
 
Last edited:

Ouchie-Z-Clown

I'm better than Mulli!
Joined
Sep 16, 2002
Posts
63,278
Reaction score
57,479
Location
SoCal
I agree. Just a bad throw.
Even if he great underthrows it mcbride is so open he can likely come back to it and TD. Kyler throws it where there’s zero chance for the most open player on the field all day to catch it.
 

football karma

Michael snuggles the cap space
Joined
Jul 22, 2002
Posts
15,202
Reaction score
14,132
I don't think Kyler missed seeing Trey here as the coverage said. He's waving his arms around and Kyler looks at him twice.

Think it's just a bad throw. Kyler tries to loft it into the back of the EZ and just over cooks it.

xc_hide_links_from_guests_guests_error_hide_media
im not a Kyler hater, but that is just a confounding miss

Kyler is typically pretty good on throwing to the first read when its there

and right off the snap, its there. Hit the back foot ( 03 sec mark in the vid) and throw it to the outside and its a TD. The rush would never come into play.
 
Last edited:
Top