Minnesota Fan Source Reports KG in talks with Suns

[Cheesebeef]

This 15-year-old kid is having the time of his life. Convincing the world that Garnett is about to be traded is even more enticing than his old stack of Playboys.

my thoughts exactly and do you know why? the alternative is just too unbelievably horrible to be true. then again, seeing as the way the playoffs and lotto went... ugh.

 

[slinslin]

He might have been legit, but it's obvious he is trying to fill the blanks with his own theories now..

That summary is hilarious..

 

[SunsTzu]

Besides, who else would the Suns include to make salaries work out?

Either KT or Diaw or a combination of Bell/Barbosa/Banks. So basically crippling the depth to change Amare into KG.

 

[Gaddabout]

Either KT or Diaw or a combination of Bell/Barbosa/Banks. So basically crippling the depth to change Amare into KG.

Exactly, and the Suns are in no better financial shape at the end of this deal than they were before it. They'll have nearly 50 million a year wrapped up in three players. This does not sound like a deal Sarver would sign off on.

 

[arwillan]

id much prefer not to turn amare into kg, but whatever it takes to win a championship NOW is what the suns need imo. marion and barbosa plus a couple picks is hopefully suficient to get him, but im not sure

 

[SunsTzu]

id much prefer not to turn amare into kg, but whatever it takes to win a championship NOW is what the suns need imo. marion and barbosa plus a couple picks is hopefully suficient to get him, but im not sure

But trading Amare and the salary filler doesn't get the Suns closer to a title. It just weakens them in the long run.

 

[Cheesebeef]

id much prefer not to turn amare into kg, but whatever it takes to win a championship NOW is what the suns need imo.

but amare into KG doesn't do anything to make us that much better than this year, when we might have been able to win the chip. In my opinion, it actually lessens the chance.

I know people don't like to believe this and like to believe that DA's balance system works, because it's pretty and there's a great flow to the game, but come playoff time, EVERY CHAMPION (sans the fluke Detroit 2004 team), has had at least ONE DOMINANT SCORER THAT NO ONE CAN STOP. That's Amare. And that's ALL we have on this team as far as that's concerned. KG can't do that for us - it's the reason he never got to the Finals that one year when he DID actually have a buttload of talent around him (and the number one seed and he was 3 years younger) and it's the reason his 50 win teams CONSISTENTLY got their asses kicked out of the playoffs in the first round every other year he actually got to the playoffs.

 

[wsupkid]

I will literally run around the neighborhood naked if we get Garnett.

ALL I got to say is " Is Chan Mike a man of his word "?

 

[azirish]

Either KT or Diaw or a combination of Bell/Barbosa/Banks. So basically crippling the depth to change Amare into KG.

The logic of any deal is simple.

Trading Amare would be a disaster. The Suns do not have enough bad contracts to fill in the $8.7 million deal, so it would need means trading KT or Nash. It is absurd.

The Sun can afford to give up Marion and KT (plus picks) for KG without the slightest fear. It gets complicated if the deal has to include other teams (due to questions about Marion), but that's the best case scenrio.

I am not convinced the Suns can afford to give up Barbosa, Bell, or Diaw in that scenerio without suffering on the court. To give up three top rotation guys for one player would leave the Suns with only six rotation guys and no draft picks. Considering that one of the remaining guys is Jones who is very limited and Diaw who is coming off a very disappointing season, giving up Barbosa or Bell could prove fatal on a team without enough real depth already.

The problem is that most Suns fans rightly suspect that Marion, KT, and picks are not enough, but giving up Bell or Barbosa would be too much to survive.

 

[arwillan]

The logic of any deal is simple.

Trading Amare would be a disaster. The Suns do not have enough bad contracts to fill in the $8.7 million deal, so it would need means trading KT or Nash. It is absurd.

The Sun can afford to give up Marion and KT (plus picks) for KG without the slightest fear. It gets complicated if the deal has to include other teams (due to questions about Marion), but that's the best case scenrio.

