Kyler Murray entering Draft

[Shane]

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Yea he won’t be the first off the board

 

[Dr. Jones]

Mayfield isn`t 5`10 is he? Murray will be a coach killer in the NFl.Some team will buy the hype and then watch him have a Flutie-like career at best.

I quoted the post (Your post) I was referring to. This deflective response was the answer to some question.... somewhere on some page of this thread. But had nothing to do with what you said..... and then I responded to.

 

[Ronin]

Watch Kyler Murray Awkwardly Duck NFL or MLB Questions on 'Dan Patrick Show'

https://bleacherreport.com/articles...duck-nfl-or-mlb-questions-on-dan-patrick-show

 

[TJ]

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[GuernseyCard]

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[Krangodnzr]

I listened to Zierlein talk about Murray the other day on Doug and Wolf and he said that Murray is going to go really high. He said Murray should be in consideration for the Cardinals pick.

His explanation for why the Cardinals should take Allen over Bosa makes a ton of sense. Allen is more explosive, a better fit, and has less injury concerns.

 

[Praxis]

I listened to Zierlein talk about Murray the other day on Doug and Wolf and he said that Murray is going to go really high. He said Murray should be in consideration for the Cardinals pick.

His explanation for why the Cardinals should take Allen over Bosa makes a ton of sense. Allen is more explosive, a better fit, and has less injury concerns.

Good listen. http://arizonasports.com/category/p...4efc-8881-a9e601112b6a&sid=1004&n=Doug+&+Wolf

 

[Passepartout]

Never heard of him until Heisman but then saw him and thought he had a co*ky attitude. Hope he will mature. Only time will tell if he will or not. As well as be a player.

 

[DVontel]

I listened to Zierlein talk about Murray the other day on Doug and Wolf and he said that Murray is going to go really high. He said Murray should be in consideration for the Cardinals pick.

His explanation for why the Cardinals should take Allen over Bosa makes a ton of sense. Allen is more explosive, a better fit, and has less injury concerns.

Lol, man if Keim really takes Allen over Bosa....

 

[Krangodnzr]

Lol, man if Keim really takes Allen over Bosa....

It's really not that farfetched.

Allen has been more productive and injury free. I would bet Allen is going to be a really good player. Bosa has a bit more injury bust factor. After Wadsworth, that scares me.

 

[DVontel]

It's really not that farfetched.

Allen has been more productive and injury free. I would bet Allen is going to be a really good player. Bosa has a bit more injury bust factor. After Wadsworth, that scares me.

I’m not fond of pass-rushers who just mainly rely on speed without actual counter moves & good hand usage. Otherwise, you just get Vic Beasley.

 

[Dr. Jones]

I’m not fond of pass-rushers who just mainly rely on speed without actual counter moves & good hand usage. Otherwise, you just get Vic Beasley.

Or Vonn Miller.

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[Solar7]

I've identified what's probably going to be my draft pet peeve this year, where I get the most vocal, and it's going to be people who want to outsmart everyone and pass on Bosa.

@DVontel and I don't always agree on things, but this is our bonding moment. Take the unanimous pick, and let the rest of the draft fall where it may.

 

[DVontel]

Or Vonn Miller.

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I think you missed the “actual counter moves & good hand usage” part.

 

[DVontel]

I've identified what's probably going to be my draft pet peeve this year, where I get the most vocal, and it's going to be people who want to outsmart everyone and pass on Bosa.

@DVontel and I don't always agree on things, but this is our bonding moment. Take the unanimous pick, and let the rest of the draft fall where it may.

Then we see Bosa go to divisional rival SF & tear it up in the league while sending our OTs & Rosen to hell & back. Would be hilarious.

 

[Dr. Jones]

I think you missed the “actual counter moves & good hand usage” part.

When he came out..... All he had was a world class first step. I missed nothing.

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[RON_IN_OC]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nfl-draft-prospect-kyler-murrays-233739125.html

 

[Zeno]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nfl-draft-prospect-kyler-murrays-233739125.html

I didn’t realize the kid was an ass too.

 

[DVontel]

When he came out..... All he had was a world class first step. I missed nothing.

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When he came out.....He was already polished with his counter moves & hand usage. You obviously missed everything, guy.

 

[Dr. Jones]

When he came out.....He was already polished with his counter moves & hand usage. You obviously missed everything, guy.

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/von-miller?id=2495202

STRENGTHS
Miller has prototypical size and can flat out run. Explosive first step and closing burst makes him a terror as an edge rusher. Reads quickly, fills fast and delivers violent shots in the running game. Sound tackler that breaks down the ball carrier in the open field and consistently wraps. Hard working kid that shows a relentless motor.
WEAKNESSES
Does not have a thick lower half and at times will struggle to disengage from bigger offensive tackles in the running game. Takes poor angles at times in run support. Lacks the experience in man coverage and will not be able to cover more athletic tight ends.

I did find one article referencing hand usage. That he was quick with his footwork and handwork. That's it.

However they all mention his explosion and speed. Again.... guy...... I missed nothing.

 

[TJ]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/nfl-draft-prospect-kyler-murrays-233739125.html

Murray handled that about as poorly as possible. For starters, he should be better prepared for the baseball v. football questions because he’s going to be peppered with them until the draft. Second, that interview doesn’t give me confidence that he’s fully committed to football. The threat to go play baseball is real and should worry teams. IThe Cardinals should never have considered him in the first round , but definitely not now.

 

[DVontel]

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/von-miller?id=2495202



I did find one article referencing hand usage. That he was quick with his footwork and handwork. That's it.

However they all mention his explosion and speed. Again.... guy...... I missed nothing.

Yea, no mention of lacking hand-usage & being unpolished. You probably didn’t even watch Von at A&M so you just imply Allen’s ceiling is Von because speed. Only knack on Von coming out was his frame & run D at times. And the obvious, you continue to miss everything guy.

 

[Dr. Jones]

Yea, no mention of lacking hand-usage & being unpolished. You probably didn’t even watch Von at A&M so you just imply Allen’s ceiling is Von because speed. Only knack on Von coming out was his frame & run D at times. And the obvious, you continue to miss everything guy.

You went from polished at using his hands to "not mentioning its bad must mean its good!"

Child please. I see your deflection from here.

I saw plenty... Will see plenty.... And will continue to see plenty.
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[DVontel]

You went from polished at using his hands to "not mentioning its bad must mean its good!"

Child please. I see your deflection from here.

I saw plenty... Will see plenty.... And will continue to see plenty.
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What deflection? Jesus Christ, son, can you read?

You just said the only traits he was talked up about was his first step & speed.

You search for sources that doesn’t include anything about lacking hands/polishment/counter(you can find all of these things about Josh Allen). Of course, you couldn’t find anything that says such a thing so you end up wrong & try to pin-point me as deflecting.

Hilarious.

You need to go see badminton or something cause football isn’t the one for you.

 

[Dr. Jones]

What deflection? Jesus Christ, son, can you read?

You just said the only traits he was talked up about was his first step & speed.

You search for sources that doesn’t include anything about lacking hands/polishment/counter(you can find all of these things about Josh Allen). Of course, you couldn’t find anything that says such a thing so you end up wrong & try to pin-point me as deflecting.

Hilarious.

You need to go see badminton or something cause football isn’t the one for you.

Hahaha.... Keep proving my point. I'll just sit back and watch you squirm.

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