I am not convinced the Suns can afford to give up Barbosa, Bell, or Diaw in that scenerio without suffering on the court. To give up three top rotation guys for one player would leave the Suns with only six rotation guys and no draft picks. Considering that one of the remaining guys is Jones who is very limited and Diaw who is coming off a very disappointing season, giving up Barbosa or Bell could prove fatal on a team without enough real depth already.

The problem is that most Suns fans rightly suspect that Marion, KT, and picks are not enough, but giving up Bell or Barbosa would be too much to survive.

your points are very valid but i disagree somewhat. Marion/barbosa or KG would be ideal imo. the suns lose one rotation player which though valuable is not irreplacable, yet they obtain one of best power forwards in the game (possibly to play the game) and all that comes with him. That means the suns have to get some spark on the bench from some other guys, pike/pat burke/banks could all become usefull if they prove they can be effective. i particularly like banks chances, with banks/KG/bell on the floor, the suns have a great defensive core. throw in amare and nash and they are insane on offense. banks/Jones coming off the bench with starters
nash/bell/amare/KG/diaw is the same number the suns have now. seems like if the suns can get barbs/marion for kg it might be worth taking.

Edit: the suns would also be able to hold their draft picks, so they may find some added depth there

 

[tobiazz]

ALL I got to say is " Is Chan Mike a man of his word "?

I don't know, but I may have picked the wrong week to visit Phoenix.

 

[hsandhu]

Thank you for quoting me. Hopefully by next week this time we can get rid of that quote, if not...well I'll have plenty more nice ones for you regarding Mr. Matrix.

 

[Goldfield]

With Garnett our interier play will be so much better that IMO Banks will be alot more of an asset to us. We will not need him to score nearly as much, he can focus on D & driving to the basket.

Also we will probably add G.Hill who will help the SF spot left open. All we need is to find a Backup SG & Backup Center.

 

[cly2tw]

Would GS do Marion for Richardson, Jasivikunas and one future 1st rounder? If yes, would Boston take Richardson for #5 and Ratliff? Or Minn would do KG for Richardson, KT, Jasivi, + 3 picks? Or LB + JR - 1 pick instead of KT?

 

[YouJustGotSUNSD]

I am not privy to the goings-on of the Golden State front office and cannot speak for them.

 

[Mike Olbinski]

ALL I got to say is " Is Chan Mike a man of his word "?

I am a man of my word.

Sadly, I must have been high when i said that.

But I stand by it!

Rawr!

 

[slinslin]

Insider hiphop kid is now saying that the Suns try to get the Knicks into a 3way with Minnesota because they want to dump salary. (And we all know that if you want to make or save $$$ you trade with New York, get money, and dump all bad contracts on them).

 

[Divide Et Impera]

What the hell do the Knicks have that any team would want? Hell, the Knicks don't even want what they have! David Lee is their prize asset and Channing Frye would be 2nd if he weren't hit with injuries and softness. Crawford? Francis? Marbury? Robinson? Curry? Aren't they all long term contracts at astronomical prices?

 

[pokerface]

The problem is that most Suns fans rightly suspect that Marion, KT, and picks are not enough, but giving up Bell or Barbosa would be too much to survive.

We couldnt afford to give up Barbosa for KG?? The dude isnt even a starter....Barbosa is a tweener for bench depth and not much more. Hardly would we not be able to "survive" without him...thats absurd. Granted he's productive coming off the bench but c'mon...If he's not good enough to be a full time starter how critical can he be....especially if we have KG coming in.

 

[dodie53]

can the suns give up bell instead?

 

[devilalum]

can the suns give up bell instead?

No!

The Suns need more defense. Giving up your all NBA first teamer won't help.

 

[BC867]

The Suns need more defense. Giving up your all NBA first teamer won't help.

Absolutely. We know that, but we have a Coach who floods the floor with undersized scorers and jokes to the Press about (not enough) defense.

 

[dodie53]

give barbosa then..

 

[F-Dog]

If they give up Marion and Barbosa, how are the Suns supposed to be better? KG isn't going to play 70 minutes per game, and the Suns' budget will be completely busted.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

If they give up Marion and Barbosa, how are the Suns supposed to be better? KG isn't going to play 70 minutes per game, and the Suns' budget will be completely busted.

sign grant hill to a inexpensive contract and give him some of those mins.